Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

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Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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El stovey said:
I think he means he’s a campaigner for stuff rather than a politician.

I too thought It was a bit odd when he said it.

He was pretty accepting of Marr’s brutal assessment of labour’s failure though. I thought anyway.

Looks like he’s still planning on trying to keep “the project” going which is presumably the momentum far left politics.
He did not accept in ANY way he/his ste plans/his politics were to blame. LOOK at him, he is convinced that lesser thinkers are stupid and cannot see his perfect vision.

Watch the worm try and cash in on Climate Change, I think Greta has another "exploiter" to assist her cause.


AJL308

6,390 posts

157 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Blackpuddin said:
From the BBC:
Former Labour MP Caroline Flint - who lost her seat on Thursday - placed much of the blame at the leadership's door. She also told Sky's Sophy Ridge that "ardent Remainers" in the party, such as shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer and shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, "contributed to sacrificing" seats, with the "balance in voices" going too far away from Leave voters.
She accused Ms Thornberry of telling one her colleagues from a Brexit-backing area: "I'm glad my constituents aren't as stupid as yours." Ms Thornberry has not yet responded to the comment.

Sounds about right.
Better yet, 'Jess Phillips Esquire' as she oddly terms herself is in the running for the top job along with Angela Naybrains.
Isn't that a male suffix?

Vanden Saab

14,131 posts

75 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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AJL308 said:
Blackpuddin said:
From the BBC:
Former Labour MP Caroline Flint - who lost her seat on Thursday - placed much of the blame at the leadership's door. She also told Sky's Sophy Ridge that "ardent Remainers" in the party, such as shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer and shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, "contributed to sacrificing" seats, with the "balance in voices" going too far away from Leave voters.
She accused Ms Thornberry of telling one her colleagues from a Brexit-backing area: "I'm glad my constituents aren't as stupid as yours." Ms Thornberry has not yet responded to the comment.

Sounds about right.
Better yet, 'Jess Phillips Esquire' as she oddly terms herself is in the running for the top job along with Angela Naybrains.
Isn't that a male suffix?
It used to be but esquire is now gender neutral... laugh but it should never used when addressing yourself...Only other people...

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Corbyn is probably boiling with rage that he got played. Who do you apologise to?
The stance on brexit done them in and he had his arm twisted to go that way.
The only consolation is he can laugh about the fact we are leaving the EU anyway which you suspect he was ok with himself.
As for that vote in tony bliars old constituancy it just shows how much influence the closet tory has with people there.
You suspect corbyn is happier being a voice of protest so he has a lot to get on with over the next few years.

surveyor

17,845 posts

185 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Fundoreen said:
Corbyn is probably boiling with rage that he got played. Who do you apologise to?
The stance on brexit done them in and he had his arm twisted to go that way.
The only consolation is he can laugh about the fact we are leaving the EU anyway which you suspect he was ok with himself.
As for that vote in tony bliars old constituancy it just shows how much influence the closet tory has with people there.
You suspect corbyn is happier being a voice of protest so he has a lot to get on with over the next few years.
Perhaps to the numerous MP's who lost their job...

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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surveyor said:
Fundoreen said:
Corbyn is probably boiling with rage that he got played. Who do you apologise to?
The stance on brexit done them in and he had his arm twisted to go that way.
The only consolation is he can laugh about the fact we are leaving the EU anyway which you suspect he was ok with himself.
As for that vote in tony bliars old constituancy it just shows how much influence the closet tory has with people there.
You suspect corbyn is happier being a voice of protest so he has a lot to get on with over the next few years.
Perhaps to the numerous MP's who lost their job...
He probably spoke to them all in private.

turbobloke

104,021 posts

261 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
He did not accept in ANY way he/his ste plans/his politics were to blame. LOOK at him, he is convinced that lesser thinkers are stupid and cannot see his perfect vision.

Watch the worm try and cash in on Climate Change, I think Greta has another "exploiter" to assist her cause.
No shortage there - and he would fit in well.

Meanwhile here's hoping for another momentum-type leader. Most of the remaining MPs are on-side, the rest were 'managed' or jumped ship. This wouldl be a positive factor in Boris's second term.

easytiger123

2,595 posts

210 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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I wonder if Jezza will now cash in and write his memoirs?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Tony427 said:
Dont like rolls said:
CoolHands said:
Jess Philips? vomit she’s just thrown her hat into the ring! People want her to, apparently

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/13/la...
Now that would be funny, she is even thicker than Corbyn.
Her accent is as fake as her principles. She is not as thick as her manufactured accent would suggest. King Edwards school Camp Hill does not take or put up with thickos and girls don't leave there sounding like Ossy Osbourne. .

She is no working class Brummie. She came from a privileged middle class background, never had a proper job, used womens issues as a means to get a profile and is not averse to milking the parliamentary expenses to provide a nice cushy job for her hubby.

Fake as fake can be.
More info from wiki. Just what Labour needs, another grammar school pupil with well off champagne socialist parents. No doubt Mrs Overall wants to deny to others the opportunity afforded her. Straight out of the Corbyn playbook. Pathetic.



“The youngest of four children, Phillips is the daughter of Stewart Trainor, a teacher, and Jean Trainor (née Mackay), who was deputy chief executive of the NHS Confederation and chair of South Birmingham Mental Health Trust.[4][5][6] They were politically active: "Growing up with my father was like growing up with Jeremy Corbyn" she told Rachel Cooke of The Observer in March 2016.[7] Phillips went to King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Girls, a local grammar school.[7][8] Her childhood ambition was to become Prime Minister.[7”

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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went to eton. acted like the class clown.never did any work.
Now thats a résumé . Do labour have someone of this mighty ilk?

768

13,707 posts

97 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Fundoreen said:
went to eton. acted like the class clown.never did any work.
Now thats a résumé . Do labour have someone of this mighty ilk?
Results just in this week, it's a no.

pingu393

7,824 posts

206 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Fundoreen said:
went to eton. acted like the class clown.never did any work.
Now thats a résumé . Do labour have someone of this mighty ilk?
To act the clown, not do any work, yet get into Oxford University takes some serious brains.

Do we know what his A Level grades were, or even his Uni grading?

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

59 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
To act the clown, not do any work, yet get into Oxford University takes some serious brains.

Do we know what his A Level grades were, or even his Uni grading?
Upper second.

pingu393

7,824 posts

206 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Agammemnon said:
Upper second.
Surprised at that. I expected it to be a Geoffrey, but a 2:1 isn't too shoddy if he did no work for it. Do Oxbridge issue 3rds or Ordinaries?

What about the 'A' levels?

A degree can be based on knowledge of the person, as the dissertation is marked by your tutors. Most 'A' Levels were totally anonymous in that the marker had no knowledge of the candidate.

psi310398

9,130 posts

204 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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Agammemnon said:
pingu393 said:
To act the clown, not do any work, yet get into Oxford University takes some serious brains.

Do we know what his A Level grades were, or even his Uni grading?
Upper second.
There are lots of things you can lay at BJ's door but he is clearly not deficient in the brains department.

He was an Eton King's Scholar (which can be, and is, ruthlessly removed in cases of poor academic performance). The Brackenbury Scholarship he won at Balliol is one of the most prestigious at Oxford and is not handed out with the rations. (A godfather of mine who was a pioneer of the nuclear facility at Harwell, and one of the most formidably intelligent men I have ever known, was one.)

I am also fairly convinced that the scatty, essay crisis air he affects is precisely that - an affectation. He is actually a workaholic but has calculated that he will get further by allowing people to under-estimate him, and he has been lethally successful so far...

turbobloke

104,021 posts

261 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
Fundoreen said:
went to eton. acted like the class clown.never did any work.
Now thats a résumé . Do labour have someone of this mighty ilk?
To act the clown, not do any work, yet get into Oxford University takes some serious brains.

Do we know what his A Level grades were, or even his Uni grading?
FWIW he won a scholarship to Eton. Can't find A-level grades but his performance - excelling in English and Classics - won him the prestigious Newcastle Prize (at Eton). His academic success at Eton resulted in a place at Balliol College, Oxford, where he studied Classics (Literae Humaniores?) in which he obtained a 2:1 degree. Some other politicians follow, though Blair isn't listed as apparently he keeps his A-level grades secret, which is his prerogative.
JC managed EE at A-level
CMD got AAA
Gordon Brown allegedly got AAAA
David Miliband BBBD
Ed Miliband AABB
John Major has 6 O-levels, 3 obtained at school

psi310398

9,130 posts

204 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
Surprised at that. I expected it to be a Geoffrey, but a 2:1 isn't too shoddy if he did no work for it. Do Oxbridge issue 3rds or Ordinaries?

What about the 'A' levels?

A degree can be based on knowledge of the person, as the dissertation is marked by your tutors. Most 'A' Levels were totally anonymous in that the marker had no knowledge of the candidate.
In my time the second wasn't split. I think that changed in 1983.

At Oxford, as well as a First, 2.1 or 2.2, you can get a Third, a pass degree or an aegrotat (essentially a pass for being ill). (I think Frank Bough was the last person to get a Fourth.)

There was no dissertation required for most degrees at Oxford when I was there (overlapping with BJ) and it is highly unlikely that his papers were marked and then moderated by people who knew him.

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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turbobloke said:
FWIW he won a scholarship to Eton. Can't find A-level grades but his performance - excelling in English and Classics - won him the prestigious Newcastle Prize (at Eton). His academic success at Eton resulted in a place at Balliol College, Oxford, where he studied Classics (Literae Humaniores?) in which he obtained a 2:1 degree. Some other politicians follow, though Blair isn't listed as apparently he keeps his A-level grades secret, which is his prerogative.
JC managed EE at A-level
CMD got AAA
Gordon Brown allegedly got AAAA
David Miliband BBBD
Ed Miliband AABB
John Major has 6 O-levels, 3 obtained at school
Unless someone did extremely badly (showing they are below even average intelligence), I don’t see the relevance of A-levels when the person is in their 50s!

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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ORD said:
turbobloke said:
FWIW he won a scholarship to Eton. Can't find A-level grades but his performance - excelling in English and Classics - won him the prestigious Newcastle Prize (at Eton). His academic success at Eton resulted in a place at Balliol College, Oxford, where he studied Classics (Literae Humaniores?) in which he obtained a 2:1 degree. Some other politicians follow, though Blair isn't listed as apparently he keeps his A-level grades secret, which is his prerogative.
JC managed EE at A-level
CMD got AAA
Gordon Brown allegedly got AAAA
David Miliband BBBD
Ed Miliband AABB
John Major has 6 O-levels, 3 obtained at school
Unless someone did extremely badly (showing they are below even average intelligence), I don’t see the relevance of A-levels when the person is in their 50s!
One of the brightest people I know did extremely badly, two Cs. But that was one year of evening classes while working full time. So that should be equivalent to what, BBBB if doing them the usual way?

Smollet

10,618 posts

191 months

Sunday 15th December 2019
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easytiger123 said:
I wonder if Jezza will now cash in and write his memoirs?
How to make jam whilst shagging right old munters and going back on being a life long EU sceptic. Should be a winner