Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

[turbobloke]

Garvin said:

Just as JC thinks he got BoJo on the ropes, in steps the Conservative secret weapon to deliver a resounding upper cut on poor old JC. The secret weapon that is his own Labour colleague.

What happened?

PH has been down so entire continents may have vanished

[Digga]

turbobloke said:

Garvin said:

Just as JC thinks he got BoJo on the ropes, in steps the Conservative secret weapon to deliver a resounding upper cut on poor old JC. The secret weapon that is his own Labour colleague.

What happened?

PH has been down so entire continents may have vanished

One word: Ashworth.

Details here: https://order-order.com/

[Garvin]

turbobloke said:

Garvin said:

Just as JC thinks he got BoJo on the ropes, in steps the Conservative secret weapon to deliver a resounding upper cut on poor old JC. The secret weapon that is his own Labour colleague.

What happened?

PH has been down so entire continents may have vanished

Ashworth makes an accurate description of his leader. It’s all over the news!

[turbobloke]

Garvin said:

turbobloke said:

Garvin said:

Just as JC thinks he got BoJo on the ropes, in steps the Conservative secret weapon to deliver a resounding upper cut on poor old JC. The secret weapon that is his own Labour colleague.

spot
What happened?

PH has been down so entire continents may have vanished

Ashworth makes an accurate description of his leader. It’s all over the news!

Thanks, I haven't been all over the news!
Top spot on BBC news? I don't partake.

[vixen1700]

“I’ve been going round these national places, it’s dire for Labour… it’s dire… it’s awful for them, and it’s the combination of Corbyn and Brexit….outside of the city seats… it’s abysmal out there… they can’t stand Corbyn and they think Labour’s blocked Brexit. I think middle-class graduates – remainy people – Labour’s doing well among… but not in big enough numbers to deny the Tories a majority.”

[Burwood]

turbobloke said:

Garvin said:

Just as JC thinks he got BoJo on the ropes, in steps the Conservative secret weapon to deliver a resounding upper cut on poor old JC. The secret weapon that is his own Labour colleague.

What happened?

PH has been down so entire continents may have vanished

Just a bit of banter between friends. He didn't mean it when he said 'We fked it up in 2016 (putting Corbyn forward as leader)' 'the normally safe constituencies in the North hate Corbyn. It's dire' 'the civil service machine will move quickly to protect us from Corbyn' 'the public thinks what we all think, that Corbyn blocked Brexit'

Game set and match to Boris.

[pingu393]

R Mutt said:

V10leptoquark said:

R Mutt said:

I had a conversation with someone otherwise appearing of fair intellect who asked why I was concerned about corporation tax, as 'only large corporations pay it'

Typical of most Labour voters in their limited understanding of business..

Also had similar conversations.

The majority of the UK economy is made up from SMEs (small/medium enterprises) - such as the typical corner shop, the start ups, the self employed etc. etc. What some would call "real people" doing a "hard days work". Not the typical left wing notion that businesses must all be of the type that have the tax payer sitting in an ivory office throwing paper airplanes in to the bin whilst they laugh at the 'oppressed' salary level of the factory floor.

They sound like very typical 'working class' jobs, such as builders who are also self employed under the exact same company structure but we all know what Labour thinks of them (unless they're Polish)

Is it worth being a ltd company if you have <£20k profits? I'm a sole trader as it is a better option.

[Digga]

pingu393 said:

R Mutt said:

V10leptoquark said:

R Mutt said:

I had a conversation with someone otherwise appearing of fair intellect who asked why I was concerned about corporation tax, as 'only large corporations pay it'

Typical of most Labour voters in their limited understanding of business..

Also had similar conversations.

The majority of the UK economy is made up from SMEs (small/medium enterprises) - such as the typical corner shop, the start ups, the self employed etc. etc. What some would call "real people" doing a "hard days work". Not the typical left wing notion that businesses must all be of the type that have the tax payer sitting in an ivory office throwing paper airplanes in to the bin whilst they laugh at the 'oppressed' salary level of the factory floor.

They sound like very typical 'working class' jobs, such as builders who are also self employed under the exact same company structure but we all know what Labour thinks of them (unless they're Polish)

Is it worth being a ltd company if you have <£20k profits? I'm a sole trader as it is a better option.

Depends what you sole trade in. If there is potential for any liability, the limited liability status affords you personal protection from having your own assets roped into any claim or dispute. If not then probably little to no advantage really.

[turbobloke]

Burwood said:

turbobloke said:

Garvin said:

Just as JC thinks he got BoJo on the ropes, in steps the Conservative secret weapon to deliver a resounding upper cut on poor old JC. The secret weapon that is his own Labour colleague.

What happened?

PH has been down so entire continents may have vanished

Just a bit of banter between friends. He didn't mean it when he said 'We fked it up in 2016 (putting Corbyn forward as leader)' 'the normally safe constituencies in the North hate Corbyn. It's dire' 'the civil service machine will move quickly to protect us from Corbyn' 'the public thinks what we all think, that Corbyn blocked Brexit'

Game set and match to Boris.

I've just been reading all about it, particularly The Guardian, where it is indeed nothing but banter and the real story is that the recording was leaked to a right-wing blog. That'll do (not).

Despite their best efforts the news focus has indeed shifted and it's not about banter or winged blogs.

[JagLover]

Burwood said:

Just a bit of banter between friends. He didn't mean it when he said 'We fked it up in 2016 (putting Corbyn forward as leader)' 'the normally safe constituencies in the North hate Corbyn. It's dire' 'the civil service machine will move quickly to protect us from Corbyn' 'the public thinks what we all think, that Corbyn blocked Brexit'

Game set and match to Boris.

Trying to be serious for a moment. Why are Labour MPs campaigning to put in office a man they regard as a security risk?

If they had all broke away as a group they could have formed a credible new party .

[R Mutt]

I likely will no longer be in the financial services under Corbyn.

Assuming I fall back on art or music something how would I fare? Will it be like under Blair with New Deal etc, and the Big State, where I'd get a public sector job?

How about if I open a cafe? No tax breaks there.

[Burwood]

JagLover said:

Burwood said:

Just a bit of banter between friends. He didn't mean it when he said 'We fked it up in 2016 (putting Corbyn forward as leader)' 'the normally safe constituencies in the North hate Corbyn. It's dire' 'the civil service machine will move quickly to protect us from Corbyn' 'the public thinks what we all think, that Corbyn blocked Brexit'

Game set and match to Boris.

Trying to be serious for a moment. Why are Labour MPs campaigning to put in office a man they regard as a security risk?

If they had all broke away as a group they could have formed a credible new party .

they care more about their own skin?

[turbobloke]

JagLover said:

Burwood said:

Just a bit of banter between friends. He didn't mean it when he said 'We fked it up in 2016 (putting Corbyn forward as leader)' 'the normally safe constituencies in the North hate Corbyn. It's dire' 'the civil service machine will move quickly to protect us from Corbyn' 'the public thinks what we all think, that Corbyn blocked Brexit'

Game set and match to Boris.

Trying to be serious for a moment. Why are Labour MPs campaigning to put in office a man they regard as a security risk?

If they had all broke away as a group they could have formed a credible new party .

Watch this space. Party political cleavage may not be on page three in 2020. Just the front pages.

[SpeckledJim]

JagLover said:

Burwood said:

Just a bit of banter between friends. He didn't mean it when he said 'We fked it up in 2016 (putting Corbyn forward as leader)' 'the normally safe constituencies in the North hate Corbyn. It's dire' 'the civil service machine will move quickly to protect us from Corbyn' 'the public thinks what we all think, that Corbyn blocked Brexit'

Game set and match to Boris.

Trying to be serious for a moment. Why are Labour MPs campaigning to put in office a man they regard as a security risk?

If they had all broke away as a group they could have formed a credible new party .

This.

Gutless.

If Corbyn, McD and Milne want the Labour Party IP, then let them have it. Within months that's all they'd have.

Moderate, decent, sensible Labour folk could have formed a credible alternative to both Labour and Conservatives, and what's more, they'd be able to sleep at night. I don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror at the moment.

[Brave Fart]

pingu393 said:

Is it worth being a ltd company if you have <£20k profits? I'm a sole trader as it is a better option.

Pay yourself just below the NI point (£8500 ish), top up with dividends (£6000 ish), pay the rest of the profits in to your pension fund. You have, entirely legally, avoided tax of any sort. If Labour got in this would all change, of course.

[Munter]

SpeckledJim said:

JagLover said:

Burwood said:

Just a bit of banter between friends. He didn't mean it when he said 'We fked it up in 2016 (putting Corbyn forward as leader)' 'the normally safe constituencies in the North hate Corbyn. It's dire' 'the civil service machine will move quickly to protect us from Corbyn' 'the public thinks what we all think, that Corbyn blocked Brexit'

Game set and match to Boris.

Trying to be serious for a moment. Why are Labour MPs campaigning to put in office a man they regard as a security risk?

If they had all broke away as a group they could have formed a credible new party .

This.

Gutless.

If Corbyn, McD and Milne want the Labour Party IP, then let them have it. Within months that's all they'd have.

Moderate, decent, sensible Labour folk could have formed a credible alternative to both Labour and Conservatives, and what's more, they'd be able to sleep at night. I don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror at the moment.

Well given how well it worked out for ChangeUK/The Independent Group it's a wonder isn't it.

Nobody in politics dares leave a big party because they know the voters will not vote outside the red/blue/yellow options. You step out, and others will not follow and you will not get voted in. They can only effect change by being inside the party. They can't campaign against the leader and be in the party. Basically it's a st situation caused by voting in the wrong leader from within the party.

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

This.

Gutless.

If Corbyn, McD and Milne want the Labour Party IP, then let them have it. Within months that's all they'd have.

Moderate, decent, sensible Labour folk could have formed a credible alternative to both Labour and Conservatives, and what's more, they'd be able to sleep at night. I don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror at the moment.

Change U.K. and whatever party soubry is in haven’t done well neither have the libdems.

It’s pretty hard to start a new party, due to funding and tribal voting. Farage has been successful in the eu elections but he’s single issue and hasn’t ever won a seat in Parliament.

I think they’re waiting to see what happens after brexit/this election. Hopefully after it all settles corbyn/McDonnell/Rayner etc will either get overthrown or a new party might arrive from the ashes.

[Mothersruin]

Digga said:

turbobloke said:

Garvin said:

Just as JC thinks he got BoJo on the ropes, in steps the Conservative secret weapon to deliver a resounding upper cut on poor old JC. The secret weapon that is his own Labour colleague.

What happened?

PH has been down so entire continents may have vanished

One word: Ashworth.

Details here: https://order-order.com/

[SpeckledJim]

El stovey said:

SpeckledJim said:

This.

Gutless.

If Corbyn, McD and Milne want the Labour Party IP, then let them have it. Within months that's all they'd have.

Moderate, decent, sensible Labour folk could have formed a credible alternative to both Labour and Conservatives, and what's more, they'd be able to sleep at night. I don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror at the moment.

Change U.K. and whatever party soubry is in haven’t done well neither have the libdems.

It’s pretty hard to start a new party, due to funding and tribal voting. Farage has been successful in the eu elections but he’s single issue and hasn’t ever won a seat in Parliament.

I think they’re waiting to see what happens after brexit/this election. Hopefully after it all settles corbyn/McDonnell/Rayner etc will either get overthrown or a new party might arrive from the ashes.

If every MP who had voted no confidence in Corbyn had joined, en masse, then the project would likely have worked, IMO.

The goodwill for them would have been off-the-charts, IMO, from normal people from both sides of the central dotted-line, who've watched them sit on their hands with growing horror/disgust/shame.

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

If every MP who had voted no confidence in Corbyn had joined, en masse, then the project would likely have worked, IMO.

The goodwill for them would have been off-the-charts, IMO, from normal people from both sides of the central dotted-line, who've watched them sit on their hands with growing horror/disgust/shame.

Sure but other MPs who’ve left a party or worse crossed the floor are vilified in the media with reactionaries calling them traitors and getting upset there wasn’t a by-election for their seat.

Look at the hate soubry and Chuka Umunna get. It’s a pretty unpeasant time for politics and politicians who make a stand about anything.

I expect most hope this is just a temporary phase and the upcoming election disaster will trigger some change at the top?