Apparently, Young Earth is a thing...

[Eric Mc]

The fact that they think that the purpose of science is to "make up its mind" on things indicates to me that they have a fundamentally flawed view of science and, indeed, of reality.

[RTB]

anonymous said:

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Exactly.

It displays a difference in thinking. Religiously minded people already have the answers (as far as they are concerned). Changing your mind displays a lack of faith and is the worst thing that you can do in their eyes. Rationalists see changing your mind based on evidence as a good thing not a weakness.

[Greeny]

clockworks said:

Not sure how old you are, but that is what I was taught over 50 years ago. Most of it came from my maternal grandmother, and was not contradicted by my parents. Mum's father was an elder, so I assume that what I was taught was what was believed by the cult at the time.

JW teaching may be a little different now, as they have a habit of revising the official line in the face of overwhelming evidence. I have heard that there was a big shake-up when the "end of days" didn't happen in 1975, but I was out well before then.

The next time they knock on my door, I'll ask them. It'll make a change from me blaming their indoctrination for my father's premature death (refusing blood transfusions) and the subsequent family fall-out.

oh, you are old school. 50 years ago was 'the revelation book' and similar deep deep publications. I feel your pain brother !
My understanding is, it is quite different now.
Door to door work is, 'if the answer is no thanks', or words to that effect, move on to the next door, dont engage, the householder has made there view clear.
There is no increase in western world in JW numbers.
Next time they call on you, have a chat, get some updates, if only out of curiosity .
If it starts to get a bit 'de ja vue' , just tell them, enough is enough, and they should leave. Be aware, with data protection laws now in place, no written records of your conversation, or anything about you will be kept.

[anonymous-user]

Here’s all you need to know about James Tour:

“When he speaks about his Christianity, Tour becomes emotive: “I believe, fundamentally, that God creates us all.”

Enough said.

[Halb]

seems scientific

[hidetheelephants]

Halb said:

E34-3.2 said:

Are you sure? Just listen or read a few scientific literatures from someone like James Tour and your view on many of those scientifics might be altered.

I am not here to debate but have a look at his profile on wiki and a few of his papers.

Enjoy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tour#A_Scientific_Dissent_From_Darwinism
Isn't this a wedge to get creationism into science?

No doubt a variant of the Intelligent Design horsest.