Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)
Discussion
paulrockliffe said:
tangerine_sedge said:
the BBC has stacks of original content and could stand up a desirable service for many people.
Is this really the case? A lot of programs are simply licensed to the BBC from others rather than developed in house. It's the reason why content is only on iPlayer/Sounds for a limited time and would severely limit the BBC's ability to compete with the lies of Amazon, where I can pick up a program at any time and start from Series 1, Episode 1.I've just looked on iPlayer for Poldark as a quick example - nothing currently available as it's all out of license for online broadcast.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-stateme...
Which leads back to what Team Boris will do.
Zirconia said:
paulrockliffe said:
tangerine_sedge said:
the BBC has stacks of original content and could stand up a desirable service for many people.
Is this really the case? A lot of programs are simply licensed to the BBC from others rather than developed in house. It's the reason why content is only on iPlayer/Sounds for a limited time and would severely limit the BBC's ability to compete with the lies of Amazon, where I can pick up a program at any time and start from Series 1, Episode 1.I've just looked on iPlayer for Poldark as a quick example - nothing currently available as it's all out of license for online broadcast.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-stateme...
Which leads back to what Team Boris will do.
vonuber said:
turbobloke said:
There's no rush, the BBC's time will come.
Why are you so eager to see it removed?Or are you going for the pythonesque full half hour rather than five minutes?! Here you go.
TTwiggy said:
vonuber said:
turbobloke said:
There's no rush, the BBC's time will come.
Why are you so eager to see it removed?vonuber said:
Why are you so eager to see it removed?
For a start here's a view from inside the organisation.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4990...
vonuber said:
This obsession to destroy the BBC is frankly bizarre. It's one of the great British cultural institutions, you'd have thought Brexiters would be in the streets protesting against abolition.
Given they have been accused of bias by both Labour and the Tories, it sounds like they are working perfectly.
Quite - It is amazing how bent out of shape so many people get over £154 per household.Given they have been accused of bias by both Labour and the Tories, it sounds like they are working perfectly.
There is political bias and waste in every publicly funded organisation - Not excusing it, but beating the BBC the whole time is nitpicking.
abzmike said:
Quite - It is amazing how bent out of shape so many people get over £154 per household.
There is political bias and waste in every publicly funded organisation - Not excusing it, but beating the BBC the whole time is nitpicking.
You don't see many people complaining about the cost do you. Perhaps it's the principle that people object to?There is political bias and waste in every publicly funded organisation - Not excusing it, but beating the BBC the whole time is nitpicking.
abzmike said:
Quite - It is amazing how bent out of shape so many people get over £154 per household.
There is political bias and waste in every publicly funded organisation - Not excusing it, but beating the BBC the whole time is nitpicking.
I think there are two significant issues with the BBCThere is political bias and waste in every publicly funded organisation - Not excusing it, but beating the BBC the whole time is nitpicking.
Firstly bias in news and current affairs in what is supposed to be an impartial, publicly funded broadcaster.
Secondly the lack of 'event' TV for most. In terms of what I watch on BBC the list is rather a short one. A bit of sports, the occasional news broadcast, occasional documentary or nature programme. I get far more for my Netflix subscription and that is cheaper.
Brooking10 said:
abzmike said:
Quite - It is amazing how bent out of shape so many people get over £154 per household.
There is political bias and waste in every publicly funded organisation - Not excusing it, but beating the BBC the whole time is nitpicking.
There is political bias and waste in every publicly funded organisation - Not excusing it, but beating the BBC the whole time is nitpicking.
Truly a fool's errand.
It's not over £154 and not every public funded outfit is masquerading as an impartial state broadcaster.
False argument, fool's conclusion.
All in good time - as indicated, the BBC's day will come.
turbobloke said:
It's not over £154 and not every public funded outfit is masquerading as an impartial state broadcaster.
False argument, fool's conclusion.
All in good time - as indicated, the BBC's day will come.
If it’s not about the money - sofa change to a man of your obvious means - then one would suggest there really are more important things to get worked up about than something you can very easily choose to cut out of your life through the simple press of a button.
Brooking10 said:
But good to see you’ve backtracked on the breathless efforts of the nation’s lowest quality mid market tabloid presenting it as a near fair accompli
If it’s not about the money - sofa change to a man of your obvious means - then one would suggest there really are more important things to get worked up about than something you can very easily choose to cut out of your life through the simple press of a button.
Turbobloke by his own admission says he doesn’t watch or listen to anything on the BBC so I’m not sure how he’s so sure it’s biased, I seem to remember he did say he once caught a bit of the new in a hotel reception or something.If it’s not about the money - sofa change to a man of your obvious means - then one would suggest there really are more important things to get worked up about than something you can very easily choose to cut out of your life through the simple press of a button.
The BBC has a vast array of programmes across their channels, as it stand we have to pay a TV license rather than constantly whinging about some kind of bias and social injustice, why not find something that interests rather than moaning (that’s not aimed at you B10). There are some fabulous documentaries on BBC4 for starters. Of anyone thinks the new output is biased (and plenty on both sides do) don’t watch it.
chrispmartha said:
Turbobloke by his own admission says he doesn’t watch or listen to anything on the BBC so I’m not sure how he’s so sure it’s biased, I seem to remember he did say he once caught a bit of the new in a hotel reception or something.
The BBC has a vast array of programmes across their channels, as it stand we have to pay a TV license rather than constantly whinging about some kind of bias and social injustice, why not find something that interests rather than moaning (that’s not aimed at you B10). There are some fabulous documentaries on BBC4 for starters. Of anyone thinks the new output is biased (and plenty on both sides do) don’t watch it.
Hi there - yep I am with you. There genuinely is, IMO, something for everybody on the BBC across its many channels (I don’t mean simply TV) if people are willing to look for it.The BBC has a vast array of programmes across their channels, as it stand we have to pay a TV license rather than constantly whinging about some kind of bias and social injustice, why not find something that interests rather than moaning (that’s not aimed at you B10). There are some fabulous documentaries on BBC4 for starters. Of anyone thinks the new output is biased (and plenty on both sides do) don’t watch it.
That folk can’t separate that from 24/7 “everything for me” is a shame.
Ultimately I admit that I struggle to escape the whole “it’s £3 a week so what ?” position I hold. Many people from many walks of life are one suspects getting more than £3 of value whether they want to admit to it or not. Those that aren’t I don’t have much sympathy for, there are far bigger things to worry about.
ETA - that last sentence applies even more to Boris as it does our resident Beeb bashers. The very transparent politically motivated dog whistling isn’t a good look given the raft of genuine priorities he needs to be getting on with.
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The nature program recently have been absolutely superb and in 4k as have some recent sporting events. The message of what we are doing to the planet is probably another reason the BBC are not liked by some here.
Here is something I could agree with Boris though. Our head hand wringer AM is upset with Boris. FYI the newport relief road would probably have gone ahead with the previous head AM but Drakeford killed it. The stop on the Severn Bridge tolls has increased traffic by 16% or so and rams into the bottle neck of the tunnels. Sat in a jam there has been the norm for years.
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-12-17/mark-dra...
Here is something I could agree with Boris though. Our head hand wringer AM is upset with Boris. FYI the newport relief road would probably have gone ahead with the previous head AM but Drakeford killed it. The stop on the Severn Bridge tolls has increased traffic by 16% or so and rams into the bottle neck of the tunnels. Sat in a jam there has been the norm for years.
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-12-17/mark-dra...
Another hate of the TV licence is being held to ransom when you just want other content. Free-view its annoying but not much you can do but sky,virgin and bt BBC content can easily be switched off allowing you to watch other content. Why cant i download the 4OD app and watch without a licence.
Zirconia said:
The nature program recently have been absolutely superb and in 4k as have some recent sporting events. The message of what we are doing to the planet is probably another reason the BBC are not liked by some here.
Here is something I could agree with Boris though. Our head hand wringer AM is upset with Boris. FYI the newport relief road would probably have gone ahead with the previous head AM but Drakeford killed it. The stop on the Severn Bridge tolls has increased traffic by 16% or so and rams into the bottle neck of the tunnels. Sat in a jam there has been the norm for years.
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-12-17/mark-dra...
He doesn't want to risk any prosperity in wales especially by the Tories. Hes got to go.Here is something I could agree with Boris though. Our head hand wringer AM is upset with Boris. FYI the newport relief road would probably have gone ahead with the previous head AM but Drakeford killed it. The stop on the Severn Bridge tolls has increased traffic by 16% or so and rams into the bottle neck of the tunnels. Sat in a jam there has been the norm for years.
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-12-17/mark-dra...
Is there really any doubt that the BBC is institutionally left leaning? Seriously? Granted they've pi55ed off the Corbynites and Marxists because they aren't left enough but that doesn't mean they aren't Blairite in outlook...
The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”. All this, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”. -- Andrew Marr
...I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’. -- Peter Sissons
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/what-is-the-loneli...
Whatever. I don't watch it or pay for it but for 5 billion quid a year and 20,000+ employees you don't seem to get much!
The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”. All this, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”. -- Andrew Marr
...I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’. -- Peter Sissons
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/what-is-the-loneli...
Whatever. I don't watch it or pay for it but for 5 billion quid a year and 20,000+ employees you don't seem to get much!
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