Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

[HD Adam]

Ganglandboss said:

Mobile Chicane said:

Millions unemployed. the economy in tatters, rioting in the streets...

All attributed [thanks to the Lynton Crosby spin-meisters] to any Government under Jeremy Corbyn, yet here we are.

So if we had voted Labour, there would be no global pandemic causing businesses to close?

Of course not.

The Messiah JC would not have allowed China to have a pandemic & would have closed our borders immediately because that was Labour policy.

The economy would have done great, borrowing 500 Billion to nationalise everything before spending money on the furlough,

Last of all, the election of JC would have prevented Minniappolis Cops from kneeling on the neck of George Floyd.

FACT

[motco]

George Smiley said:

Bit of an old video (2019) but possibly the best set up and roast of JC ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVuDnh7Ft4k

Its entertaining from start to finish.

It sounds a bit unlikely in many respects, when observed from June 2020, unfortunately. Cash is going to be a bit short.

[jakesmith]

Mobile Chicane said:

Millions unemployed. the economy in tatters, rioting in the streets...

All attributed [thanks to the Lynton Crosby spin-meisters] to any Government under Jeremy Corbyn, yet here we are.

Does it give you some sort of satisfaction to see people lining up to point out how utterly stupid what you said was? Is the thrill in wasting their time?

[Johnnytheboy]

Report out today on their disastrous performance last December (doesn't it seem like a long time ago!). Not sure the true believers buy it:



Extra point for the Palestinian flag there...

[Legacywr]

Where’s the report?

[SpeckledJim]

Labour still has no left-most boundary. There's nobody so mad-left that they don't fit in the Labour Party at the moment.

Starmer has to erect that boundary, somehow, before he can expect to find any additional support from the middle.

[gazza285]

Johnnytheboy said:

Report out today on their disastrous performance last December (doesn't it seem like a long time ago!). Not sure the true believers buy it:



Extra point for the Palestinian flag there...

I see they still haven't worked out that Corbyn's reputation was already rock bottom with most of those in the parlimentary Labour party before he was elected leader, and his election performance was predicted by a few in 2016. The unwillingness of the far lefties to accept that their ideas are not universally popular is surely delusion bordering on mental illness.

[SpeckledJim]

gazza285 said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Report out today on their disastrous performance last December (doesn't it seem like a long time ago!). Not sure the true believers buy it:



Extra point for the Palestinian flag there...

I see they still haven't worked out that Corbyn's reputation was already rock bottom with most of those in the parlimentary Labour party before he was elected leader, and his election performance was predicted by a few in 2016. The unwillingness of the far lefties to accept that their ideas are not universally popular is surely delusion bordering on mental illness.

It's odd that they can see that fellow party members who are a nudge to the right of them are 'traitors', yet thing that there's sufficient support among the general public who are, on average, in the middle for the most lefty of lefty policies.

If a policy or person is too left to even win backing from the centre of the Labour Party, they stand zero chance with the centre of the country.

[A Winner Is You]

They spent years telling the public they were thick racists for enabling Brexit, and stupid for believing the smears of the media about Corbyn. Yet for some bizarre reason, the public still voted for the Tories. Ungrateful bds.

[djohnson]

768 said:

Yep. Thank fk it wasn't a Corbyn government on top of all this.

He'd have spent everything just before covid turned up.

Had Corbyn and McDonnell got into power Covid would have been manna from heaven for them. They’d have instigated a really lengthy and draconian lockdown, claiming necessity in face of the virus. They wouldn’t however have made much real attempt to save businesses and as business after business failed they’d have replaced them with state provision. Taxation would go through the roof (and likely we’d cross the line from taxation to confiscation) justified by the need to pay for the crisis. Freedoms would be massively restricted in lockdown and many of the powers the state assumed to control the population in this time of crisis would never really be rolled back when it was all over. All in it’d have been a springboard to their naive fantasy of a socialist utopia, with a big state, control over the population and asset stripping the middle classes upwards. This is the path they wanted to follow anyway just faster and with a justification they could point to. Every man, woman and child in the UK should make up every morning and give thanks that Corbyn and McDonnell didn’t get to see the inside of number 10 and 11 Downing Street.

[JagLover]

djohnson said:

Had Corbyn and McDonnell got into power Covid would have been manna from heaven for them. They’d have instigated a really lengthy and draconian lockdown, claiming necessity in face of the virus. They wouldn’t however have made much real attempt to save businesses and as business after business failed they’d have replaced them with state provision. Taxation would go through the roof (and likely we’d cross the line from taxation to confiscation) justified by the need to pay for the crisis. Freedoms would be massively restricted in lockdown and many of the powers the state assumed to control the population in this time of crisis would never really be rolled back when it was all over. All in it’d have been a springboard to their naive fantasy of a socialist utopia, with a big state, control over the population and asset stripping the middle classes upwards. This is the path they wanted to follow anyway just faster and with a justification they could point to. Every man, woman and child in the UK should make up every morning and give thanks that Corbyn and McDonnell didn’t get to see the inside of number 10 and 11 Downing Street.

That is probably, scarily, spot on. Coronavirus would have given them the opportunity to bring in a communist system on the grounds of combating the virus.

We most definitely dodged a bullet in December.

[98elise]

djohnson said:

768 said:

Yep. Thank fk it wasn't a Corbyn government on top of all this.

He'd have spent everything just before covid turned up.

Had Corbyn and McDonnell got into power Covid would have been manna from heaven for them. They’d have instigated a really lengthy and draconian lockdown, claiming necessity in face of the virus. They wouldn’t however have made much real attempt to save businesses and as business after business failed they’d have replaced them with state provision. Taxation would go through the roof (and likely we’d cross the line from taxation to confiscation) justified by the need to pay for the crisis. Freedoms would be massively restricted in lockdown and many of the powers the state assumed to control the population in this time of crisis would never really be rolled back when it was all over. All in it’d have been a springboard to their naive fantasy of a socialist utopia, with a big state, control over the population and asset stripping the middle classes upwards. This is the path they wanted to follow anyway just faster and with a justification they could point to. Every man, woman and child in the UK should make up every morning and give thanks that Corbyn and McDonnell didn’t get to see the inside of number 10 and 11 Downing Street.

You're not far wrong. Labours policies included confiscation of assets with no compensation. The biggest one was taking a 10% share of all listed companies.

[bristolracer]

I heard on the radio yesterday that one of the major problems for them is the Scottish vote.

Without it, they would have to topple people like Rees-Mogg in order to gain enough seats for a majority.

[djohnson]

98elise said:

You're not far wrong. Labours policies included confiscation of assets with no compensation. The biggest one was taking a 10% share of all listed companies.

Agreed. I suspect that there was also a hidden policy plan, had they achieved power, of an immediate and hard hitting raid on wealth. A one off sizeable tax hit on all wealth over a fairly low threshold (pensions, isa, stocks /shares, cash and possibly even less liquid wealth like housing). They’d call it a ‘windfall for the poor’ or some such guff. They’d justify keeping it secret otherwise people would take avoiding action before the election. McDonnell had commented favourably on such a scheme in the past, it’s exactly what Marxism demands. On a couple of occasions McDonnell was pushing very hard to get the civil service to engage with him to get his budget drafted and ready to go well in advance of the election and I suspect it’s because he knew he’d need to get this tax in place before wealth started deserting the UK. Just a suspicion of what was in the ‘shadow manifesto’ we’ll never know now but I’d bet I’m right.

[98elise]

djohnson said:

98elise said:

You're not far wrong. Labours policies included confiscation of assets with no compensation. The biggest one was taking a 10% share of all listed companies.

Agreed. I suspect that there was also a hidden policy plan, had they achieved power, of an immediate and hard hitting raid on wealth. A one off sizeable tax hit on all wealth over a fairly low threshold (pensions, isa, stocks /shares, cash and possibly even less liquid wealth like housing). They’d call it a ‘windfall for the poor’ or some such guff. They’d justify keeping it secret otherwise people would take avoiding action before the election. McDonnell had commented favourably on such a scheme in the past, it’s exactly what Marxism demands. On a couple of occasions McDonnell was pushing very hard to get the civil service to engage with him to get his budget drafted and ready to go well in advance of the election and I suspect it’s because he knew he’d need to get this tax in place before wealth started deserting the UK. Just a suspicion of what was in the ‘shadow manifesto’ we’ll never know now but I’d bet I’m right.

They knew that which is why they were planning capital flight controls.

The right to buy from private landlords would have seen me about 150k out of pocket. Couple that with LVT and the affect on house prices could have very well see me selling at a large loss.

Our plan was evict and sell immediately if Labour got in, but now we're going to exit from UK property in a controlled way. I'm no fan of Boris but he saved me a ton of cash, and bought me time to consider my future. For that I am eternally grateful.

By the time Labour get back into power, I expect to be living in Portugal

[Garvin]

98elise said:

. . . . . . . . .

By the time Labour get back into power, I expect to be living in Portugal

You've probably got 20 years to make the move then

[Hereward]

djohnson said:

...Every man, woman and child in the UK should make up every morning and give thanks that Corbyn and McDonnell didn’t get to see the inside of number 10 and 11 Downing Street.

I do. I still reflect on the night of the election as the results came in and the relief I felt.

[Burwood]

Hereward said:

djohnson said:

...Every man, woman and child in the UK should make up every morning and give thanks that Corbyn and McDonnell didn’t get to see the inside of number 10 and 11 Downing Street.

I do. I still reflect on the night of the election as the results came in and the relief I felt.

December 12th or 13th for the result. happiest day of the year

[jakesmith]

And that’s all without the tarnish of his horrific racism and support for various terror groups too. I consider Corbyn and McDonnel to be amongst the most vile people currently alive.

[djohnson]

98elise said:

They knew that which is why they were planning capital flight controls.

The right to buy from private landlords would have seen me about 150k out of pocket. Couple that with LVT and the affect on house prices could have very well see me selling at a large loss.

Our plan was evict and sell immediately if Labour got in, but now we're going to exit from UK property in a controlled way. I'm no fan of Boris but he saved me a ton of cash, and bought me time to consider my future. For that I am eternally grateful.

By the time Labour get back into power, I expect to be living in Portugal

Absolutely. We had o/seas bank accounts set up last time in readiness. Happily not needed.