Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

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bitchstewie

51,481 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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stevensdrs said:
People who have nothing to lose can appear on as many of these shows as they like. People with everything to lose are better advised not to.

Ask Andy?
I do take the point.

But he does himself no favours by acting like a coward who is afraid to face questions.

There's something very strange when people think it's acceptable for any "leader" to behave that way.

abzmike

8,422 posts

107 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
I do take the point.

But he does himself no favours by acting like a coward who is afraid to be face questions.

There's something very strange when people think it's acceptable for any "leader" to behave that way.
Indeed. He will be called a coward until next Friday and then he will have got away with it. It is disgraceful. This election is about forming the government of the country - BJ is treating it like a parish council election, only speaking to friendly blokes in the pub.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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abzmike said:
Indeed. He will be called a coward until next Friday and then he will have got away with it. It is disgraceful. This election is about forming the government of the country - BJ is treating it like a parish council election, only speaking to friendly blokes in the pub.
If there was an alternative that wouldn't destroy the UK economy and basic social structure, he wouldn't be able to.

The fact that he can is down to the unelectable opposition.

You need a credible alternative to create sensible politics, we dont have one. For that reason i hope the Labour party are smashed to pieces in this election and they either throw out the marxists or split and form an alternative that becomes a credible choice at the next election.

smn159

12,739 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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stevensdrs said:
People who have nothing to lose can appear on as many of these shows as they like. People with everything to lose are better advised not to.

If he feels that he can't articulate his position in a TV interview without risking looking like an idiot, how on earth is he going to fare against other world leaders? How is he going to negotiate with the EU?

No-one is going to take him seriously

What a farce.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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At last the BBC has stepped up - that take-down of liar and coward Boris Johnson was exemplary.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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smn159 said:
If he feels that he can't articulate his position in a TV interview without risking looking like an idiot, how on earth is he going to fare against other world leaders? How is he going to negotiate with the EU?

No-one is going to take him seriously

What a farce.
And yet they took him seriously enough to do what they said was impossible and reopened the WA.

98elise

26,681 posts

162 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
stevensdrs said:
People who have nothing to lose can appear on as many of these shows as they like. People with everything to lose are better advised not to.

Ask Andy?
I do take the point.

But he does himself no favours by acting like a coward who is afraid to face questions.

There's something very strange when people think it's acceptable for any "leader" to behave that way.
Corbyn had a car crash of an interview. That's entirely his fault. bhing about Boris not doing it is just sour grapes. It's nothing to do with acceptable behaviour, It's a good tactical move as he as absolutely nothing to gain.

Your outage is driven by Corbyn's dire performance. If Corbyn had done a stellar job then you wouldn't be bothered if Boris did it or not.

Personally I think presiding over anti-semitism, and celebrating terrorists is no way for a leader to behave.


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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No mainstream party leader in a GE for decades has refused an interview. The comments on Johnson's cowardice have nothing to do with the appalling anti-semitic tosspot Corbyn.

smn159

12,739 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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jsf said:
smn159 said:
If he feels that he can't articulate his position in a TV interview without risking looking like an idiot, how on earth is he going to fare against other world leaders? How is he going to negotiate with the EU?

No-one is going to take him seriously

What a farce.
And yet they took him seriously enough to do what they said was impossible and reopened the WA.
That would be the glorious deal that puts a border down the Irish Sea and that Johnson refused to open up to any Parliamentary scrutiny, right?

stevensdrs

3,212 posts

201 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
No mainstream party leader in a GE for decades has refused an interview. The comments on Johnson's cowardice have nothing to do with the appalling anti-semitic tosspot Corbyn.
Yes precedent may be important in your line of work but it has no bearing on how to win an election.

ben5575

6,296 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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jsf said:
abzmike said:
Indeed. He will be called a coward until next Friday and then he will have got away with it. It is disgraceful. This election is about forming the government of the country - BJ is treating it like a parish council election, only speaking to friendly blokes in the pub.
If there was an alternative that wouldn't destroy the UK economy and basic social structure, he wouldn't be able to.

The fact that he can is down to the unelectable opposition.

You need a credible alternative to create sensible politics, we dont have one. For that reason i hope the Labour party are smashed to pieces in this election and they either throw out the marxists or split and form an alternative that becomes a credible choice at the next election.
This times a lot.

The greatest trick the Tories ever pulled, was convincing the electorate that they haven't been in power for the past ten years and are therefore directly responsible for the mess we find ourselves in today.

The greatest failure in modern politics is that the current Opposition have been incapable of holding them to account.

Murph7355

37,767 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
No mainstream party leader in a GE for decades has refused an interview. The comments on Johnson's cowardice have nothing to do with the appalling anti-semitic tosspot Corbyn.
Genuine question - have these sort of interviews been a key thing for more than the last two elections?

I recall the absolute car crash that May did last time out...but don't really recall much even in the 2015 election. Was that the first year the stand up "debates" happened/were televised?


abzmike

8,422 posts

107 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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98elise said:
Corbyn had a car crash of an interview. That's entirely his fault. bhing about Boris not doing it is just sour grapes. It's nothing to do with acceptable behaviour, It's a good tactical move as he as absolutely nothing to gain.

Your outage is driven by Corbyn's dire performance. If Corbyn had done a stellar job then you wouldn't be bothered if Boris did it or not.

Personally I think presiding over anti-semitism, and celebrating terrorists is no way for a leader to behave.
It is not a tactical move, BJ is avoiding scrutiny, because he knows it will hurt him. He has sat back and laughed as all the other leaders were hurt, and now knows he’s got away with it. To lie to the national broadcaster is simply not on.

turbobloke

104,069 posts

261 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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stevensdrs said:
Breadvan72 said:
No mainstream party leader in a GE for decades has refused an interview.
Yes precedent may be important in your line of work but it has no bearing on how to win an election.
Accuracy may be important in that line of work also as 'debate' and 'interview' are different things. However, talking of the same thing i.e. refusals to appear, iirc Corbyn decided to duck two television debates in the wake of his disastrous interview with Andrew Neil. One for Sky News which led to an event cancellation - and was there not another where Rebecca Long-Bailey subbed at short notice? Presumably it was reaction to a naughty prawn on each occasion.

smn159

12,739 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
Look! A squirrel!
Classic

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Murph7355 said:
Breadvan72 said:
No mainstream party leader in a GE for decades has refused an interview. The comments on Johnson's cowardice have nothing to do with the appalling anti-semitic tosspot Corbyn.
Genuine question - have these sort of interviews been a key thing for more than the last two elections?

I recall the absolute car crash that May did last time out...but don't really recall much even in the 2015 election. Was that the first year the stand up "debates" happened/were televised?
2010 they began.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Murph7355 said:
Breadvan72 said:
No mainstream party leader in a GE for decades has refused an interview. The comments on Johnson's cowardice have nothing to do with the appalling anti-semitic tosspot Corbyn.
Genuine question - have these sort of interviews been a key thing for more than the last two elections?

I recall the absolute car crash that May did last time out...but don't really recall much even in the 2015 election. Was that the first year the stand up "debates" happened/were televised?
We are talking about the flagship BBC interview - this has been a thing for decades and no mainstream party leader has ever refused one. The attempts by some above to excuse Johnson are as unconvincing as any defence of Johnson ever is. To a Johnson loyalist, there is nothing that he does that cannot be denied or just shrugged off. Johnson loyalists are in this respect much like Trump supporters.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Team Boris are playing it close and not taking any chances. I believe Boris has ducked two already?
I suppose that once in the chair you don’t know which Boris will turn up. If I were advising, he should have done one early on and it would be old news now.

Wonder if he will do the same in world trade agreements and dealing with truculent world leaders?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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smn159 said:
turbobloke said:
Look! A squirrel!
Classic
I wonder does he ever tire of it? It would enliven things if he could occasionally try another routine.

turbobloke

104,069 posts

261 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
smn159 said:
turbobloke said:
Look! A squirrel!
Classic
I wonder does he ever tire of it? It would enliven things if he could occasionally try another routine.
Try this routine.

With Corbyn running scared of appearances after brillo took a shine to him, and whether or not Boris ever turns up, would anyone with Boris's / the Conservatives' interests in mind suggest Boris camps outside the studio banging on the door to be let in? The obvious point here will be obvious to Tufty - only his detractors would think it's a good idea with little risk, and crow repeatedly on the subject while common sense prevails. Which point explains the usual suspects queuing up for an ad hom metoofest with no rational argument in sight ^. Solid!
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