Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

[ChevyChase77]

Cold said:

Flip Martian said:

How can anyone seriously question that story now? THe hospital said it was true. The tories have been found to have spread false tweets that it was a set up when it wasn't, and Matt Hancock, flying to the rescue invents a story about 1 of his staff being assaulted by Labour protestors, when again, it's since been proven nothing of the sort happened.

All of that is lies and HAS to be indefensible in any democracy, surely?!

Read their statement. They really didn't say it was true. To reach that conclusion is making a step where there isn't one.
They didn't give a reason as to why the boy was sleeping on coats, nor why the picture was taken. All they said was that there was temporarily a shortage of beds due to an influx of more urgent cases. This was a matter of hours, not days or weeks.

Mum of the boy has said he chose to sleep on the coats as he found them more comfy than sitting on the chairs.

This particular storm really has been blown out of its teacup and unfortunately more than one political party has attempted to make gain from it.

I broke my ankle when Labour were in power. I needed crutches to be able to get around and get into work. They didn't have any for me at the time. I should have laid on the hospital floor and taken a picture of me being unable to move and sent it to the Daily Mail.

[smn159]

I wonder what those on here defending Johnson would do if they were in a pub with a mate who told them that one of his kids was ill?

Steal his phone and refuse to discuss it, presumably, on the assumption that they've probably made the story up and even if it was true they should have given plenty of advance notice to allow for some remarks to be carefully scripted.

[chrispmartha]

ChevyChase77 said:

Cold said:

Flip Martian said:

How can anyone seriously question that story now? THe hospital said it was true. The tories have been found to have spread false tweets that it was a set up when it wasn't, and Matt Hancock, flying to the rescue invents a story about 1 of his staff being assaulted by Labour protestors, when again, it's since been proven nothing of the sort happened.

All of that is lies and HAS to be indefensible in any democracy, surely?!

Read their statement. They really didn't say it was true. To reach that conclusion is making a step where there isn't one.
They didn't give a reason as to why the boy was sleeping on coats, nor why the picture was taken. All they said was that there was temporarily a shortage of beds due to an influx of more urgent cases. This was a matter of hours, not days or weeks.

Mum of the boy has said he chose to sleep on the coats as he found them more comfy than sitting on the chairs.

This particular storm really has been blown out of its teacup and unfortunately more than one political party has attempted to make gain from it.

I broke my ankle when Labour were in power. I needed crutches to be able to get around and get into work. They didn't have any for me at the time. I should have laid on the hospital floor and taken a picture of me being unable to move and sent it to the Daily Mail.

Did the mother send the pic to the Mirror? Genuine question as I thought the story was picked up from the Local Paper the YEP?

[valiant]

Cupramax said:

vonuber said:

Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?

I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.

You mean Boris actually is a part time milkman and is just trying to finish his shift or is it a publicity stunt where the media were invited?

Bloody journos having the temerity to ask questions. How there they! No doubt Tory HQ is writing letters of complaint as we speak.


On a side note, I found this quite amusing,

[Evanivitch]

turbobloke said:

Evanivitch said:

Cupramax said:

vonuber said:

Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?

I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.

If that's all you have to do as a journalist to be a dhead, what title do we bestow upon BJ?

dhead journalist avoider?

How does he avoid himself? Or have we forgotten that he is a journalist himself?

[turbobloke]

Evanivitch said:

turbobloke said:

Evanivitch said:

Cupramax said:

vonuber said:

Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?

I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.

If that's all you have to do as a journalist to be a dhead, what title do we bestow upon BJ?

dhead journalist avoider?

How does he avoid himself? Or have we forgotten that he is a journalist himself?

He doesn't if he's avoiding dhead journalists he's avoiding the dhead variety, not himself.

[bitchstewie]

This is a very good read from the editor of the Yorkshire Post around the hospital story.

My paper reported the story of the boy on a hospital floor. Then online lies took over

[turbobloke]

bhstewie said:

This is a very good read from the editor of the Yorkshire Post around the hospital story.

My paper reported the story of the boy on a hospital floor. Then online lies took over

Not bad, for electioneering.

[hairykrishna]

gooner1 said:

Vanden Saab said:

Flip Martian said:

Vanden Saab said:

You seem to be making things up.... as far as I can see from the reports Matt Hancock was in a car travelling somewhere else and did not know about and had nothing to do with the claims. I am happy to be proved wrong if there is video of him 'inventing' the story...

You need video of him inventing a story that's already been debunked. Classic PH NPE...

You said he invented the story, which seems to be a lie, in a post complaining about him and others lying...hilarious...

The lies seem to have been born from the omitted fact that young Jack was originally being treated
in a bed. Why is there no photo of that I wonder.

Omitted fact? It was in the original bloody news story.

I am finding the excuses and justifications for the appalling way the Conservative PR machine reacted to this story astonishing. Do people just really just not give a st any more? Are people so fixated on 'their' team winning that they'll accept any third rate propaganda that's thrown their way?

[chrispmartha]

turbobloke said:

bhstewie said:

This is a very good read from the editor of the Yorkshire Post around the hospital story.

My paper reported the story of the boy on a hospital floor. Then online lies took over

Not bad, for electioneering.

Kind of refutes the line taken by many on here that the mother sent it straight to the Mirror though eh?

[pingu393]

smn159 said:

pingu393 said:

smn159 said:

It's not about the boy though is it. The story is of the complete mental collapse of the prime minister when asked about something not on his script. If Johnson had looked at the picture and said something like 'that looks dreadful, I don't know all the facts but will look into it', the whole thing is a non-event.

Think about it for moment - we have a Prime Minister who folds completely at the fist sign of anything outside of his carefully scripted comfort zone.

Are you concerned that a PM might only have two seconds to make a decision based on very little information, without any prior warning?

Oh come off it - how much ability does it take to show some empathy when shown a photo of a sick kid. It's hardly advanced stuff is it?

How much time do you think he should have been given to consider it? A day?

His lack of empathy is not in question, from me, anyway.

His inability to swiftly switch from what he is prepared for to a fast ball is not in question, but...

Under what circumstances do you think a PM would be expected to change tack in two seconds, without any prior warning, and make a decision that cannot be changed in the next two seconds?


It isn't a reason not to vote for him as a PM. It is a reason not to vote for him as a human being.

I'll be voting for a PM, via my local candidate.

[biggbn]

Am I getting this right? Within a few days Johnson has taken someone's phone to avoid an interview and now been spirited into a dairy refrigerator 'to be briefed' after one of his aides uttered 'oh fk' when presented with another one? Have I misread, misunderstood or misrepresented anything here? I am loving this. It is better than TV satire and I am living through it, a tangible representation of our collective consciousness manifested in a collection of cross party political comedians who are so funny you can't actually laugh. Vote none of the above. Everybody. These people, regardless of their party, think you, their EMPLOYERS, are stupid and are treating you with arrogant disdain. Vote none of the above.

Edited by biggbn on Wednesday 11th December 14:24

[turbobloke]

"complete mental collapse of the prime minister"

[bitchstewie]

turbobloke said:

bhstewie said:

This is a very good read from the editor of the Yorkshire Post around the hospital story.

My paper reported the story of the boy on a hospital floor. Then online lies took over

Not bad, for electioneering.

When you have people on here who still don't seem to be aware of what actually happened I think it's useful.

[chrispmartha]

bhstewie said:

turbobloke said:

bhstewie said:

This is a very good read from the editor of the Yorkshire Post around the hospital story.

My paper reported the story of the boy on a hospital floor. Then online lies took over

Not bad, for electioneering.

When you have people on here who still don't seem to be aware of what actually happened I think it's useful.

They’re not interested, they want to blame the mother to shift the focus away from their ‘side’ and how it may look bad for them.

[turbobloke]

bhstewie said:

turbobloke said:

bhstewie said:

This is a very good read from the editor of the Yorkshire Post around the hospital story.

My paper reported the story of the boy on a hospital floor. Then online lies took over

Not bad, for electioneering.

When you have people on here who still don't seem to be aware of what actually happened I think it's useful.

Where did I say otherwise?

As some people may still be considering voting Labour, this may be useful - offered as similarly informative electioneering.

Edited by turbobloke on Wednesday 11th December 14:13

[mikal83]

smn159 said:

Cupramax said:

vonuber said:

Is Boris' negotiating tactic with the EU going to be hide until it hopefully goes away?

I’m guessing dhead journos door stopping you endlessly loses its charm eventually.

You mean journos who want to ask you about your policies on the eve of a GE?

They dont know already?

[chrispmartha]

turbobloke said:

"complete mental collapse of the prime minister"

Is that a new meme you’ve added to your large collection, not seen it before!

[turbobloke]

chrispmartha said:

turbobloke said:

"complete mental collapse of the prime minister"

Is that a new meme you’ve added to your large collection, not seen it before!

No, it's an image not a meme and now you've seen it, congratulations!

[smn159]

turbobloke said:

"complete mental collapse of the prime minister"

How would you describe his ineptitude?