Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

[Burwood]

Mothersruin said:

techiedave said:

I mentioned a Labour Rally last night broadcast on BBC Parliament. In it they secured the services of a Billy Bragg type singer.
She is called Grace Petrie and according to the Guardian she was hailed as “a powerful new songwriting voice” in 2011
I think that's Guardian speak for st.
Here she is giving it her all:






If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22

What a dish...

Here's our Grace today, sporting a pair of Chesterfield earrings . All class

[Dont like rolls]

BOR said:

techiedave said:

If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22

Food Banks ?

Stagnant wages growth ?

Great swathes of the country turnig into industrial wastelands?

Powerfully builts trousering 100 million bonuses for doing their job?

An NHS on its knees?

Tax cuts for people who need tax cuts the absolute least?

BURN the Jews !...oops sorry, we disagree with Israel.

Added one for you

[Mothersruin]

BOR said:

techiedave said:

If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22

Food Banks ?

Stagnant wages growth ?

Great swathes of the country turnig into industrial wastelands?

Powerfully builts trousering 100 million bonuses for doing their job?

An NHS on its knees?

Tax cuts for people who need tax cuts the absolute least?

I hate the poor, they smell, always look ill because they have to rely on that stty NHS, eat st that they get for free and are always fking moaning.

[andymadmak]

biggbn said:

You should surely have used 'some labour supporters' there?

Perhaps, but then again

Which party turns a blind eye to its supporters tearing down other party's posters across the country?
Which party's supporters think it's OK to throw acid on those with opposing views?
Which party's supporters think it's Ok to throw milkshakes and such like on those with opposing views?
Which party's supporters think it's OK to spit on those with opposing views?
Which party's supporters regularly refer to those opposing them as 'scum'?
Which party's supporters boasted about wanting to dance on the grave of a former leader of those with opposing views?
Which party is actually being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights commission for anti semitism?
Which party and its supporters have repeatedly tried to make political capital out of the awful murder of Jo Cox?
Which party tries to scare ordinary folk with scare stories about the NHS at EVERY election? (This most recent example being particularly egregious)
Which party deliberately conflates the terms absolute poverty and relative poverty, in order to sell their lie that millions are living in absolute poverty in the UK?
Which party's leader was heavily involved with London Labour Briefing - a hard-left magazine which celebrated the Brighton bomb and joked about the death of Conservative MPs?
Which party's supporters elected Jeremy Corbyn as their leader?

[Digga]

BOR said:

Food Banks ?

Stagnant wages growth ?

Great swathes of the country turnig into industrial wastelands?

Powerfully builts trousering 100 million bonuses for doing their job?

An NHS on its knees?

Tax cuts for people who need tax cuts the absolute least?

Food banks: in and of themselves, their existence proves little. Of course the hard-up will resort to them, if they are available. There may or may not be problems, but these did not occur overnight.

Wages: here's why: ttps://www.nestpensions.org.uk/schemeweb/NestWeb/public/helpcentre/contents/what-are-the-upcoming-changes-to-minimum-contributions.html

NHS on it's knees. Well yes, but a good part of that is due to inefficiency and also the abject lack of control of immigration. No one actually knows what population the NHS is supposed to be catering for, because since open borders, it's been growing un-managed.

It's Labour in wales that, through their opposition of an alternative to the M4 Brynglass tunnels at Newport, despite the Severn now having [i[twi]two[/i] operational crossings, are consigning the region to the scrapheap by increasing it's disconnect from the rest of the economy. Wastelands are, in any case, often a symptom of wider industrial change. No one has a job for life comrade.

But we see, in the 100million comment, the nature of the bile - the politics of envy.

[Burwood]

Digga said:

BOR said:

Food Banks ?

Stagnant wages growth ?

Great swathes of the country turnig into industrial wastelands?

Powerfully builts trousering 100 million bonuses for doing their job?

An NHS on its knees?

Tax cuts for people who need tax cuts the absolute least?

Food banks: in and of themselves, their existence proves little. Of course the hard-up will resort to them, if they are available. There may or may not be problems, but these did not occur overnight.

Wages: here's why: ttps://www.nestpensions.org.uk/schemeweb/NestWeb/public/helpcentre/contents/what-are-the-upcoming-changes-to-minimum-contributions.html

NHS on it's knees. Well yes, but a good part of that is due to inefficiency and also the abject lack of control of immigration. No one actually knows what population the NHS is supposed to be catering for, because since open borders, it's been growing un-managed.

It's Labour in wales that, through their opposition of an alternative to the M4 Brynglass tunnels at Newport, despite the Severn now having [i[twi]two[/i] operational crossings, are consigning the region to the scrapheap by increasing it's disconnect from the rest of the economy. Wastelands are, in any case, often a symptom of wider industrial change. No one has a job for life comrade.

But we see, in the 100million comment, the nature of the bile - the politics of envy.

And around £50M of that bonus is paid in taxes.

[C.A.R.]

BOR said:

techiedave said:

If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22

Food Banks ?

I have an unpopular opinion on food banks. They weren't prevalent until "advertised" by featuring in the news. Then lo and behold, they became increasingly popular. Single mothers with 7 kids and an iphone picking up free tins of beans. There's definitely a need for them - but they're not the direct result of any government measures.

BOR said:

Stagnant wages growth ?

Not for me in the private sector? Increases year-on-year, sometimes in line with inflation sometimes not.

BOR said:

Great swathes of the country turnig into industrial wastelands?

Where? Warehousing costs are at some of the highest they have been in years, especially in London catchment areas. This suggests the need for industry and materials storage are at odds with your observations.

BOR said:

Powerfully builts trousering 100 million bonuses for doing their job?

You'll need to be more specific on that. There will always be winners and losers in terms of earners - this won't change with a different government in power. Those successful high earners will still be successful high earners. Take away that ability and you take away the ambition for hard workers at the moment.

BOR said:

An NHS on its knees?

As it has always been. "Let's throw more money at it! That'll solve things". NHS is a black hole in major need of reform. Note that wording. It doesn't suggest "flogging it", but streamlining it and making it more viable will benefit the users and the workers. Introducing competition to reduce costs can only be a positive.

BOR said:

Tax cuts for people who need tax cuts the absolute least?

See note above RE ambition. Tax high earners more and they'll just be paid more to compensate for the loss in tax. The money to cover this will come from lower down by streamlining operations (automating lesser jobs etc) or increases to services / goods costs. It'll all balance out ultimately, such is capitalism.

[Legend83]

Can someone post a link to the Twitter page that debunked Labour's "making families £6,500 better off" pledge please?

[Oakey]

BOR going on about foodbanks when Germany has had foodbanks since 1993, as does France since 1994.

[Dr Jekyll]

Oakey said:

BOR going on about foodbanks when Germany has had foodbanks since 1993, as does France since 1994.

To be fair Venezuela doesn't. Which JC no doubt treats as a sign of success,

[vaud]

Dr Jekyll said:

To be fair Venezuela doesn't. Which JC no doubt treats as a sign of success,

Doesn't have a functioning democracy, low inflation, medicines, etc either

[Garvin]

Dr Jekyll said:

To be fair Venezuela doesn't. Which JC no doubt treats as a sign of success,

That’s because absolutely nobody in Venezuela has ant spare food anymore to put in a food bank.

[Munter]

I thought foodbanks were the population doing what's needed.

If we the people can organise ourselves to support the needy then tax doesn't need to be spent on that, and we can spend more on the NHS etc.

Why would Labour supporters want to take money from the NHS to replace foodbanks? Why don't Labour voters care about the NHS like the rest of us?

[AJL308]

Graveworm said:

I think this falling across the end of term time for universities and the weather might hit the Labour vote.

Or perhaps them being economically illiterate racists might have a similar effect?

[Munter]

AJL308 said:

Graveworm said:

I think this falling across the end of term time for universities and the weather might hit the Labour vote.

Or perhaps them being economically illiterate racists might have a similar effect?

I think you've gone a bit hard on students there AJL

[anonymous-user]

BOR said:

Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.

I hope people think about your mud flinging as they go past yet another food bank on their way to vote and think about what else your sort have lied about.

Says the nasty little trot who has been binned and banned multiple times for telling people to go kill themselves.

[anonymous-user]

Digga said:

ood banks: in and of themselves, their existence proves little. Of course the hard-up will resort to them, if they are available. There may or may not be problems, but these did not occur overnight.

No. You can't just go to a food bank and get free food, you have to be referred. Someone has to check you really can't afford your own food.

[anonymous-user]

Munter said:

I thought foodbanks were the population doing what's needed.

Decent jobs are what the population needs. No more zero hour contracts or poverty wages. The majority of people on benefits and using food banks are actually in work.

[BOR]

Munter said:

I thought foodbanks were the population doing what's needed.

If we the people can organise ourselves to support the needy then tax doesn't need to be spent on that, and we can spend more on the NHS etc.

Why would Labour supporters want to take money from the NHS to replace foodbanks? Why don't Labour voters care about the NHS like the rest of us?

Or tax cuts for everybody?

Or tax cuts for the 1% ?

Hmm. Let me guess.

[Digga]

fblm said:

BOR said:

Your post is total st and typical of the empty rhetoric Tory shills like you have poisoned the air with.

I hope people think about your mud flinging as they go past yet another food bank on their way to vote and think about what else your sort have lied about.

Says the nasty little trot who has been binned and banned multiple times for telling people to go kill themselves.

Poor BORrock. It must be tough being an engine designer in Munich when the EU and their government have decided to kill the auto industry in favour of building golf karts. No wonder he's bitter.

kuro68k said:

Digga said:

ood banks: in and of themselves, their existence proves little. Of course the hard-up will resort to them, if they are available. There may or may not be problems, but these did not occur overnight.

No. You can't just go to a food bank and get free food, you have to be referred. Someone has to check you really can't afford your own food.

I appreciate that, but qualification even being the case (and on what merits) the fact remains if there is no food bank present (as there may well not be in many areas) then no one can use it. Shrodinger's food bank.