Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)

[Burwood]

El stovey said:

nikaiyo2 said:

Who would think that electing a traitorous old communist would lead to election disaster.

And damage the party for years.

Mind you they got a lot more support than I was expecting tbh.

No where near enough and they still think they won . The moral argument

[biggbn]

nikaiyo2 said:

Who would think that electing a traitorous old communist would lead to election disaster.

He did pretty well v May. Totally messed up with vacillating over Brexit. He is a eurosceptic, always has been, he should have stood on those principles rather than gift the election to Boris. Not a strong enough leader was his biggest fault in my eyes.

[A Winner Is You]

For some odd reason, the man who has spent his life campaigning against injustice didn't sign this cross party letter condemning China's ongoing genocide. Must be an admin error.

https://twitter.com/Siobhain_Mc/status/13036088455...

[biggbn]

A Winner Is You said:

For some odd reason, the man who has spent his life campaigning against injustice didn't sign this cross party letter condemning China's ongoing genocide. Must be an admin error.

https://twitter.com/Siobhain_Mc/status/13036088455...

Because he was/is an idealogue incapable of criticising any country that embraced communism or socialism. Kinda sad.

[Burwood]

biggbn said:

A Winner Is You said:

For some odd reason, the man who has spent his life campaigning against injustice didn't sign this cross party letter condemning China's ongoing genocide. Must be an admin error.

https://twitter.com/Siobhain_Mc/status/13036088455...

Because he was/is an idealogue incapable of criticising any country that embraced communism or socialism. Kinda sad.

This. And Mao did more good than harm

[A Winner Is You]

Burwood said:

biggbn said:

A Winner Is You said:

For some odd reason, the man who has spent his life campaigning against injustice didn't sign this cross party letter condemning China's ongoing genocide. Must be an admin error.

https://twitter.com/Siobhain_Mc/status/13036088455...

Because he was/is an idealogue incapable of criticising any country that embraced communism or socialism. Kinda sad.

This. And Mao did more good than harm

Next you'll be telling me he's a typical left wing hypocrite who only cares about what happens abroad if it involves Trump or Israel.

[SpeckledJim]

biggbn said:

nikaiyo2 said:

Who would think that electing a traitorous old communist would lead to election disaster.

He did pretty well v May. Totally messed up with vacillating over Brexit. He is a eurosceptic, always has been, he should have stood on those principles rather than gift the election to Boris. Not a strong enough leader was his biggest fault in my eyes.

Genuine question:

What do we think would have happened if he'd have stood up in front of conference in September 2016 and said:

"The EU is a busted flush and we're better off out of it. My Labour Party is for leave."

What would have happened next? Would they have just fked him off straight away? Was there the mechanism to do that? At that point he was pretty popular with the membership.

[djohnson]

SpeckledJim said:

biggbn said:

nikaiyo2 said:

Who would think that electing a traitorous old communist would lead to election disaster.

He did pretty well v May. Totally messed up with vacillating over Brexit. He is a eurosceptic, always has been, he should have stood on those principles rather than gift the election to Boris. Not a strong enough leader was his biggest fault in my eyes.

Genuine question:

What do we think would have happened if he'd have stood up in front of conference in September 2016 and said:

"The EU is a busted flush and we're better off out of it. My Labour Party is for leave."

What would have happened next? Would they have just fked him off straight away? Was there the mechanism to do that? At that point he was pretty popular with the membership.

Corbyn himself was certainly a leaver, look at his voting record, on top of which EU rules would prevent the implementation of some key elements of his naive socialist dream. However he could never come out and say that, his voter support was split between the pro-Brexit north and the remain supporters in London and other areas. Hence why he was trying to occupy the middle group and appeal to both sides. I’m honestly not sure whether coming out on one side of the argument or the other would have improved things for him. I suspect had he come out as pro Brexit what he gained in the north would have been more than he lost in the south but with all the other noise around him (his alliances with vile organisations, the sinister dark shadows behind him Milne, Murray etc, his extremist puppet master McDonnell, the laughable simpletons who occupied his front bench Abbott etc etc) wouldn’t have been enough to put him in government.

Edited by djohnson on Sunday 13th September 08:17

[The Don of Croy]

There was a book published recently with one of the two journalist authors interviewed on the radio, having followed comrade Jezza for years and watched the Momemtum type stuff up close.

One of the nuggets he dropped was that such is Corbyn’s absolute commitment to fairness, justice and equality that he really felt that the Palestinians needed a Labour government (in the UK). Vital to their interests etc.

At that level of disconnect it would be hard to see how he could find the time to run the UK.

Or batst mental.

[ORD]

The Don of Croy said:

There was a book published recently with one of the two journalist authors interviewed on the radio, having followed comrade Jezza for years and watched the Momemtum type stuff up close.

One of the nuggets he dropped was that such is Corbyn’s absolute commitment to fairness, justice and equality that he really felt that the Palestinians needed a Labour government (in the UK). Vital to their interests etc.

At that level of disconnect it would be hard to see how he could find the time to run the UK.

Or batst mental.

There are many millions of people in as awful (and even worse) situations all over the world. It is strange, isn't it, that the Palestinians are so important to the hard left? Their suffering gets hugely disproportionate attention.

It is not hard to work out why.

[A Winner Is You]

ORD said:

The Don of Croy said:

There was a book published recently with one of the two journalist authors interviewed on the radio, having followed comrade Jezza for years and watched the Momemtum type stuff up close.

One of the nuggets he dropped was that such is Corbyn’s absolute commitment to fairness, justice and equality that he really felt that the Palestinians needed a Labour government (in the UK). Vital to their interests etc.

At that level of disconnect it would be hard to see how he could find the time to run the UK.

Or batst mental.

There are many millions of people in as awful (and even worse) situations all over the world. It is strange, isn't it, that the Palestinians are so important to the hard left? Their suffering gets hugely disproportionate attention.

It is not hard to work out why.

He must be seething about the recent peace deals, and UAE condemning Palestine

[jakesmith]

A Winner Is You said:

ORD said:

The Don of Croy said:

There was a book published recently with one of the two journalist authors interviewed on the radio, having followed comrade Jezza for years and watched the Momemtum type stuff up close.

One of the nuggets he dropped was that such is Corbyn’s absolute commitment to fairness, justice and equality that he really felt that the Palestinians needed a Labour government (in the UK). Vital to their interests etc.

At that level of disconnect it would be hard to see how he could find the time to run the UK.

Or batst mental.

There are many millions of people in as awful (and even worse) situations all over the world. It is strange, isn't it, that the Palestinians are so important to the hard left? Their suffering gets hugely disproportionate attention.

It is not hard to work out why.

He must be seething about the recent peace deals, and UAE condemning Palestine

It's the upside to Trump's Nobel Peace Prize nomination and in fact would make his wining it worthwhile!

[BlackLabel]

Corbyn launches new 'peace and human rights' project to 'bring people together'.

“ Announcing his new organisation, Mr Corbyn, 71, echoed slogans he deployed during his four-and-a-half-years at Labour's helm.

He said: “The aim of the Peace and Justice Project will be to bring people together, for social justice, peace and human rights, in Britain and across the world.

“It’s there to create space, hope and opportunity for those campaigning for social justice and a future that works for the many, not the few.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corb...

[andy43]

The Mirror said:

The project is backed by former National Union of Teachers boss Baroness Christine Blower and Labour backbench MP Zarah Sultana.

It was also endorsed by former Ecuador president Rafael Correa.

Got some big hitters behind it then

[anonymous-user]

andy43 said:

The Mirror said:

The project is backed by former National Union of Teachers boss Baroness Christine Blower and Labour backbench MP Zarah Sultana.

It was also endorsed by former Ecuador president Rafael Correa.

Got some big hitters behind it then

Where’s Agatha Raisin?

[andy43]

garyhun said:

andy43 said:

The Mirror said:

The project is backed by former National Union of Teachers boss Baroness Christine Blower and Labour backbench MP Zarah Sultana.

It was also endorsed by former Ecuador president Rafael Correa.

Got some big hitters behind it then

Where’s Agatha Raisin?

You're clearly not up to date with Currant affairs.

[anonymous-user]

andy43 said:

garyhun said:

andy43 said:

The Mirror said:

The project is backed by former National Union of Teachers boss Baroness Christine Blower and Labour backbench MP Zarah Sultana.

It was also endorsed by former Ecuador president Rafael Correa.

Got some big hitters behind it then

Where’s Agatha Raisin?

You're clearly not up to date with Currant affairs.

That’s just sour grapes.

[bazza white]

Anyone with common sense will avoid JC and any of his projects. He is/should be a poisoned chalice.

[ellroy]

I urge you all to take Mr Corbyn and his excellent new project seriously.

Instead of griping, sniping from the sidelines and generally carping perhaps read what it’s all about? We need this kind of clear visionary politics in the U.K. now, more than ever.

https://projectforpeaceandjustice.com/

[Andy 308GTB]

ellroy said:

I urge you all to take Mr Corbyn and his excellent new project seriously.

Instead of griping, sniping from the sidelines and generally carping perhaps read what it’s all about? We need this kind of clear visionary politics in the U.K. now, more than ever.

https://projectforpeaceandjustice.com/

I'm in!