Momentum has run out of..... er....... momentum
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They were involved in the demonstrations in London tonight
All those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
All those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 13th December 23:59
techiedave said:
They were involved in the demonstrations in London tonight
All those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
Unless it changes the Labour Party will simply splitAll those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
Edited by techiedave on Friday 13th December 23:59
“new labour”
“Labour momentum”
Job done.
Welshbeef said:
techiedave said:
They were involved in the demonstrations in London tonight
All those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
Unless it changes the Labour Party will simply splitAll those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
Edited by techiedave on Friday 13th December 23:59
“new labour”
“Labour momentum”
Job done.
techiedave said:
They were involved in the demonstrations in London tonight
All those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
100%, I am certain the Labour Party will split now, certainly hope so for the betterment of U.K. politics and it’s future. Marxist not welcome.All those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
Edited by techiedave on Friday 13th December 23:59
Welshbeef said:
crankedup said:
In ten years time momentum hard liners will have grown up and belong in a moderate sensible political Party.
What even that Ash lady from Norovotis (or something similar) media who are actively supporting him and his movement Blair makes some good points: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/12/t... (towards the end)
"The takeover of the Labour Party by the far left turned it into a glorified protest movement, with cult trimmings, utterly incapable of being a credible government."
"The takeover of the Labour Party by the far left turned it into a glorified protest movement, with cult trimmings, utterly incapable of being a credible government."
Edited by Hoofy on Thursday 19th December 00:13
Hoofy said:
Blair makes some good points: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/12/t... (towards the end)
"The takeover of the Labour Party by the far left turned it into a glorified protest movement, with cult trimmings, utterly incapable of being a credible government."
Very good article, if you can get past the ‘well done me’ elements of it.... some great points. "The takeover of the Labour Party by the far left turned it into a glorified protest movement, with cult trimmings, utterly incapable of being a credible government."
Edited by Hoofy on Thursday 19th December 00:13
kev1974 said:
Novara Media, they are hilarious. The bit of their election night coverage where they are playing all the regular TV channels about to reveal the exit poll and realisation that Corbyn has fluffed it, is epic. 30m48s here: https://youtu.be/H3RQWEziIKw?t=1848
Haha. They’re brilliant. When the bald bloke says after the exit poll “368:191, uuhhh, that, if it turns out to be correct, would not be a good result, would it?”
What sort of idiots fund that ste?
techiedave said:
They were involved in the demonstrations in London tonight
All those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
But there was a caring trainee doctor there tooAll those well designed and printed banners. All the organisation involved
Dangerous scum. But for all the headline marches demonstrations there are lots of them working away in the background pumping out their divisive bile on social media . Discussing which MP to target which event to attend..
Which MP's appearance to disrupt which act of industrial action to start
they are a virus ingrained and attached to the Labour party that take advantage of and disrespect moderate decent Labour Party people.
Edited by techiedave on Friday 13th December 23:59
https://www.theblaze.com/news/leftist-woman-who-pl...
Supercilious Sid said:
But there was a caring trainee doctor there too
https://www.theblaze.com/news/leftist-woman-who-pl...
I'll have the doctor who doesn't wish death upon people, thanks https://www.theblaze.com/news/leftist-woman-who-pl...
technobob said:
Momentum is Militant Tendency by any other name and would do for the UK what Hatton and his mates did to Liverpool in the 80s.
This exactly. And you can throw in the "Class War" mob as well.They have steadily infected the BBC, schools, universities and the judicial system and it's only a matter of time before their views are accepted as mainstream. Things that only a couple of years ago would have been considered insane and laughed out of the room are now being forced through. Most recent example is the gender nonsense with over 100 different types of gender apparently being "normal" according to these idiots and the young and easily lead are accepting it.
This branch of the Labour party are obsessed with identity politics, gender / race / age quotas and have lost all sense that to actually run Great Britain (not the student union) we need grown up, well educated adults of high calibre who make decisions based on facts and research, not simply on which social media group are the noisiest. They also hate the old, white working class and see them as useful voting idiots who they don't understand and certainly don't want to mix with.
Growing up in Hackney in the late 70's and early 80's this is nothing new, but it is surprising that it's re-appeared in the 21st century when it should have been consigned to the scrap heap decades ago. I can't stand Blair, but he and Blunket and the "New Labour" heavyweights know how to win elections and thus power, which this Momentum rabble just don't understand. Student union protest party for a decade if they continue like this.
grantone said:
I don't think it's the end of Momentum, this result is too easy to blame on Brexit, bad weather, media bias, etc... I think McDonnell probably has enough brains for him & Corbyn to step down and let someone else be the face, but Momentum still control the party machinery.
One week on and this looks like the most likely scenario.3-decades ago Francis Pym was sacked for saying that large majorities were not good for democracies. Parliament has now moved from a position of preventing the Free-will of the people to nothing more than a rubber stamping operation for the Government.
With Labour away with the fairies, I don’t see them getting a look-in for at least 10-years, by which time the debacle over Brexit will probably be forgotten.
tamore said:
is this the end of the momentum movement given the pasting their poster boy is heading towards? or certainly their influence on the labour party?
Likely not as ideology doesn't die when a vote doesn't go your way, it just keeps festering away and likely becomes more radicalised.Antifa/Momentum ideology has reached a position that if you don't agree with them then you are branded as Hitler, and when your movement has gone so far left its only going to fester away in its dogmatic uncompromising position.
The problem with the Antifa/Momentum organisations is that they feed on the young, they operate strongly around schools and universities, who's victims have already gone through a period of left wing leaning education influences. Easy picking for them a lot of the time.
The UK labour party simply needs to split from antifa/momentum altogether, and set up a new party in the centre left if they are to become electable.
I just can't see anybody in the modern world who hasn't been radicalised, voting for 1840's marxist economics which have proven time and time again to fail and reap hardship on their populations. Everyone is "equal", of course, but they are "equal" in hardship, poverty and lack of any prosperity.
Drihump Trolomite said:
Expect a lot of sabotage from these ultra's - they have power where it matters and can make any government appear ineffective through disruption to services
I dont think it will, as shown with the XR lot (why arent they out still protesting, all that plastic waste happening or going to), one or two protest will be fine but then people will get bored and step in to stop them, as shown at Kennington.lemmingjames said:
Drihump Trolomite said:
Expect a lot of sabotage from these ultra's - they have power where it matters and can make any government appear ineffective through disruption to services
I dont think it will, as shown with the XR lot (why arent they out still protesting, all that plastic waste happening or going to), one or two protest will be fine but then people will get bored and step in to stop them, as shown at Kennington.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff