Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

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Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Digga said:
Good head to head between McDonnell and 'billionaire philanthropist' John Caudwell:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-5069167...
McDonnell does not listen does he, it says a LOT about how/why he and his regressive ideology is so dangerous to all of us

ntiz

2,343 posts

137 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
768 said:
To be fair, she didn't even try for A levels.
Did she get that far in the alphabet ?
Always found it bizarre how people like Boris and Cameron get criticised for being from Eton and Oxford.

As if it’s a bad thing that some of the most highly educated people in the country are trying to run it? Yet these complete morons who couldn’t get good enough grades to make it out side of politics are held up as being a better alternative!!

If you take politics out of it and compared them as people for a job. Which would you employ the school drop out or the high flyer?

Tycho

11,635 posts

274 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Digga said:
Good head to head between McDonnell and 'billionaire philanthropist' John Caudwell:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-5069167...
I was quite disappointed in that as it was too superficial and short. A proper debate would have been good where McDonnell was properly grilled about his ambitions for capitalism etc.

randlemarcus

13,528 posts

232 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Good? Your mileage may vary. Might be my bias, but I heard nothing from McDonnell that would have caused me to cancel the plane tickets, were I Caudwell.

greygoose

8,269 posts

196 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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ntiz said:
Dont like rolls said:
768 said:
To be fair, she didn't even try for A levels.
Did she get that far in the alphabet ?
Always found it bizarre how people like Boris and Cameron get criticised for being from Eton and Oxford.

As if it’s a bad thing that some of the most highly educated people in the country are trying to run it? Yet these complete morons who couldn’t get good enough grades to make it out side of politics are held up as being a better alternative!!

If you take politics out of it and compared them as people for a job. Which would you employ the school drop out or the high flyer?
Hmm, Cameron who split the country for years with a referendum that has caused chaos and has still not been sorted out years later or Boris who has been sacked for lying as a journalist and as a Minister, not sure either of those CVs would make it through to the interview stage no matter what school they went to.

ntiz

2,343 posts

137 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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greygoose said:
ntiz said:
Dont like rolls said:
768 said:
To be fair, she didn't even try for A levels.
Did she get that far in the alphabet ?
Always found it bizarre how people like Boris and Cameron get criticised for being from Eton and Oxford.

As if it’s a bad thing that some of the most highly educated people in the country are trying to run it? Yet these complete morons who couldn’t get good enough grades to make it out side of politics are held up as being a better alternative!!

If you take politics out of it and compared them as people for a job. Which would you employ the school drop out or the high flyer?
Hmm, Cameron who split the country for years with a referendum that has caused chaos and has still not been sorted out years later or Boris who has been sacked for lying as a journalist and as a Minister, not sure either of those CVs would make it through to the interview stage no matter what school they went to.
We haven’t seen what fun and games the other option would give us yet.

I didn’t say they are good people but there definitely better qualified than the other option.

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
Digga said:
Good head to head between McDonnell and 'billionaire philanthropist' John Caudwell:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-5069167...
McDonnell does not listen does he, it says a LOT about how/why he and his regressive ideology is so dangerous to all of us
Tycho said:
I was quite disappointed in that as it was too superficial and short. A proper debate would have been good where McDonnell was properly grilled about his ambitions for capitalism etc.
Actually, I think there was enough there; you get the idea that Labour is going to be very, very bad for the economy. I think the thing, were there more time available, that I'd have like to see challenged is McDonnell's "tax the top 5%" plan, because that will hit huge numbers and will be the real drag on entrepreneurship and the major cause of wealth flight.

I;ve never been a huge fan of Caudwell (heard enough from people who worked with the firm) but playing the ball, not the man, he conducted himself well in this interview and his approach have sufficient gravitas to make McDonnell look like the clueless anit-capitalist clown he really is.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Tycho said:
Digga said:
Good head to head between McDonnell and 'billionaire philanthropist' John Caudwell:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-5069167...
I was quite disappointed in that as it was too superficial and short. A proper debate would have been good where McDonnell was properly grilled about his ambitions for capitalism etc.
Excluding the interviewer, there was only one intellect there - watching J Mc's body language as he was closed down was interesting.

I also get the feeling it was heavily edited. Firstly the BBC wouldn't allow anything too damning of Labour's financial ambitions, and it seemed somewhat jumpy.

EarlOfHazard

3,603 posts

159 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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768

13,708 posts

97 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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EarlOfHazard said:
Rayner's already going to have seen it on catch up tomorrow by now.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Mothersruin said:
Excluding the interviewer, there was only one intellect there - watching J Mc's body language as he was closed down was interesting.

I also get the feeling it was heavily edited. Firstly the BBC wouldn't allow anything too damning of Labour's financial ambitions, and it seemed somewhat jumpy.
Very much edited.

McDonell also lied when called on the no billionaires should exist quote. Watch again and see what he says.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Mothersruin said:
Excluding the interviewer, there was only one intellect there - watching J Mc's body language as he was closed down was interesting.

I also get the feeling it was heavily edited. Firstly the BBC wouldn't allow anything too damning of Labour's financial ambitions, and it seemed somewhat jumpy.
What struck me was that even though JM pretended to go along with the argument that we need successful businesses in order to have anything to tax, both of them seemed to assume that the only way a business benefits society is by providing the government with more money. There was no recognition that a business serving customers in a reasonable approximation of free market is clearly providing a benefit irrespective of the tax it pays.

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
Mothersruin said:
Excluding the interviewer, there was only one intellect there - watching J Mc's body language as he was closed down was interesting.

I also get the feeling it was heavily edited. Firstly the BBC wouldn't allow anything too damning of Labour's financial ambitions, and it seemed somewhat jumpy.
What struck me was that even though JM pretended to go along with the argument that we need successful businesses in order to have anything to tax, both of them seemed to assume that the only way a business benefits society is by providing the government with more money. There was no recognition that a business serving customers in a reasonable approximation of free market is clearly providing a benefit irrespective of the tax it pays.
Or creating jobs, or any of the other, great many things - working with local communities, providing vital work experience for pupils, helping charities etc. -which most good businesses are involved with.

motco

15,967 posts

247 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
Digga said:
Good head to head between McDonnell and 'billionaire philanthropist' John Caudwell:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-5069167...
McDonnell does not listen does he, it says a LOT about how/why he and his regressive ideology is so dangerous to all of us
He ridicules the other party by a belly-laugh. McDonnell isn't normally given to laughter so it's clearly a tactic when he has no answer. He had the temerity to tell Caudwell that he WOULD have started his business under this Labour administration despite Caudwell saying he would not because McDonnell et al scare him stiff. Closed mind, or what?


Edited by motco on Monday 9th December 12:36

MKnight702

3,110 posts

215 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Digga said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Mothersruin said:
Excluding the interviewer, there was only one intellect there - watching J Mc's body language as he was closed down was interesting.

I also get the feeling it was heavily edited. Firstly the BBC wouldn't allow anything too damning of Labour's financial ambitions, and it seemed somewhat jumpy.
What struck me was that even though JM pretended to go along with the argument that we need successful businesses in order to have anything to tax, both of them seemed to assume that the only way a business benefits society is by providing the government with more money. There was no recognition that a business serving customers in a reasonable approximation of free market is clearly providing a benefit irrespective of the tax it pays.
Or creating jobs, or any of the other, great many things - working with local communities, providing vital work experience for pupils, helping charities etc. -which most good businesses are involved with.
Exactly, how will business providing the above help the public become dependent upon the state for everything?

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Digga said:
Good head to head between McDonnell and 'billionaire philanthropist' John Caudwell:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-5069167...
Caudwell tore him to tatters. And when asked about Billionaires, McDonnell say 'some in the Party have a problem with it, when in fact HE was the one that first said 'no one needs or deserves to be a billionaire'. Gutless wker was too scared to repeat it to the mans face. It proves he just can't be trusted and is a liar.

Smollet

10,621 posts

191 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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768 said:
To be fair, she didn't even try for A levels.
Probably couldn’t spell it

JagLover

42,454 posts

236 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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768 said:
Slaav said:
Kent Border Kenny said:
I struggle to understand how you can have a private education and then fail so badly at A-levels.

Intelligence is far from sufficient to think that you can run the country, but it’s necessary.
Don’t worry, the Shadow Education Minister was talking about the ‘full electrifisation’ Of cars and trains Labour smile
To be fair, she didn't even try for A levels.
That's why she left school pregnant

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Gecko1978

9,734 posts

158 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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JagLover said:
That's why she left school pregnant
hahahaha very good wonder if its just my sick mind that spotted that