Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

[smn159]

Ex MP's you say?

Where's the one with the Ex Tory Prime Minister and Cabinet Ministers who don't think that Johnson is fit to be PM?

It's Johnson rather than Corbyn who is the real danger to this country. While Corbyn is promising stuff that you don't agree with, Johnson and the Tories are actively trying to undermine the democratic process, accountability and have taken bare faced lying to a new level.

[mikal83]

kuro68k said:

P5BNij said:

Ok I'll bite, I know I shouldn't but - which bullst about Labour...?

That it will be chaos. As if Cameron, May and Boris haven't delivered chaos.

That you will be poorer, as if you didn't get poorer under Cameron, May and Boris.

That Corbyn is some kind of communist, just like every other Labour leader has been accused of being including Blair.

Pretty much everyone knows it will be chaos. Look at the 70's.
I will be poorer.
He is a commie. He isnt a Blair.

Now whats your argument?

Edited by mikal83 on Wednesday 11th December 17:21

[Bill]

turbobloke said:

Inept is your view and you're entitled to it. In my view a rash response would open the door to a charge of ineptitude, and that door remained shut via a clumsy sidestep.

Clumsy sidestep?? He took the journalist's phone! What would he need to do for you to consider it rash??

[deadslow]

mikal83 said:

Pretty much every knows it will be chaos. Look at the 70's.

better still, look at the last three years. A fking shambles.

[98elise]

robemcdonald said:

98elise said:

kuro68k said:

98elise said:

Boris could have looked at the picture and said "I don't give a st"....and I would still vote for him rather than Corby, McDonnell etc

That's the problem really, too many people who believe all the BS about Labour and too many people who just want a kamikaze brexit no matter what.

I believe the things Corbyn and McDonnell say and do. If it's bullst, you need to take it up with them.

Also I'm ex-forces so don't have much love for terrorist sympathisers.

Thank you for your service.

How would you have felt if it had been your child in the picture and Boris had acted as you describe?

I don't need thanks, I chose to do it. What I need is for people not to vote in somone who supports the terrorist organisation that murdered my colleagues. That same person wants to expropriate the assets I've put my life savings into. He can fk right off.

Not sure what your point is about the photo, did you miss the emoticon? I've been in A&E with my young daughter, and waited hours for any medical attention. A couple of years ago I watched my father in law die in A&E. At no point did I think about taking a photo for instagram/social media/the press.

[vonuber]

Given Boris' handling of the garden bridge I have complete faith in his ability with public money.

[turbobloke]

vonuber said:

Given Boris' handling of the garden bridge I have complete faith in his ability with public money.

Garden bridge? Floating duck house or moat clearance - no problem. They can go on publicly funded expenses.

[robemcdonald]

98elise said:

robemcdonald said:

98elise said:

kuro68k said:

98elise said:

Boris could have looked at the picture and said "I don't give a st"....and I would still vote for him rather than Corby, McDonnell etc

That's the problem really, too many people who believe all the BS about Labour and too many people who just want a kamikaze brexit no matter what.

I believe the things Corbyn and McDonnell say and do. If it's bullst, you need to take it up with them.

Also I'm ex-forces so don't have much love for terrorist sympathisers.

Thank you for your service.

How would you have felt if it had been your child in the picture and Boris had acted as you describe?

I don't need thanks, I chose to do it. What I need is for people not to vote in somone who supports the terrorist organisation that murdered my colleagues. That same person wants to expropriate the assets I've put my life savings into. He can fk right off.

Not sure what your point is about the photo, did you miss the emoticon? I've been in A&E with my young daughter, and waited hours for any medical attention. A couple of years ago I watched my father in law die in A&E. At no point did I think about taking a photo for instagram/social media/the press.

You will know that the British Government were conducting secret (at the time) peace talks with the IRA at the same time as Jeremy Corbyn. The majority of conflicts are resolved in this way eventually.

You missed my point about the photo. You said “Boris could say he couldn’t give a st and you’d still vote for him”

So you didn’t take a photo, but if you met Boris you might say that your fil died in A&E. if he then said he couldn’t give a st would you still vote for him.

I’m sorry that is a very clumsily written paragraph.

[anonymous-user]

smn159 said:

While Corbyn is promising stuff that you don't agree with, Johnson and the Tories are actively trying to undermine the democratic process, accountability and have taken bare faced lying to a new level.

Indeed, Johnson has been ruthlessly trying to honour the referendum, then frustrated, so used his evil powers to demand an election for the public to vote again, and was frustrated, and is now trying to be elected on a ticket of doing what the public asked for in that election.

The ones trying to avoid being democratic are those who have used every trick, every turn, every opportunity to obfusticate, misinform and frustrate the will of the people.

I think Boris is a flawed character and will make a poor prime minister in ordinary times. His relationship with honesty seems irrationally strained at times, however the very one thing you can't level at him is that he has been undemocratic. Quite the opposite.

[Brave Fart]

janesmith1950 said:

I think Boris is a flawed character and will make a poor prime minister in ordinary times. His relationship with honesty seems irrationally strained at times, however the very one thing you can't level at him is that he has been undemocratic. Quite the opposite.

A very good post, snipped for brevity. However, I predict that our Labour bots will respond with "but he prorogued Parliament, he lied to Her Maj, like he lies to everyone!"

But to portray Boris as the guy who's to blame for not delivering Brexit is bonkers. The Labour voters of the north of England know it, and will, I hope, make Labour suffer for it tomorrow.

[98elise]

robemcdonald said:

98elise said:

robemcdonald said:

98elise said:

kuro68k said:

98elise said:

Boris could have looked at the picture and said "I don't give a st"....and I would still vote for him rather than Corby, McDonnell etc

That's the problem really, too many people who believe all the BS about Labour and too many people who just want a kamikaze brexit no matter what.

I believe the things Corbyn and McDonnell say and do. If it's bullst, you need to take it up with them.

Also I'm ex-forces so don't have much love for terrorist sympathisers.

Thank you for your service.

How would you have felt if it had been your child in the picture and Boris had acted as you describe?

I don't need thanks, I chose to do it. What I need is for people not to vote in somone who supports the terrorist organisation that murdered my colleagues. That same person wants to expropriate the assets I've put my life savings into. He can fk right off.

Not sure what your point is about the photo, did you miss the emoticon? I've been in A&E with my young daughter, and waited hours for any medical attention. A couple of years ago I watched my father in law die in A&E. At no point did I think about taking a photo for instagram/social media/the press.

You will know that the British Government were conducting secret (at the time) peace talks with the IRA at the same time as Jeremy Corbyn. The majority of conflicts are resolved in this way eventually.

You missed my point about the photo. You said “Boris could say he couldn’t give a st and you’d still vote for him”

So you didn’t take a photo, but if you met Boris you might say that your fil died in A&E. if he then said he couldn’t give a st would you still vote for him.

I’m sorry that is a very clumsily written paragraph.

It wasn't meant to be a serious scenario, that should be obvious!

The point was that what ever Boris ACTUALLY does it will make no difference to how I vote because the other option doesn't bear thinking about.

Corbyn was not negotiating with terrorists, he had no mandate to either. He (and McDonnell) support and honour terrorists, and it's that I object to:

Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.

Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 11th December 19:14

[deadslow]

Brave Fart said:

janesmith1950 said:

I think Boris is a flawed character and will make a poor prime minister in ordinary times. His relationship with honesty seems irrationally strained at times, however the very one thing you can't level at him is that he has been undemocratic. Quite the opposite.

A very good post, snipped for brevity. However, I predict that our Labour bots will respond with "but he prorogued Parliament, he lied to Her Maj, like he lies to everyone!"

But to portray Boris as the guy who's to blame for not delivering Brexit is bonkers. The Labour voters of the north of England know it, and will, I hope, make Labour suffer for it tomorrow.

Boris would love to thank you for your support, but he's currently hiding in a fridge

[turbobloke]

deadslow said:

Brave Fart said:

janesmith1950 said:

I think Boris is a flawed character and will make a poor prime minister in ordinary times. His relationship with honesty seems irrationally strained at times, however the very one thing you can't level at him is that he has been undemocratic. Quite the opposite.

A very good post, snipped for brevity. However, I predict that our Labour bots will respond with "but he prorogued Parliament, he lied to Her Maj, like he lies to everyone!"

But to portray Boris as the guy who's to blame for not delivering Brexit is bonkers. The Labour voters of the north of England know it, and will, I hope, make Labour suffer for it tomorrow.

Boris would love to thank you for your support, but he's currently hiding in a fridge

Timewarp alert!

Next it's the 70s again

[anonymous-user]

robemcdonald said:

You will know that the British Government were conducting secret (at the time) peace talks with the IRA at the same time as Jeremy Corbyn.

Corbyn wasn't conducting peace talks. He had no role in the peace process what so ever. What he did was lend credibility to IRA terrorists with his expressions of solidarity and as a British MP his refusal to unreservedly condemn their actions. I went to primary school in Belfast in the late 70's/early 80's; as a result one of my earliest memories was of mum checking under the car whenever it was left unattended. They tried to do it subtly of course but we all knew. These are Corbyn's friends; comrades struggling against the British state; people who would have mums checking their cars for bombs at primary schools. Fvck Corbyn. I hope he gets fvcking battered tomorrow and fvcks off into an irrelevant page in history where he belongs.

[pingu393]

fblm said:

robemcdonald said:

You will know that the British Government were conducting secret (at the time) peace talks with the IRA at the same time as Jeremy Corbyn.

Corbyn wasn't conducting peace talks. He had no role in the peace process what so ever. What he did was lend credibility to IRA terrorists with his expressions of solidarity and as a British MP his refusal to unreservedly condemn their actions. I went to primary school in Belfast in the late 70's/early 80's; as a result one of my earliest memories was of mum checking under the car whenever it was left unattended. They tried to do it subtly of course but we all knew. These are Corbyn's friends; comrades struggling against the British state; people who would have mums checking their cars for bombs at primary schools. Fvck Corbyn. I hope he gets fvcking battered tomorrow and fvcks off into an irrelevant page in history where he belongs.

I had to check my car for four years. I would like Corbyn to have to check his for just one year to know what it feels like every time you turn the key.

It's a feeling you never forget.

[pingu393]

robemcdonald said:

98elise said:

robemcdonald said:

98elise said:

kuro68k said:

98elise said:

Boris could have looked at the picture and said "I don't give a st"....and I would still vote for him rather than Corby, McDonnell etc

That's the problem really, too many people who believe all the BS about Labour and too many people who just want a kamikaze brexit no matter what.

I believe the things Corbyn and McDonnell say and do. If it's bullst, you need to take it up with them.

Also I'm ex-forces so don't have much love for terrorist sympathisers.

Thank you for your service.

How would you have felt if it had been your child in the picture and Boris had acted as you describe?

I don't need thanks, I chose to do it. What I need is for people not to vote in somone who supports the terrorist organisation that murdered my colleagues. That same person wants to expropriate the assets I've put my life savings into. He can fk right off.

Not sure what your point is about the photo, did you miss the emoticon? I've been in A&E with my young daughter, and waited hours for any medical attention. A couple of years ago I watched my father in law die in A&E. At no point did I think about taking a photo for instagram/social media/the press.

You will know that the British Government were conducting secret (at the time) peace talks with the IRA at the same time as Jeremy Corbyn. The majority of conflicts are resolved in this way eventually.

You missed my point about the photo. You said “Boris could say he couldn’t give a st and you’d still vote for him”

So you didn’t take a photo, but if you met Boris you might say that your fil died in A&E. if he then said he couldn’t give a st would you still vote for him.

I’m sorry that is a very clumsily written paragraph.

You do know that McGuinness and Adams didn't trust Corbyn enough to tell him about the talks, don't you?

They saw him as a useful idiot - and they are not the only ones.

[Derek Smith]

turbobloke said:

Inept is your view and you're entitled to it. In my view a rash response would open the door to a charge of ineptitude, and that door remained shut via a clumsy sidestep.

We had a false analogy like yours earlier today, it involved EU negotiations.

Difficult stuff will arrive, but not so much live on national TV and in a highly emotive context one day or so before a general election.

That won't recur for (probably) 5 years, at which time there'll be another irrelevant performing arts competition.

It's of very limited importance in the bigger and far more high-risk picture of a prospective far-Left Labour government, as 15 ex-Labour MPs have pointed out very clearly in their political advertisement.

Just to make it clear; I'm not arguing for Corbyn. I've not posted anything for Corbyn. I will not vote for Corbyn. However, you criticising Corbyn when the post was all about Johnson's ineptitude is purely deflection.

Corbyn was flummoxed by something quite simple. He hadn't got the presence of mind to cope with something that confronted him. It would have been easy enough to do. Most other politicians would have been able to do it smoothly and precisely. His problem, and it is a major one, is that left on his own he makes glaring errors. Securing the detention of a prisoner who was about to be let out by a stupid - and I know what the word means - statement. OK, so, perhaps, thinking on your feet is not important for the leader of this country. I happen to think it is an essential.

So perhaps his longer term planning is better? His garden bridge, his absence when the vote on Heathrow was due, and so many, many more. He's no good at quick or slow thinking. That's his problem. And, as he's probably going to be our next pm, our problem as well.

It doesn't take away his ineptitude by saying someone else is worse than he is when there are a number of tory mps who'd do a much better job.

He must have been trained for door-stepping. It's simple enough. It is straightforward enough. We see it often, we see it almost daily at the moment, but not from him. That means that on top of his other lack of essential abilities he can't learn.

Inept is being kind to him, something he does not deserve.

[Alpinestars]

Derek Smith said:

Just to make it clear; I'm not arguing for Corbyn. I've not posted anything for Corbyn. I will not vote for Corbyn. However, you criticising Corbyn when the post was all about Johnson's ineptitude is purely deflection.

Corbyn was flummoxed by something quite simple. He hadn't got the presence of mind to cope with something that confronted him. It would have been easy enough to do. Most other politicians would have been able to do it smoothly and precisely. His problem, and it is a major one, is that left on his own he makes glaring errors. Securing the detention of a prisoner who was about to be let out by a stupid - and I know what the word means - statement. OK, so, perhaps, thinking on your feet is not important for the leader of this country. I happen to think it is an essential.

So perhaps his longer term planning is better? His garden bridge, his absence when the vote on Heathrow was due, and so many, many more. He's no good at quick or slow thinking. That's his problem. And, as he's probably going to be our next pm, our problem as well.

It doesn't take away his ineptitude by saying someone else is worse than he is when there are a number of tory mps who'd do a much better job.

He must have been trained for door-stepping. It's simple enough. It is straightforward enough. We see it often, we see it almost daily at the moment, but not from him. That means that on top of his other lack of essential abilities he can't learn.

Inept is being kind to him, something he does not deserve.

BJ, or Corbyn? Second para.

[robemcdonald]

robemcdonald said:

You will know that the British Government were conducting secret (at the time) peace talks with the IRA at the same time as Jeremy Corbyn. The majority of conflicts are resolved in this way eventually.

You missed my point about the photo. You said “Boris could say he couldn’t give a st and you’d still vote for him”

So you didn’t take a photo, but if you met Boris you might say that your fil died in A&E. if he then said he couldn’t give a st would you still vote for him.

I’m sorry that is a very clumsily written paragraph.

Sorry I’ve been at my daughters carol concert. I didn’t mean to suggest that Corbyn was conducting peace talks, just that the sitting government were also talking to the same people at the same time. I did say it was poorly written..

Also just for the record. I’m not a Corbyn fan, nor will the Labour Party be getting my vote. I am anti-Boris though.

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