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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.
I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying
was leader.
It's an interesting position, Twig, and I think the outcome of this election may depend on how many feel as you do.I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying
was leader. On the other hand, there's a lot of folk in traditional Labour seats who despise Corbyn as much as you dislike Boris.
I suppose it'll come down to which group of voters has the greater effect. In short, Labour voters going Tory (because of Brexit and Corbyn) versus Tory voters being anti Boris (because of Remain and, well, Boris).
It's almost a back-to-front election.
El stovey said:
AJL308 said:
It should be every thinking person's duty to cast their vote in such a way as to keep out the vile racist Corbyn and his vile racist cohorts. If you are not against them you are with them.
Wow. Peak election right there. Glad it’s all over tomorrow.
Oh, and to answer the question "MP or party?"; well, I'm in Fareham, a rock-solid safe Tory seat. The MP is Suella Braverman, who I have met and who is deeply unimpressive. She does nothing for the area, you never hear of her, she's invisible. Not literally, otherwise how would I know that I met her?
I've voted for the Tory party.
I've voted for the Tory party.
JagLover said:
According to Order Order Labour supporters were chanting "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" at a Corbyn rally last night. It is Order Order so hardly unbiased but if true we basically have a rally for one of the two main political parties chanting to drive Jews into the sea.
Just Jews? Also Muslims, Christians, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, and all other Israeli citizens I assume? Piha said:
AJL308 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
AJL308 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm an ABC in this election...anyone but conservative.
I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying was leader.
Coincidentally, lots of life-long Labour supporters (and lots of Jews) including some of their MP's and recent ex MP's think that same about Jeremy Corbyn. I just don't think Johnson is a fit and proper person the be PM of Great Britain & N. Ireland. You could argue that with people like me who feel that way, it's a shame for decent Tory MPs, but then again, if they were that decent, they wouldn't be standing whilst that lying
was leader. It should be every thinking person's duty to cast their vote in such a way as to keep out the vile racist Corbyn and his vile racist cohorts. If you are not against them you are with them.
Whether Corbyn is anti-Semitic or not is up for debate. I'm not saying he isn't. But it's a debate. He denies it.
Whether Johnson is a liar or not isn't up for debate. He's a proven liar. He's lied all thru his career, he's lied thru this election, he's lied to his ex wives and his older children (or at least the ones we know about). The man's a liar. He has never denied being a liar, and it he did, it would be another lie.
Whether Johnson is a liar or not isn't up for debate. He's a proven liar. He's lied all thru his career, he's lied thru this election, he's lied to his ex wives and his older children (or at least the ones we know about). The man's a liar. He has never denied being a liar, and it he did, it would be another lie.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Whether Corbyn is anti-Semitic or not is up for debate. I'm not saying he isn't. But it's a debate. He denies it.
Whether Johnson is a liar or not isn't up for debate. He's a proven liar. He's lied all thru his career, he's lied thru this election, he's lied to his ex wives and his older children (or at least the ones we know about). The man's a liar. He has never denied being a liar, and it he did, it would be another lie.
Johnson is a politician what do you expect!Whether Johnson is a liar or not isn't up for debate. He's a proven liar. He's lied all thru his career, he's lied thru this election, he's lied to his ex wives and his older children (or at least the ones we know about). The man's a liar. He has never denied being a liar, and it he did, it would be another lie.
Corbyn is a supporter of terrorism, siding with terrorist groups and rouge nations. You only need to look at the example when the poisoning occurred in Salisbury and he jumped to the defense of Russia.
Don't like either of them, don't like the Lib Dems leader either after all she is Scottish, any other nationality is fine though. Returning the love to the North
I just find her to out spoken, tries to shout everyone down!Edited by Macski on Thursday 12th December 17:21
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Whether Corbyn is anti-Semitic or not is up for debate. I'm not saying he isn't. But it's a debate. He denies it.
Whether Johnson is a liar or not isn't up for debate. He's a proven liar. He's lied all thru his career, he's lied thru this election, he's lied to his ex wives and his older children (or at least the ones we know about). The man's a liar. He has never denied being a liar, and it he did, it would be another lie.
Bloody hell...Whether Johnson is a liar or not isn't up for debate. He's a proven liar. He's lied all thru his career, he's lied thru this election, he's lied to his ex wives and his older children (or at least the ones we know about). The man's a liar. He has never denied being a liar, and it he did, it would be another lie.
With who exactly?
Macski said:
Should we not look at the person standing too that is supposed to represent us?
As a parliamentarian who lives in a parliamentary system, I did!I see the labour candidate was parachuted in. I hate that stuff. They all do it though.
Edited by Halb on Thursday 12th December 18:33
Well my MP is Conservative Christopher Chope, the right honorable dhead for the 17th centurymember for Christchurch. I shall be voting against him even though the conservatives realistically most closely represent me as he is personally an odious individual that I cannot vote for. It will make no difference and he'll be elected anyway (largest majority of any conservative MP at the last election) so I won't be left thinking "what have I done" afterward.
head for the 17th centuryTurboHatchback said:
Well my MP is Conservative Christopher Chope, the right honorable dhead for the 17th centurymember for Christchurch. I shall be voting against him even though the conservatives realistically most closely represent me as he is personally an odious individual that I cannot vote for. It will make no difference and he'll be elected anyway (largest majority of any conservative MP at the last election) so I won't be left thinking "what have I done" afterward.
Is he the guy that deliberately scuppers private members' bills because of some bizarre objection to them? If so, I understand your view.head for the 17th centuryOdious. What a great word.
Brave Fart said:
TurboHatchback said:
Well my MP is Conservative Christopher Chope, the right honorable dhead for the 17th centurymember for Christchurch. I shall be voting against him even though the conservatives realistically most closely represent me as he is personally an odious individual that I cannot vote for. It will make no difference and he'll be elected anyway (largest majority of any conservative MP at the last election) so I won't be left thinking "what have I done" afterward.
Is he the guy that deliberately scuppers private members' bills because of some bizarre objection to them? If so, I understand your view.head for the 17th centuryOdious. What a great word.
Well I'm just glad Boris called a GE.
My constituency returned a Conservative MP with a healthy majority for years, but then a couple of years ago he got a minor post in the Cabinet.
He didn't like one of Theresa's Brexit proposals as he was a Remainer, so he resigned his Cabinet post.
His Constituency Party passed a vote of "No Confidence" so he decided to become a Lib Dem!
The majority in his constituency voted "Leave" - so without this GE we could have been stuck for a few years with someone who did whatever he wanted rather than what he got elected to do. Which is surely what an MP is supposed to do - or did I miss something?
Still he'll be gone now.
My constituency returned a Conservative MP with a healthy majority for years, but then a couple of years ago he got a minor post in the Cabinet.
He didn't like one of Theresa's Brexit proposals as he was a Remainer, so he resigned his Cabinet post.
His Constituency Party passed a vote of "No Confidence" so he decided to become a Lib Dem!
The majority in his constituency voted "Leave" - so without this GE we could have been stuck for a few years with someone who did whatever he wanted rather than what he got elected to do. Which is surely what an MP is supposed to do - or did I miss something?
Still he'll be gone now.
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