Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)
Discussion
I'm am certain Boris doing comparatively poorly in the approval ratings has very little to do with going missing for large periods of time, failing to adequately explain or implement a clear strategy, propagate and support the obvious lies from the obvious liar and tell us we should all stop talking about it.
It's probably far more likely that the EU friendly MSM have infiltrated every facet of our waking lives to unfairly paint a patently untrue picture that our dear leader is in fact a useless lying tossbag.
It's probably far more likely that the EU friendly MSM have infiltrated every facet of our waking lives to unfairly paint a patently untrue picture that our dear leader is in fact a useless lying tossbag.
bodhi said:
El stovey said:
She’s been very honest and open about care home mistakes which is possibly part of why people seem to like her handling of the crisis.
Maybe that’s due to the media giving her an easier ride? Difficult to tell really.
I think she has been better at communicating and explaining her rationale behind what’s going on and she was definitely more decisive about the sacking of her advisors road trip.
Sturgeon open and honest? Are you for real? The Nike conference in Edinburgh in February that she covered up not ring a bell? Her silence on Blackford's 600 mile drive to Skye the day after Dom went to Durham, and Blackford's subsequent drive around Skye is telling also. She wasn't even decisive in sacking her adviser who went on a roadtrip - she was made to resign. I'll assume Sturgeon is about to have a similar conversation with Blackford? Maybe that’s due to the media giving her an easier ride? Difficult to tell really.
I think she has been better at communicating and explaining her rationale behind what’s going on and she was definitely more decisive about the sacking of her advisors road trip.
Worth getting a Labour MP's view on it too - first time I've agreed with someone on that side of the house for a while:
https://youtu.be/qZWiCqWVhZQ
Especially his comment about the UK media at the end.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Ironically weren't "his" approval ratings better whilst he was ill and nowhere to be seen because he was in hospital?
That's the one that did confuse me.
Wasn’t it classic rally round the flag. in the face of a threat people looked to the leader as they are in control and have all the information. The government’s approval rating shot up at the start as did Boris’s like most leaders, then when he got ill they shot up again. That's the one that did confuse me.
I certainly had much more support for Boris myself at the start, they were keeping morale up, the furlough scheme was protecting people the boffins at the press conferences seemed to know what they were doing. It looked like it was all going well.
Now that the death tolls and carehome decisions etc are all coming to light and lockdown continues the ratings have fallen ever since.
Looking at other countries, the ratings often seem to rise after lock downs stop, perhaps the same will happen with the U.K. soon?
I would say my feelings towards the government’s handling have pretty much mirrored that chart also.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 30th May 11:53
El stovey said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Ironically weren't "his" approval ratings better whilst he was ill and nowhere to be seen because he was in hospital?
That's the one that did confuse me.
Wasn’t it classic rally round the flag. in the face of a threat people looked to the leader as they are in control and have all the information. The government’s approval rating shot up at the start as did Boris’s like most leaders, then when he got ill they shot up again. That's the one that did confuse me.
I certainly had much more support for Boris myself at the start, they were keeping morale up, the furlough scheme was protecting people the boffins at the press conferences seemed to know what they were doing. It looked like it was all going well.
Now that the death tolls and carehome decisions etc are all coming to light and lockdown continues the ratings have fallen ever since.
Looking at other countries, the ratings often seem to rise after lock downs stop, perhaps the same will happen with the U.K. soon?
I would say my feelings towards the government’s handling have pretty much mirrored that chart also.
Edited by El stovey on Saturday 30th May 11:53
One rule for them, another for everyone else will be the claim.
Zirconia said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:greygoose said:
Whilst Sturgeon is generally disliked here, I think she comes across better in the press conferences, there seems to be more explanation of the route ahead and clarity to the message. Boris and co have appeared confused at times and after a clear message at first the rest got garbled and was just a mess, Stay Alert was weird as you cannot see the virus so what are you being alert for?
That seems reasonably fair.I don't follow Sturgeon closely so I'm only going off what I've seen on TV snippets but she comes across really well whenever I've seen her speak recently.
But we are in it for longer it seems.
There is growing distrust with the welsh government and the assembly itself we have local elections next year that will be extremely interesting, a big % voted for the Brexit party in the general elections next with them gone they wont be voting labour tory or plaid so suspect if the abolish the welsh assembly party yes they did stand in the last locals stand again we see a big up take in votes for them.
I don't know anyone in wales that is actually happy about the way drakeford has handled things.
Looks like the the National Debt is set to hit 2 trillion according to this left wing mouthpiece
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Helicopter123 said:
Looks like the the National Debt is set to hit 2 trillion according to this left wing mouthpiece
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Now we are out of the EU we will be able to reduce this. You have to feel sorry for the EU countries who have higher debt, no way of paying it off and certain countries in the EU still spending their money for them...https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Helicopter123 said:
Looks like the the National Debt is set to hit 2 trillion according to this left wing mouthpiece
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
You know that posting this in multiple threads has the opposite result to making it seem more erudite?https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Helicopter123 said:
Looks like the the National Debt is set to hit 2 trillion according to this left wing mouthpiece
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Can you think of any events that might have contributed to that? A hint for you - one them is ongoing at the moment.https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Your thought process is non existent. I'm not sure if it's just because you're a troll or because you really are that thick.
Murph7355 said:
Helicopter123 said:
I suspect the damage inflicted by Cummings will prove lasting.
One rule for them, another for everyone else will be the claim.
Name one party who won't have that thrown right back at them should they pursue this angle in 2025...One rule for them, another for everyone else will be the claim.
MG CHRIS said:
I don't know anyone in wales that is actually happy about the way drakeford has handled things.
You do now. Many of the people I speak to feel the same. Perhaps you could have shortened your sentence to 'I don't know anyone in Wales'?Yes, he appears like a head librarian but he's doing what he feels is right. You must think that 'Stay Local' is better than 'Stay Alert'?
We have different issues to deal with in Wales especially in the coastal and National Park areas which is where I live. North Wales is a hotspot at the moment and the A55 is being branded the Covid Highway. Whether that is selfish visitors crossing the border and bringing it here I do not know but there are many tales of idiots being found on beaches, in tents etc.
We'll see about the politics bit later.
Trophy Husband said:
MG CHRIS said:
I don't know anyone in wales that is actually happy about the way drakeford has handled things.
You do now. Many of the people I speak to feel the same. Perhaps you could have shortened your sentence to 'I don't know anyone in Wales'?Yes, he appears like a head librarian but he's doing what he feels is right. You must think that 'Stay Local' is better than 'Stay Alert'?
We have different issues to deal with in Wales especially in the coastal and National Park areas which is where I live. North Wales is a hotspot at the moment and the A55 is being branded the Covid Highway. Whether that is selfish visitors crossing the border and bringing it here I do not know but there are many tales of idiots being found on beaches, in tents etc.
We'll see about the politics bit later.
Helicopter123 said:
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Only you would have the thick skin to attempt to make political gains out of a pandemic.Of course, the hypocrisy is noted - you posted a number of times that the Tories were following Labour spending plans in the pandemic. Just two months of that and you're already complaining about it. Just imagine if we had a Labour government planning to keep spending like that for five years.
Helicopter123 said:
Murph7355 said:
Helicopter123 said:
I suspect the damage inflicted by Cummings will prove lasting.
One rule for them, another for everyone else will be the claim.
Name one party who won't have that thrown right back at them should they pursue this angle in 2025...One rule for them, another for everyone else will be the claim.
Or the world's best troll ever 
).Slagathore said:
Helicopter123 said:
Looks like the the National Debt is set to hit 2 trillion according to this left wing mouthpiece
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Can you think of any events that might have contributed to that? A hint for you - one them is ongoing at the moment.https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Your thought process is non existent. I'm not sure if it's just because you're a troll or because you really are that thick.
Wombat3 said:
Slagathore said:
Helicopter123 said:
Looks like the the National Debt is set to hit 2 trillion according to this left wing mouthpiece
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Can you think of any events that might have contributed to that? A hint for you - one them is ongoing at the moment.https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
It took over 300 years for the UK to reach a national debt of £1tn, however it has taken only another decade to reach £2tn.
The Tories make a great deal of being 'economically competent' but you do wonder how this will play out when difficult decisions need to be made.
On the face of it, they've presided over a doubling of the national debt (and beyond) on their watch.
Your thought process is non existent. I'm not sure if it's just because you're a troll or because you really are that thick.
Helicopter123 said:
I’m not a socialist but worry about the damage Boris may be doing to the UK economy. If you spend spend spend eventually there is a day of reckoning.
Tuna said:
Only you would have the thick skin to attempt to make political gains out of a pandemic.
Of course, the hypocrisy is noted - you posted a number of times that the Tories were following Labour spending plans in the pandemic. Just two months of that and you're already complaining about it. Just imagine if we had a Labour government planning to keep spending like that for five years.
I'll refer you to Tuna's post a few up that you've conveniently ignored.Of course, the hypocrisy is noted - you posted a number of times that the Tories were following Labour spending plans in the pandemic. Just two months of that and you're already complaining about it. Just imagine if we had a Labour government planning to keep spending like that for five years.
You're not fooling anyone. It's just embarrassing!
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