Shootings on London Bridge
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
Digga said:
As I said, if you live in middle class surrounds, the likelihood is that all immigrants you live near are also middle class professionals.
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That is not true in large cities. Why do you make this stuff up? ....
In the same way, if you look at the stats for homelessness - a major societal issue - the ethnicity of the homeless also varies, so for example in London there is a fer higher proportion from EU.
Breadvan72 said:
Large cities have most people. Your parochial prejudices may reflect experience of sleepy rural areas or small towns, but some of have travelled further from our computer screens than the local Rotary Club.
Large cities (especially London) are nothing like how the majority of the population lives.........Breadvan72 said:
Large cities have most people. Your parochial prejudices may reflect experience of sleepy rural areas or small towns, but some of have travelled further from our computer screens than the local Rotary Club.
Would that be the 3 years in the quiet fishing hamlet of Cardiff, or the several, on and off, in the quaint rural backwater of south central Manchester?Prejudices? Pot, kettle.
Oh, and Rotary Club. How very dare you.
Supercilious Sid said:
Breadvan72 said:
Large cities have most people.
Even if you take all cities in the UK this is so far from the truth.https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/rural-p...
Mrr T said:
That says the total population of cities and towns is 23m so certainly fewer people live in cities than don't. Almost the same again live in the burbs though so it depends where you want to draw the line.Mrr T said:
Supercilious Sid said:
Breadvan72 said:
Large cities have most people.
Even if you take all cities in the UK this is so far from the truth.https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/rural-p...
Same applies to others where the fact that we end up having racists like Farage setting up companies in order to fleece the susceptible is the fault of liberals and "metro-elites". All this said with a straight face as if it is some sort of accepted wisdom based on empirical evidence.
fblm said:
Mrr T said:
Mrr T said:
That says the total population of cities and towns is 23m so certainly fewer people live in cities than don't. Almost the same again live in the burbs though so it depends where you want to draw the line."Mid-year population 2014
In 2014 the mid-year population estimate (based on Lower Super Output Areas, LSOAs) for England was 54.3 million, of which 9.3 million (17.0 per cent) lived in rural areas and 45.0 million (83.0 per cent) lived in urban areas."
lyonspride said:
There have been over 9000 Islamist terror attacks this year, and only 15 of those was in non-Muslim country, can you guess the ethnicity of the vast majority of the innocent victims of these attacks?
I would say it's a pretty strong indicator that racism has sweet FA to do with terrorism.
Some people just to want to watch the world burn, simple as that.
You do realise that those attacks you mention would in the vast majority be motivated by sectarianism ? I would say it's a pretty strong indicator that racism has sweet FA to do with terrorism.
Some people just to want to watch the world burn, simple as that.
Do you also realise that “Muslim” is not a badge of ethnicity ?
I suspect the answer is no to either.
It is remarkable the extent to which so called realists have a view of the world that is simply unreal. The notion that there is a large and mysterious group of middle class elitists living in hermetically sealed bubble zones where they only ever meet those nice non stabby immigrants is frankly bizarre if you have ever spent any time in a UK city. I get the impression that some of PH's most reactionary and "I am not a racist but..." types may be somewhat elderly and may perhaps live somewhat sheltered lives. Either that, or they live in those compounds reserved for IT experts who spend their time doing weights and filling in companies house forms.
Breadvan72 said:
It is remarkable the extent to which so called realists have a view of the world that is simply unreal. The notion that there is a large and mysterious group of middle class elitists living in hermetically sealed bubble zones where they only ever meet those nice non stabby immigrants is frankly bizarre if you have ever spent any time in a UK city. I get the impression that some of PH's most reactionary and "I am not a racist but..." types may be somewhat elderly and may perhaps live somewhat sheltered lives. Either that, or they live in those compounds reserved for IT experts who spend their time doing weights and filling in companies house forms.
You know clouds have fluffy edges when encountered at close quarter but look like big globs of wet white wool from a distance don't you ?Breadvan72 said:
It is remarkable the extent to which so called realists have a view of the world that is simply unreal. The notion that there is a large and mysterious group of middle class elitists living in hermetically sealed bubble zones where they only ever meet those nice non stabby immigrants is frankly bizarre if you have ever spent any time in a UK city. I get the impression that some of PH's most reactionary and "I am not a racist but..." types may be somewhat elderly and may perhaps live somewhat sheltered lives. Either that, or they live in those compounds reserved for IT experts who spend their time doing weights and filling in companies house forms.
There is a revolving door between gov- BBC- judiciary-Whitehall- media. With mostly centre left views. Hence the confusion with the Brexit vote. They were genuinely shocked that other people don't see things as they do. Mrr T said:
Not sure what you are reading but let me quote:
"Mid-year population 2014
In 2014 the mid-year population estimate (based on Lower Super Output Areas, LSOAs) for England was 54.3 million, of which 9.3 million (17.0 per cent) lived in rural areas and 45.0 million (83.0 per cent) lived in urban areas."
....but the reference was to cities, not urban areas."Mid-year population 2014
In 2014 the mid-year population estimate (based on Lower Super Output Areas, LSOAs) for England was 54.3 million, of which 9.3 million (17.0 per cent) lived in rural areas and 45.0 million (83.0 per cent) lived in urban areas."
Mrr T said:
Not sure what you are reading but let me quote:
"Mid-year population 2014
In 2014 the mid-year population estimate (based on Lower Super Output Areas, LSOAs) for England was 54.3 million, of which 9.3 million (17.0 per cent) lived in rural areas and 45.0 million (83.0 per cent) lived in urban areas."
I'm reading your link, which you obviously didnt! Not all urban areas are cities. Fewer people live in towns and cities than don't, unless you add in the suburbs (conurbations), which would be all urban areas. It's not important but I thought your link was interesting; technically the poster was right."Mid-year population 2014
In 2014 the mid-year population estimate (based on Lower Super Output Areas, LSOAs) for England was 54.3 million, of which 9.3 million (17.0 per cent) lived in rural areas and 45.0 million (83.0 per cent) lived in urban areas."
markcoznottz said:
Breadvan72 said:
It is remarkable the extent to which so called realists have a view of the world that is simply unreal. The notion that there is a large and mysterious group of middle class elitists living in hermetically sealed bubble zones where they only ever meet those nice non stabby immigrants is frankly bizarre if you have ever spent any time in a UK city. I get the impression that some of PH's most reactionary and "I am not a racist but..." types may be somewhat elderly and may perhaps live somewhat sheltered lives. Either that, or they live in those compounds reserved for IT experts who spend their time doing weights and filling in companies house forms.
There is a revolving door between gov- BBC- judiciary-Whitehall- media. With mostly centre left views. Hence the confusion with the Brexit vote. They were genuinely shocked that other people don't see things as they do. Brooking10 said:
lyonspride said:
There have been over 9000 Islamist terror attacks this year, and only 15 of those was in non-Muslim country, can you guess the ethnicity of the vast majority of the innocent victims of these attacks?
I would say it's a pretty strong indicator that racism has sweet FA to do with terrorism.
Some people just to want to watch the world burn, simple as that.
You do realise that those attacks you mention would in the vast majority be motivated by sectarianism ? I would say it's a pretty strong indicator that racism has sweet FA to do with terrorism.
Some people just to want to watch the world burn, simple as that.
Do you also realise that “Muslim” is not a badge of ethnicity ?
I suspect the answer is no to either.
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