Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

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ZeroGroundZero

2,085 posts

54 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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kuro68k said:
It's interesting that the best people can to do criticise Corbyn is call him a communist and a terrorist. It's almost as if they can't really fault his actual policies, except to try to make out he's as big a liar as Boris.
Only been on PH for a few weeks but I think this is the most ridiculous comment I've read so far !

kuro68k - Suggest you actually read the criticisms that his opposition are making. Corbyn and his ideology are not fit for modern western economies, his hard line socialist approach (as detailed within his manifesto) would do a lot of harm to the structure of the UK. His party and his politics are based up on a bedrock of 'hatred'.
Hatred of people who are doing well for themselves, the people who have made the extra effort or taken the risks to get where they are.
Hatred of the Jewish, a fundamental party core racist view point towards the Jews.
Hatred of the Tories, and anybody else that does not stand with them on the hard left.
Hatred towards British history and national interest and security. Supporting enemies of the UK.
Hatred of capitalism, the single biggest influencer of bringing people out of poverty and raising living standards across much of the world. The system that also reduced 'oppression' rather than made it worse.
etc.
etc.
Its a party and politics of hate.

Not fit for the modern western world and a real surprise that many of his supporters fall for it all based up on the simple narrative of "inequality".

Smollet

10,574 posts

190 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ZeroGroundZero said:
Only been on PH for a few weeks but I think this is the most ridiculous comment I've read so far !

kuro68k - Suggest you actually read the criticisms that his opposition are making. Corbyn and his ideology are not fit for modern western economies, his hard line socialist approach (as detailed within his manifesto) would do a lot of harm to the structure of the UK. His party and his politics are based up on a bedrock of 'hatred'.
Hatred of people who are doing well for themselves, the people who have made the extra effort or taken the risks to get where they are.
Hatred of the Jewish, a fundamental party core racist view point towards the Jews.
Hatred of the Tories, and anybody else that does not stand with them on the hard left.
Hatred towards British history and national interest and security. Supporting enemies of the UK.
Hatred of capitalism, the single biggest influencer of bringing people out of poverty and raising living standards across much of the world. The system that also reduced 'oppression' rather than made it worse.
etc.
etc.
Its a party and politics of hate.

Not fit for the modern western world and a real surprise that many of his supporters fall for it all based up on the simple narrative of "inequality".
Spot on. Good post.

BOR

4,702 posts

255 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ZeroGroundZero said:
Only been on PH for a few weeks but I think this is the most ridiculous comment I've read so far !

kuro68k - Suggest you actually read the criticisms that his opposition are making. Corbyn and his ideology are not fit for modern western economies, his hard line socialist approach (as detailed within his manifesto) would do a lot of harm to the structure of the UK. His party and his politics are based up on a bedrock of 'hatred'.
Hatred of people who are doing well for themselves, the people who have made the extra effort or taken the risks to get where they are.
Hatred of the Jewish, a fundamental party core racist view point towards the Jews.
Hatred of the Tories, and anybody else that does not stand with them on the hard left.
Hatred towards British history and national interest and security. Supporting enemies of the UK.
Hatred of capitalism, the single biggest influencer of bringing people out of poverty and raising living standards across much of the world. The system that also reduced 'oppression' rather than made it worse.
etc.
etc.
Its a party and politics of hate.

Not fit for the modern western world and a real surprise that many of his supporters fall for it all based up on the simple narrative of "inequality".
Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.

I hope people think about your mud flinging as they go past yet another food bank on their way to vote and think about what else your sort have lied about.

Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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BOR said:
Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.

I hope people think about your mud flinging as they go past yet another food bank on their way to vote and think about what else your sort have lied about.
Your post is from the heart of the party Momentum has created, from the remains of the once working person's Labour party.

You are of that party of the malcontents. You have shown your true colours here. Well done comrade. Well done.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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kuro68k said:
petop said:
Dont worry if Corbyn does miraculously win, our Employment issues will be sorted with this idiot who cannot string sentences together.

https://youtu.be/YBqZsm_1Zc0

Another politician that cannot answer a question properly.
At least Labour answer questions.

Boris had to hide in a fridge when asked a question. He refused to do Andrew Neil, he refused to do Jeremy Vine on Radio 2, he refused all scrutiny.

It's because he's full of st and he knows it. His manifesto isn't even costed! But then he doesn't plan to actually do any of those lies in it anyway.
Do you condemn the bombings carried out by the IRA, Mr Corbyn?

Questions like that you mean?

stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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BOR said:
ZeroGroundZero said:
Only been on PH for a few weeks but I think this is the most ridiculous comment I've read so far !

kuro68k - Suggest you actually read the criticisms that his opposition are making. Corbyn and his ideology are not fit for modern western economies, his hard line socialist approach (as detailed within his manifesto) would do a lot of harm to the structure of the UK. His party and his politics are based up on a bedrock of 'hatred'.
Hatred of people who are doing well for themselves, the people who have made the extra effort or taken the risks to get where they are.
Hatred of the Jewish, a fundamental party core racist view point towards the Jews.
Hatred of the Tories, and anybody else that does not stand with them on the hard left.
Hatred towards British history and national interest and security. Supporting enemies of the UK.
Hatred of capitalism, the single biggest influencer of bringing people out of poverty and raising living standards across much of the world. The system that also reduced 'oppression' rather than made it worse.
etc.
etc.
Its a party and politics of hate.

Not fit for the modern western world and a real surprise that many of his supporters fall for it all based up on the simple narrative of "inequality".
Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.

I hope people think about your mud flinging as they go past yet another food bank on their way to vote and think about what else your sort have lied about.
I sincerely hope people do consider his post en route to a polling station.
As he is bang on the money.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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kuro68k said:
It's interesting that the best people can to do criticise Corbyn is call him a communist and a terrorist. It's almost as if they can't really fault his actual policies, except to try to make out he's as big a liar as Boris.
Have you actually read this thread?????

Seriously - you've never seen anyone criticise his policies on this thread? Honestly?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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kuro68k said:
It's interesting that the best people can to do criticise Corbyn is call him a communist and a terrorist. It's almost as if they can't really fault his actual policies, except to try to make out he's as big a liar as Boris.
Lol. His policies betray a level of economic illiteracy only the truly dim witted could believe will work. They've been ripped apart countless times. His hatred for this country and so many of us in it is just the cherry on the st pie that is his 'leadership'..

biggbn

23,342 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Shout loudly, ignore debate, put forward opinion as fact and if that doesn't work, resort to bullying. Happens a lot these days. Johnson does this a lot, watch him in the HOC. This now passes as debate and we allow it, on internet boards, in our homes and workplaces, by our leaders. Our silent condoning has encouraged an insular politics where debate is stifled and opposite thought crushed. Proud to be part of this society?

The thing, above all, that a teacher should endeavor to produce in his pupils, if democracy is to survive, is the kind of tolerance that springs from an endeavor to understand those who are different from ourselves. It is perhaps a natural human impulse to view with horror and disgust all manners and customs different from those to which we are used. Ants and savages put strangers to death. And those who have never traveled either physically or mentally find it difficult to tolerate the queer ways and outlandish beliefs of other nations and other times, other sects and other political parties. This kind of ignorant intolerance is the antithesis of a civilized outlook, and is one of the gravest dangers to which our overcrowded world is exposed. Bertrand Russel, 1950....prescient

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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BOR said:
ZeroGroundZero said:
Only been on PH for a few weeks but I think this is the most ridiculous comment I've read so far !

kuro68k - Suggest you actually read the criticisms that his opposition are making. Corbyn and his ideology are not fit for modern western economies, his hard line socialist approach (as detailed within his manifesto) would do a lot of harm to the structure of the UK. His party and his politics are based up on a bedrock of 'hatred'.
Hatred of people who are doing well for themselves, the people who have made the extra effort or taken the risks to get where they are.
Hatred of the Jewish, a fundamental party core racist view point towards the Jews.
Hatred of the Tories, and anybody else that does not stand with them on the hard left.
Hatred towards British history and national interest and security. Supporting enemies of the UK.
Hatred of capitalism, the single biggest influencer of bringing people out of poverty and raising living standards across much of the world. The system that also reduced 'oppression' rather than made it worse.
etc.
etc.
Its a party and politics of hate.

Not fit for the modern western world and a real surprise that many of his supporters fall for it all based up on the simple narrative of "inequality".
Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.

I hope people think about your mud flinging as they go past yet another food bank on their way to vote and think about what else your sort have lied about.
The kinder, gentler politics of the tolerant left epitomised in one post - every point in ZGZ's post is spot on whether you like it or not. And I say this as a former Labour voter. It seems that in your mind anyone who doesn't agree with you is a 'Tory shill' which is just nonsense and let's be honest here, most of the mud flinging comes from 'your sort'. Is it ok for John McDonnell to say anyone who is a Tory should be hounded for simply having a different view? Is it ok for long standing Jewish members of the Labour party to be hounded out? Is it ok for Jeremy Corbyn to lash out with his fist at a journalist who dares to ask him a question about the quality of his leadership?


Edited by P5BNij on Thursday 12th December 12:01

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Smollet said:
ZeroGroundZero said:
Only been on PH for a few weeks but I think this is the most ridiculous comment I've read so far !

kuro68k - Suggest you actually read the criticisms that his opposition are making. Corbyn and his ideology are not fit for modern western economies, his hard line socialist approach (as detailed within his manifesto) would do a lot of harm to the structure of the UK. His party and his politics are based up on a bedrock of 'hatred'.
Hatred of people who are doing well for themselves, the people who have made the extra effort or taken the risks to get where they are.
Hatred of the Jewish, a fundamental party core racist view point towards the Jews.
Hatred of the Tories, and anybody else that does not stand with them on the hard left.
Hatred towards British history and national interest and security. Supporting enemies of the UK.
Hatred of capitalism, the single biggest influencer of bringing people out of poverty and raising living standards across much of the world. The system that also reduced 'oppression' rather than made it worse.
etc.
etc.
Its a party and politics of hate.

Not fit for the modern western world and a real surprise that many of his supporters fall for it all based up on the simple narrative of "inequality".
Spot on. Good post.
Seconded.


andymadmak

14,562 posts

270 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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BOR said:
Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.
Poisoned the air? How about a baseless claim that the Conservatives are selling the NHS to the Americans (whatever that actually means) ? How about sending out election materials that imply you'll have to pay for cancer treatments and such like? And Labours evidence? A document that actually doesn't say what you claim it does, sent to you by your friends in Russia?

And you have the absolute gall to accuse a poster of poisoning the air for having the temerity to point out Corbyn's record? - A record which is easily verifiable from a multitude of credible sources?
The only poison round here is Labour and its supporters. Nasty, violent, abusive, intolerant, delusional, dangerous, anti semitic, ignorant and filled with jealousy, envy and bile. God help us if we wake up to PM Corbyn tomorrow. People like you and he are the real danger to our society.

biggbn

23,342 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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andymadmak said:
BOR said:
Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.
Poisoned the air? How about a baseless claim that the Conservatives are selling the NHS to the Americans (whatever that actually means) ? How about sending out election materials that imply you'll have to pay for cancer treatments and such like? And Labours evidence? A document that actually doesn't say what you claim it does, sent to you by your friends in Russia?

And you have the absolute gall to accuse a poster of poisoning the air for having the temerity to point out Corbyn's record? - A record which is easily verifiable from a multitude of credible sources?
The only poison round here is Labour and its supporters. Nasty, violent, abusive, intolerant, delusional, dangerous, anti semitic, ignorant and filled with jealousy, envy and bile. God help us if we wake up to PM Corbyn tomorrow. People like you and he are the real danger to our society.
You should surely have used 'some labour supporters' there?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I mentioned a Labour Rally last night broadcast on BBC Parliament. In it they secured the services of a Billy Bragg type singer.
She is called Grace Petrie and according to the Guardian she was hailed as “a powerful new songwriting voice” in 2011
I think that's Guardian speak for st.
Here she is giving it her all:






If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 12th December 12:22

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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biggbn said:
andymadmak said:
BOR said:
Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.
Poisoned the air? How about a baseless claim that the Conservatives are selling the NHS to the Americans (whatever that actually means) ? How about sending out election materials that imply you'll have to pay for cancer treatments and such like? And Labours evidence? A document that actually doesn't say what you claim it does, sent to you by your friends in Russia?

And you have the absolute gall to accuse a poster of poisoning the air for having the temerity to point out Corbyn's record? - A record which is easily verifiable from a multitude of credible sources?
The only poison round here is Labour and its supporters. Nasty, violent, abusive, intolerant, delusional, dangerous, anti semitic, ignorant and filled with jealousy, envy and bile. God help us if we wake up to PM Corbyn tomorrow. People like you and he are the real danger to our society.
You should surely have used 'some labour supporters' there?
I think that this evening when the results start coming in it will be apparent that there are far fewer Labour supporters than anyone thought there were. So perhaps "most" rather than "some" is a better descriptor?

Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I think this falling across the end of term time for universities and the weather might hit the Labour vote.

djohnson

3,430 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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S1KRR said:


He's not easy to like though.
McDonnell is in my view the most vile and odious politician out there today. He’s also deeply deeply dangerous. It’s obvious that his current ‘reasonable chap’ act is just that, an act. You can virtually see the slavering wolf behind the sheep outfit. If he got into power he’d be far more extreme and ruthless than either his current assumed persona or the manifesto suggests. Even when the country was gripped with union led chaos, economic decline and falling living standards he’d still regard it as a job well done and progress. He’s an extremist man of protest not a man of responsibility and would bring the UK to its knees. Hope and pray that 24 hours from now he’s not running round Westminster tying to agree a coalition off the back of a hung parliament, once this ruthless extremist has power it’ll take a civil war to get him / his organisation out again.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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techiedave said:
I mentioned a Labour Rally last night broadcast on BBC Parliament. In it they secured the services of a Billy Bragg type singer.
She is called Grace Petrie and according to the Guardian she was hailed as “a powerful new songwriting voice” in 2011
I think that's Guardian speak for st.
Here she is giving it her all:






If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22
What a dish...

BOR

4,702 posts

255 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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techiedave said:
If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22
Food Banks ?

Stagnant wages growth ?

Great swathes of the country turnig into industrial wastelands?

Powerfully builts trousering 100 million bonuses for doing their job?

An NHS on its knees?

Tax cuts for people who need tax cuts the absolute least?

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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BOR said:
techiedave said:
If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22
Food Banks ?

Stagnant wages growth ?

Great swathes of the country turnig into industrial wastelands?

Powerfully builts trousering 100 million bonuses for doing their job?

An NHS on its knees?

Tax cuts for people who need tax cuts the absolute least?
Tell you what, answer the questions I put to you in my post at 11.59 and I'll answer yours wink