Surface Transforms Carbon Ceramic brakes in V8 Vantage

Surface Transforms Carbon Ceramic brakes in V8 Vantage

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JohnG1

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3,471 posts

205 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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https://surfacetransforms.com/aston-martin-brake-k...

Anyone fitted these to a 4.3 or 4.7 V8 Vantage?

Experience?

Thanks!

Wobbly

550 posts

173 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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I’m doubting not many have done this.

With pads and VAT added, about £10.3k, that a serious modification.

V8V Pete

2,497 posts

126 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Expensive, yes but significantly cheaper than OEM Brembo for V12V and appears to use the original calipers. Not clear from the website whether it's only for the original 4-pot front brakes or if they do a set of discs for the later 6-pot calipers too.

For me the big question would be whether or not they have achieved something that Brembo don't appear to have done yet? Produced a CCM road brake which is durable for track use as well. Even if they have do I perceive a £10K benefit over the excellent 6-pot steel brakes on my Vantage S. I doubt it.

Why are you interested anyway John as you have a V12V don't you? Thinking of making a V8V track toy?

JohnG1

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3,471 posts

205 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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V8V Pete said:
Expensive, yes but significantly cheaper than OEM Brembo for V12V and appears to use the original calipers. Not clear from the website whether it's only for the original 4-pot front brakes or if they do a set of discs for the later 6-pot calipers too.

For me the big question would be whether or not they have achieved something that Brembo don't appear to have done yet? Produced a CCM road brake which is durable for track use as well. Even if they have do I perceive a £10K benefit over the excellent 6-pot steel brakes on my Vantage S. I doubt it.

Why are you interested anyway John as you have a V12V don't you? Thinking of making a V8V track toy?
A few years back I looked for a V8 that had been badly crashed. Then rebuild as a race/track car. So strip everything out, simplify the electronic architecture (Pectel rather than OEM), wing, ducting and take it to 5.2litres. Plus dual inlet manifolds. And side-exit exhausts.

Since everything is better with side-exit exhausts...

I'm dusting off those plans, just in case the stars align and I can green-light the project...

V8V Pete

2,497 posts

126 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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JohnG1 said:
V8V Pete said:
Why are you interested anyway John as you have a V12V don't you? Thinking of making a V8V track toy?
A few years back I looked for a V8 that had been badly crashed. Then rebuild as a race/track car. So strip everything out, simplify the electronic architecture (Pectel rather than OEM), wing, ducting and take it to 5.2litres. Plus dual inlet manifolds. And side-exit exhausts.

Since everything is better with side-exit exhausts...

I'm dusting off those plans, just in case the stars align and I can green-light the project...
Sounds like a great project. I'd love to see/hear/feel that when it's done. Is this a project BR would be doing for you? Would you go manual or Sportshift? If you don't mind sharing, do you have any idea yet of what budget might be required for a project like this?

I still think I'd put steel race brakes (like the GT4 cars run) on it but maybe I'm just tight!

JohnG1

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3,471 posts

205 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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V8V Pete said:
JohnG1 said:
V8V Pete said:
Why are you interested anyway John as you have a V12V don't you? Thinking of making a V8V track toy?
A few years back I looked for a V8 that had been badly crashed. Then rebuild as a race/track car. So strip everything out, simplify the electronic architecture (Pectel rather than OEM), wing, ducting and take it to 5.2litres. Plus dual inlet manifolds. And side-exit exhausts.

Since everything is better with side-exit exhausts...

I'm dusting off those plans, just in case the stars align and I can green-light the project...
Sounds like a great project. I'd love to see/hear/feel that when it's done. Is this a project BR would be doing for you? Would you go manual or Sportshift? If you don't mind sharing, do you have any idea yet of what budget might be required for a project like this?

I still think I'd put steel race brakes (like the GT4 cars run) on it but maybe I'm just tight!
BR - yes.

Manual/sportshift - i was looking at an Xtrac IGS ratchet-and-pawl box. So something fancier than the standard graziano box.

Steel brakes - I just hate brake dust, makes the wheels look messy.


Budget - not got one yet. In the sense that I'd see what components cost what, work out expected lifetime total-cost-of-ownership and the expected delta to performance and the optimise. Then iterate through a few combinations and permutations of options.

Only thing I really really want is side-exit exhausts and that's just superficial and aesthetic. But they look cool :-)


V8V Pete

2,497 posts

126 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Sounds fantastic. So have you now acquired a car to get the project going?

JohnG1

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3,471 posts

205 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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V8V Pete said:
Sounds fantastic. So have you now acquired a car to get the project going?
No, just dusting the plans off, in case the planets align.

Finding the car is not the rate-determining step, it's the ££££

m.barnes

186 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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V8V Pete said:
Expensive, yes but significantly cheaper than OEM Brembo for V12V and appears to use the original calipers. Not clear from the website whether it's only for the original 4-pot front brakes or if they do a set of discs for the later 6-pot calipers too.

For me the big question would be whether or not they have achieved something that Brembo don't appear to have done yet? Produced a CCM road brake which is durable for track use as well. Even if they have do I perceive a £10K benefit over the excellent 6-pot steel brakes on my Vantage S. I doubt it.

Why are you interested anyway John as you have a V12V don't you? Thinking of making a V8V track toy?
380mm discs so look like they are designed for 6 pot calipers, which need the 2012+ hub carriers. sounds expensive

leerandle

743 posts

107 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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I didn't even think the 380mm discs fitted with the original 19" alloys anyway ?

drac

354 posts

223 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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They have been fitted to this car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3psgGgZmdeQ