Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)
Discussion
Mobile Chicane said:
So, it's more important for you to vote for a regime that will ensure austerity continues, that we have even more homeless dying on the streets, public services for everyone in the UK are further degraded, and we run the risk of an extremely damaging Brexit that will negatively affect the lives of Semite, anti-Semite, racist and non-racist alike...
But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
The only important bit there is Brexit. The rest is the anticipated consequence of socialism.But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
If you don't want homelessness, poor public services after 5-10 years, increased unemployment and a general downturn in economy and every thing that go's with it. (Also being pushed out of society if you don't join "the party", or happen to be the wrong race/creed or whatever else the leadership decide should exclude you) Don't vote red.
If you don't want brexit. (Which will in itself harm the economy and cause all sorts of similar issues just like socialism, but fingers crossed only for 20-30 years or so). Don't vote blue.
Doesn't leave a lot of options does it. But suddenly yellow looks way more attractive than either of those options.
Mobile Chicane said:
So, it's more important for you to vote for a regime that will ensure austerity continues, that we have even more homeless dying on the streets, public services for everyone in the UK are further degraded, and we run the risk of an extremely damaging Brexit that will negatively affect the lives of Semite, anti-Semite, racist and non-racist alike...
But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
Standard social media argument which goes absolutely nowhere.But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
Mobile Chicane said:
So, it's more important for you to vote for a regime that will ensure austerity continues, that we have even more homeless dying on the streets, public services for everyone in the UK are further degraded, and we run the risk of an extremely damaging Brexit that will negatively affect the lives of Semite, anti-Semite, racist and non-racist alike...
But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
It's about voting for the 'least worst' option.But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
I'm not going to waste any further time with you because you've obviously fallen for the labour parties repeated 'big lie'
Mobile Chicane said:
So, it's more important for you to vote for a regime that will ensure austerity continues...<snip>
How is austerity continuing? Day-to-day public spending is set to rise by £34bn a year by 2024 along with £62bn investment spending.We all know Labour has gone above that by some way (x3 on day-to-day according to the IFS) as they're offering pie in the sky Corbynomics with Abbottology. The more reasonable Conservative position isn't austerity. Media coverage said "Boris Johnson has today revealed the Conservative's election manifesto, hailing new promises to end austerity with a spending spree" see above.
Munter said:
Mobile Chicane said:
So, it's more important for you to vote for a regime that will ensure austerity continues, that we have even more homeless dying on the streets, public services for everyone in the UK are further degraded, and we run the risk of an extremely damaging Brexit that will negatively affect the lives of Semite, anti-Semite, racist and non-racist alike...
But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
The only important bit there is Brexit. The rest is the anticipated consequence of socialism.But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
If you don't want homelessness, poor public services after 5-10 years, increased unemployment and a general downturn in economy and every thing that go's with it. (Also being pushed out of society if you don't join "the party", or happen to be the wrong race/creed or whatever else the leadership decide should exclude you) Don't vote red.
If you don't want brexit. (Which will in itself harm the economy and cause all sorts of similar issues just like socialism, but fingers crossed only for 20-30 years or so). Don't vote blue.
Doesn't leave a lot of options does it. But suddenly yellow looks way more attractive than either of those options.
Much as I would like to support Corbyn and his transformative agenda, I accept that voting tactically is the only means of unseating the incumbent Tory.
Which is far more important to me than ideology.
It amuses me that people still refer to austerity as a political policy. As if a party that wants to be elected would, by virtue of a fiscal measure, deliberately alienate a large portion of the electorate for political dogma. Do the complainants not realise that belt-tightening is a necessary measure after a spending spree? Spend more than you earn and destitution will surely follow. The debt may be larger than in 2010 but the overspending (deficit) is dramatically less than it was. It takes a while to pay off a large debt such as Brown left the UK with.
motco said:
It amuses me that people still refer to austerity as a political policy. As if a party that wants to be elected would, by virtue of a fiscal measure, deliberately alienate a large portion of the electorate for political dogma. Do the complainants not realise that belt-tightening is a necessary measure after a spending spree? Spend more than you earn and destitution will surely follow. The debt may be larger than in 2010 but the overspending (deficit) is dramatically less than it was. It takes a while to pay off a large debt such as Brown left the UK with.
No they do not understand that. I've tried explaining it. But Tory's are evil save the NHS.Remember a lot of people get into trouble with their personal finances and don't understand why. It was offered so they took it. Now they just need to decide who's fault their debt is. The Tory's obviously.
Mobile Chicane said:
Munter said:
Mobile Chicane said:
So, it's more important for you to vote for a regime that will ensure austerity continues, that we have even more homeless dying on the streets, public services for everyone in the UK are further degraded, and we run the risk of an extremely damaging Brexit that will negatively affect the lives of Semite, anti-Semite, racist and non-racist alike...
But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
The only important bit there is Brexit. The rest is the anticipated consequence of socialism.But that's ok with you?
Sheesh.
If you don't want homelessness, poor public services after 5-10 years, increased unemployment and a general downturn in economy and every thing that go's with it. (Also being pushed out of society if you don't join "the party", or happen to be the wrong race/creed or whatever else the leadership decide should exclude you) Don't vote red.
If you don't want brexit. (Which will in itself harm the economy and cause all sorts of similar issues just like socialism, but fingers crossed only for 20-30 years or so). Don't vote blue.
Doesn't leave a lot of options does it. But suddenly yellow looks way more attractive than either of those options.
Much as I would like to support Corbyn and his transformative agenda, I accept that voting tactically is the only means of unseating the incumbent Tory.
Which is far more important to me than ideology.
motco said:
It amuses me that people still refer to austerity as a political policy. As if a party that wants to be elected would, by virtue of a fiscal measure, deliberately alienate a large portion of the electorate for political dogma. Do the complainants not realise that belt-tightening is a necessary measure after a spending spree? Spend more than you earn and destitution will surely follow. The debt may be larger than in 2010 but the overspending (deficit) is dramatically less than it was. It takes a while to pay off a large debt such as Brown left the UK with.
The debt wasn't the problem, nor even the deficit which is to be expected in a downturn. The real issue was the huge structural deficit but explaining the nuance to numpties whining about austerity is like trying to teach a fish to play tennis.MWM3 said:
That isn't a practical joke that's real? 
MWM3 said:
Wonder if Lily Allen got the memo.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff