Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)
Discussion
El stovey said:
Just like after the brexit vote.
Funny seeing Gove (and the other automatons) having to defend Boris avoiding the scrutiny of an Andrew Neil interview.
Tactic of just not answering the questions or not even subjecting to the questions themselves is seen to be working for Trump so Tories trying the same with Johnson?Funny seeing Gove (and the other automatons) having to defend Boris avoiding the scrutiny of an Andrew Neil interview.
ChevyChase77 said:
smn159 said:
ChevyChase77 said:
Corbyn as PM and Abbott as home secretary. It's a frightening thought. Still, Diane said she could put 10,000 extra police offices on the streets for only £30,000.
Whereas Johnson will build 40 new Hospitals and recruit 50,000 nurses presumably?Abbott got tongue tied in an interview whereas Boris is deliberately lying.
If she's unwell she deserves sympathy and more time with her family and physicians.
El stovey said:
don'tbesilly said:
ChevyChase77 said:
Vanden Saab said:
ChevyChase77 said:
Corbyn has ducked out of doing an interview with LBC. It's funny all this obsession with doing all these interviews. Just get on with the job IMO.
It is just another big red bus and the same people fall for it time and time again. Rather than concentrating on things that actually matter to people they are going on and on about Boris not doing an interview. Dom must be laughing his socks off. No one is going to walk into the polling booth and think 'do you know what, I am not going to vote Conservative because Boris didn't do an interview with Andrew Neil'More to the point no one is going to vote for Corbyn or Swinson because they did.
Neil sounded like a spoilt child after the Farage interview,it was like a personal political broadcast. Mind you one could understand the upset after he failed to score many points against Farage.
don'tbesilly said:
Personally I wouldn't/couldn't care whether any of them did/do any interviews, they rarely make any difference, if they do it won't change the result once people get to the polling station,far more importantly they ALL lie.
Presumably you were always going to vote for Boris though? You’re a guaranteed conservative voter, these interviews aren’t really aimed at you.
The interviews are for floating voters and people who consider other parties and might vote vote for a different party each election.
confused_buyer said:
I don't think he can do the interview now - it will just look like he was shamed/bullied into it or whatever.
He should have just done it 2 weeks ago which, whatever had happened, would have been completely forgotten about by now anyway.
Agreed, I watched that last night and my first though was, do these two have a bit of previous, that came across as very personal, there was no way Boris would do the interview after that and Neil is plenty smart enough to know that. Came across as, you won't do the interview so I'm going to give you an on air kicking anyway.He should have just done it 2 weeks ago which, whatever had happened, would have been completely forgotten about by now anyway.
As I said it came across as very personal, I'm a big fan of AN but I don't think he got that right last night.
^^
A think Andrew Neils bit last night was very fair and bang on the button.
Edit. I think it was also just in case Team Boris tried to spin it, Mr Neil set the record straight seeing as there is a lot of interest in it. Team Boris have lied and cheated already, this perhaps carefully worded bit put the lid on it.
A think Andrew Neils bit last night was very fair and bang on the button.
Edit. I think it was also just in case Team Boris tried to spin it, Mr Neil set the record straight seeing as there is a lot of interest in it. Team Boris have lied and cheated already, this perhaps carefully worded bit put the lid on it.
Edited by Zirconia on Friday 6th December 09:32
768 said:
smn159 said:
IforB said:
At least with Corbyn I know he is going to come after things and I can prepare, whereas Johnson will just trash our economy through sheer incompetence and all of us will feel the pain that way.
Indeed - and how much damage has the whole Brexit debacle already done to our economy?And if you really think it's that bad, at least you're still free to move your money and family abroad.
IforB said:
768 said:
smn159 said:
IforB said:
At least with Corbyn I know he is going to come after things and I can prepare, whereas Johnson will just trash our economy through sheer incompetence and all of us will feel the pain that way.
Indeed - and how much damage has the whole Brexit debacle already done to our economy?And if you really think it's that bad, at least you're still free to move your money and family abroad.
This is meant to be the Boris thread but as ever with politics anywhere near the surface it's mutating into another brexit grief therapy thread faster than spit flies through the air. All hail the euseless eu.
There's also a generous helping of fantasy. Labour's legendary and unparalleled economic incompetence is legendary and unparalleled.
All is not lost. The LibDems might win on the 12th. Failing that, Swinson could find herself leading a coalition.
It may be pragmatic and tactical, but it's not a good look.Alpinestars said:
ChevyChase77 said:
How many interviews do they need to do before you have all the information? Just re-watch some of the other interviews or read the manifesto.
It’s hard to believe, but not everyone is going to read the manifesto. Some people like to be informed through interviews, and some people like certain interviewers. Most of us are sick to the back teeth of lying politicians and want someone to at least try to elicit some truth from the slippery eels. Let’s not pretend this is anything other than damage limitation for BJ.
El stovey said:
don'tbesilly said:
ChevyChase77 said:
Vanden Saab said:
ChevyChase77 said:
Corbyn has ducked out of doing an interview with LBC. It's funny all this obsession with doing all these interviews. Just get on with the job IMO.
It is just another big red bus and the same people fall for it time and time again. Rather than concentrating on things that actually matter to people they are going on and on about Boris not doing an interview. Dom must be laughing his socks off. No one is going to walk into the polling booth and think 'do you know what, I am not going to vote Conservative because Boris didn't do an interview with Andrew Neil'More to the point no one is going to vote for Corbyn or Swinson because they did.
Neil sounded like a spoilt child after the Farage interview,it was like a personal political broadcast. Mind you one could understand the upset after he failed to score many points against Farage.
El stovey said:
don'tbesilly said:
Personally I wouldn't/couldn't care whether any of them did/do any interviews, they rarely make any difference, if they do it won't change the result once people get to the polling station,far more importantly they ALL lie.
Presumably you were always going to vote for Boris though? You’re a guaranteed conservative voter, these interviews aren’t really aimed at you.
[b]The interviews are for floating voters and people who consider other parties and might vote vote for a different party each election.
I've watched the majority of the interviews and most candidates have been less than economical with the truth.
Johnson is no better than the others, but voting for him and the Tories is far from guaranteed as far as I'm concerned, if he gets the majority that seems likely Johnson will get the UK out of the EU at the end of Jan, but..............
I'll put good money on him extending the transition period by request to the EU in June, and the UK still in effect being an EU member in 2022.
IforB said:
ChevyChase77 said:
IforB said:
Vanden Saab said:
ChevyChase77 said:
Corbyn has ducked out of doing an interview with LBC. It's funny all this obsession with doing all these interviews. Just get on with the job IMO.
It is just another big red bus and the same people fall for it time and time again. Rather than concentrating on things that actually matter to people they are going on and on about Boris not doing an interview. Dom must be laughing his socks off. No one is going to walk into the polling booth and think 'do you know what, I am not going to vote Conservative because Boris didn't do an interview with Andrew Neil'More to the point no one is going to vote for Corbyn or Swinson because they did.
People voting and making decisions without having all the information is hardly something to celebrate is it.
Since the Tory manifesto was launched, Johnson has done zero interviews of note. He has not been pushed on what it contains, he has not been questioned on how they are going to do it.
He has not had to answer questions as to why people like the IFS think it is not possible to deliver.
Then there is the fact that as a manifesto, it is pretty damned light. In fact, there is naff all in it of any substance.
Again, all of this designed to deliberately provide as little information to the voting public as possible.
So I ask again, how is this in any way shape or form, a good thing for us?
Alpinestars said:
It’s hard to believe, but not everyone is going to read the manifesto. Some people like to be informed through interviews, and some people like certain interviewers. Most of us are sick to the back teeth of lying politicians and want someone to at least try to elicit some truth from the slippery eels.
Let’s not pretend this is anything other than damage limitation for BJ.
I agree. There's no doubt about it. Let’s not pretend this is anything other than damage limitation for BJ.
Whether it is a good, or productive tactic is something we might see revealed of course. It seems odd to me that someone going for the top job is frightened of being seen.
As you say, the job of the interviewer is to put those questions the public want answered. How are we going to pay for this, how many is 50,000, and how soon these hospitals on every street corner. Is avoiding them going to endear the mighty Johnson to the mob? Oddly enough, I don't think so.
They've got their lead, they are going to sit on it, just like England did against Scotland last year in a rugby match. That worked out well.
The strength of Johnson is that he is seen a cuddly, and this should garner the female vote. There is a certain backlash from his peccadilloes (I think that's the word) and the way to overcome this is not to have him squirming under questioning. Never looks good.
arfursleep said:
Tactic of just not answering the questions or not even subjecting to the questions themselves is seen to be working for Trump so Tories trying the same with Johnson?
Absolutely. Same MO. Lie, lie, lie, and when that doesn’t work, profess that you don’t know x or don’t recognise those numbers as being in your own manifesto. Eg, him not admitting the tax take will go up under him - when presented with the facts, no no, we’re cutting taxes, and I don’t recognise your numbers (from his manifesto). Mini me.
ChevyChase77 said:
Yet, he was only on TV doing an interview yesterday and is on again tonight.
You know as well as anyone that there are interviews, and there is a Brillo interview - He will not let the guest deploy thier carefully prepared soundbites, he will ask and probe for answers the others don't.Marr, Ferrari, Phil and Holly don't interview..
Gove was on LBC this morning saying Ferrari had 'subjected Boris to interrogation' - Nothing could have been further from the truth.
mikal83 said:
-Marr
-This Morning
-Dan Walker (BBC Breakfast)
-Peston
-R4 Today
-LBC
-Ridge
-ITV Head 2 Head
-BBC Head 2 Head (Tonight)
What do the above all have in common?
That they aren't Andrew Neil?-This Morning
-Dan Walker (BBC Breakfast)
-Peston
-R4 Today
-LBC
-Ridge
-ITV Head 2 Head
-BBC Head 2 Head (Tonight)
What do the above all have in common?
But he definitely isn't a coward by only agreeing to be interviewed by some good but perhaps less probing interviewers.
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