Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

[Digga]

andymadmak said:

biggbn said:

andymadmak said:

biggbn said:

You should surely have used 'some labour supporters' there?

Perhaps, but then again

Which party turns a blind eye to its supporters tearing down other party's posters across the country?
Which party's supporters think it's OK to throw acid on those with opposing views?
Which party's supporters think it's Ok to throw milkshakes and such like on those with opposing views?
Which party's supporters think it's OK to spit on those with opposing views?
Which party's supporters regularly refer to those opposing them as 'scum'?
Which party's supporters boasted about wanting to dance on the grave of a former leader of those with opposing views?
Which party is actually being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights commission for anti semitism?
Which party and its supporters have repeatedly tried to make political capital out of the awful murder of Jo Cox?
Which party tries to scare ordinary folk with scare stories about the NHS at EVERY election? (This most recent example being particularly egregious)
Which party deliberately conflates the terms absolute poverty and relative poverty, in order to sell their lie that millions are living in absolute poverty in the UK?
Which party's leader was heavily involved with London Labour Briefing - a hard-left magazine which celebrated the Brighton bomb and joked about the death of Conservative MPs?
Which party's supporters elected Jeremy Corbyn as their leader?

It would be so easy to write a riposte to that but I reckon we both know it would be pointless. My world has subtlety and nuance, yours seems binary. If that works for you that's cool. I support many labour socialist ideals, but I do not support the things you mention, just as I do not for one minute think every Tory supporter would act in the way of the list I'm not going to waste my time with. I cannot, and will not, be forced to vote for any party that does not deserve my vote. Unfortunately, that stance excludes both Tory and labour parties at this time, such is the ineptitude of their leadership

Fair point, well taken, and yes of course I am being more binary than is sensible or normal for me. Part of that is in response to BOR et al with their typically insulting attitudes to Conservatives.
My neighbour votes Labour, and we get on like a house on fire. She also would deplore all the behaviours I list above. But the sad fact is that every thing I have listed is a feature of too many Labour supporters, and it's pretty widespread. Tory scum? Whenever would that ever be considered acceptable? And yet social media is full of it..

Apropos of this, I think it right also to point out, there are a quite a few Labour politicians - like Ian Austin - who, at this precise moment, advocate their constituents not to vote Labour but to vote Conservative. That must be a very difficult call to have made and I have a huge amount of respect for their stance. They are the sort of people I hope will be back at the vanguard of the party when the Momentum grip is loosened.

[NoddyonNitrous]

CambsBill said:

kuro68k said:

Decent jobs are what the population needs. No more zero hour contracts or poverty wages. The majority of people on benefits and using food banks are actually in work.

Nonsense. SWMBO is currently on two zero hours contracts, both in jobs she enjoys doing (one is outdoorsy so depends on the season) but both giving her the flexibility to say she's not available whenever she likes. Last thing she wants is to have to stick to rigid hours.

I am on a ZHC. Work offers me work, and I say yay or nay as suits. I do not depend on the income from it though, I can imagine it being stty if you did.

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NoddyonNitrous said:

I am on a ZHC. Work offers me work, and I say yay or nay as suits. I do not depend on the income from it though, I can imagine it being stty if you did.

Underemployment is a massive problem in the UK.

2/3 people on benefits are in work. Most people using food banks have a job.

[anonymous-user]

BOR said:

Nope. Your recall is as flawed as your character. Posts deleted. Not banned. Maybe you should go and have a lie down now.

Well my posts have not been binned, unlike yours laughing at someone who has comitted suicide and telling other to do so, so feel free to quote me otherwise run along you poisonous little momentum troll.

[Dr Jekyll]

kuro68k said:

Underemployment is a massive problem in the UK.

2/3 people on benefits are in work. Most people using food banks have a job.

That's what happens with low unemployment, even people who currently have low skills or experience can at least get some kind of job.

[Agammemnon]

kuro68k said:

No more zero hour contracts

May I enquire as to whom exactly you think you are to decide how I may or may not earn my living?

I'm happy, my clients are happy & it's nobody else's business, including yours or Corbyn's.

[Brave Fart]

Agammemnon said:

kuro68k said:

No more zero hour contracts

May I enquire as to whom exactly you think you are to decide how I may or may not earn my living?

I'm happy, my clients are happy & it's nobody else's business, including yours or Corbyn's.

I agree with this and would add that the "ban zero hours contracts" is a typical example of Labour's desire to extend state influence. My son is a student and works a few hours each week at our local pizza company outlet. It suits him, and them. Why ban it then?
If the government insisted that everyone worked minimum hours either he wouldn't want to, or his employer would withdraw the job.
Since when was flexible working a bad thing, Jeremy?

[Burwood]

Agammemnon said:

kuro68k said:

No more zero hour contracts

May I enquire as to whom exactly you think you are to decide how I may or may not earn my living?

I'm happy, my clients are happy & it's nobody else's business, including yours or Corbyn's.

Labour promised to ban them when they came to power. They never did. They work perfectly well with the exception of a few rotten apples and are in fact necessary in many industries. In reality they have been around for decades in one form or another.

It's nothing more than an exploitative myth lept on by the hard left. Kuro is simply reciting the Momentum red book.

[nikaiyo2]

techiedave said:

If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22

Looks like a constipated Stringfellow Hawke having a poo.

[Tycho]

Burwood said:

Agammemnon said:

kuro68k said:

No more zero hour contracts

May I enquire as to whom exactly you think you are to decide how I may or may not earn my living?

I'm happy, my clients are happy & it's nobody else's business, including yours or Corbyn's.

Labour promised to ban them when they came to power. They never did. They work perfectly well with the exception of a few rotten apples and are in fact necessary in many industries. In reality they have been around for decades in one form or another.

It's nothing more than an exploitative myth lept on by the hard left. Kuro is simply reciting the Momentum red book.

Don’t the Labour Party themselves use zero hours?

[anonymous-user]

Legend83 said:

Can someone post a link to the Twitter page that debunked Labour's "making families £6,500 better off" pledge please?

https://twitter.com/rcolvile/status/1202183745169690624

An excellent step by step dismantling - the author is openly pro-conservative, but the analysis seems good

[Burwood]

Tycho said:

Burwood said:

Agammemnon said:

kuro68k said:

No more zero hour contracts

May I enquire as to whom exactly you think you are to decide how I may or may not earn my living?

I'm happy, my clients are happy & it's nobody else's business, including yours or Corbyn's.

Labour promised to ban them when they came to power. They never did. They work perfectly well with the exception of a few rotten apples and are in fact necessary in many industries. In reality they have been around for decades in one form or another.

It's nothing more than an exploitative myth lept on by the hard left. Kuro is simply reciting the Momentum red book.

Don’t the Labour Party themselves use zero hours?

Diane Abbott is on record calling for tough sentences for people who assault police. And using Public Schools. Hypocrisy isn't a word they understand.

[Mothersruin]

nikaiyo2 said:

techiedave said:

If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by techiedave on Thursday 12th December 12:22

Looks like a constipated Stringfellow Hawke having a poo.

Did anyone get my dish, joke? Petrie di.. ah forget it...

[NoddyonNitrous]

kuro68k said:

Underemployment is a massive problem in the UK.

2/3 people on benefits are in work. Most people using food banks have a job.

Not as bad as Spain/Portugal! What is it there, 25% youth unemployment?
And yes, I do see the difference between underemployment of individuals and unemployment. Which is worse though?

[anonymous-user]

Mothersruin said:

Did anyone get my dish, joke? Petrie di.. ah forget it...

I DID
I thought it was witty and subtle - the sort of thing you get on QI.

nikaiyo2 said:

techiedave said:

If that doesn't inspire you to vote Labour what can ?

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 12th December 12:22

Looks like a constipated Stringfellow Hawke having a poo.

Stringfellow Hawke - airwolf himself !
Funnily enough I spent a daft hour watching some episodes of Airwolf on TV - quite good for its age

[230TE]

Agammemnon said:

kuro68k said:

No more zero hour contracts

May I enquire as to whom exactly you think you are to decide how I may or may not earn my living?

I'm happy, my clients are happy & it's nobody else's business, including yours or Corbyn's.

If I offer a prospective employee a guaranteed 1 hour's work per week plus extra as required will that be enough to get round the ZHC ban? If not, what does Labour think is the minimum number of hours per week I am actually allowed to employ someone for? 10? 20? 30?

[anonymous-user]

wsurfa said:

https://twitter.com/rcolvile/status/12021837451696...

An excellent step by step dismantling - the author is openly pro-conservative, but the analysis seems good

Clearly someone is not economically illiterate in Labour. Even more the pity then that they are using their talents to deceive those who can not see this drivel for what it is. There used to be a time when Labour stood for the working man. No longer it seems.

[Burwood]

What do you think Corbyn is doing now. I reckon laughing his ass off, writing his resignation.

[Burwood]

Lololol-eat st jezza

[Munter]

Ouch BBC exit poll...nasty.