So what now for the Labour party?

So what now for the Labour party?

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EarlOfHazard

3,603 posts

159 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Dr Jekyll said:
Hereward said:
Hello, Mr Miliband.

Here's why I didn't vote Labour. Brexit wasn't remotely a factor. Hope that helps:

Who is the guy between Marx and Lenin on the poster?
Friedrich Engels

Fast and Spurious

1,331 posts

89 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Hereward said:
Hello, Mr Miliband.

Here's why I didn't vote Labour. Brexit wasn't remotely a factor. Hope that helps:

As Borat would say: You joke with me?

Is that real? Wow.... Still at least for sts and giggles put Stalin and Mao up, how many did they off between them, approx. population of UK?

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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JagLover said:
colin_p said:
Good news, it looks like Wrong Bailey is favourite.

She has got a LOT of face.
Surely she has less face than most as her mouth is so small.

Her proper name is Wrong Daily by the way biggrin
I'm hearing they've taken to calling her 'Debbie from accounts' lol

And they call the tory's the nasty party - unbelievable.

king arthur

6,572 posts

262 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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D-Angle said:
snuffy said:
Labour are spinning their election defeat as if they have "let the country down" like they are the England Cricket Team or something.
That's not entirely fair.

The England Cricket Team has won something far more recently than the Labour Party have.
This could go on and on.

"The England Cricket Team does have some talent in it".
"The England Cricket Team does have some representation from the north of England".
"The England Cricket Team isn't getting laughed at by Australians"

Etc etc.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Both need to rise from the ashes.

230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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zygalski said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
I find it terrifying that they still managed 10 million votes, although that will probably change when voter ID is brought in.
Corbyn got more votes than Major in 1997 & Hague in 2001.
You say that as if it is some kind of achievement.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

142 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Fast and Spurious said:
Hereward said:
Hello, Mr Miliband.

Here's why I didn't vote Labour. Brexit wasn't remotely a factor. Hope that helps:

As Borat would say: You joke with me?

Is that real? Wow.... Still at least for sts and giggles put Stalin and Mao up, how many did they off between them, approx. population of UK?
And let's not forget that absolute classic from abbotcus during the Andrew Neil interview about Mao doing more good than harm, leaving him absolutely dumbfounded after her response.

Ah found it - https://youtu.be/v6Nt3kNkKI4

Thankfully I think that's the last we will see of this dangerous bunch of s in the labour party. Anyone who keeps her on as shadow home sec deserves the same flogging at the next GE that corbyn received.

Edited by dazwalsh on Monday 23 December 09:40

LordLoveLength

1,934 posts

131 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Fast and Spurious said:
Hereward said:
Hello, Mr Miliband.

Here's why I didn't vote Labour. Brexit wasn't remotely a factor. Hope that helps:

As Borat would say: You joke with me?

Is that real? Wow.... Still at least for sts and giggles put Stalin and Mao up, how many did they off between them, approx. population of UK?
Can you imagine the outcry if Boris had stood under a poster of Hitler?
Yet somehow mass murderers are to be hero worshipped if they are from the left. What is wrong with these people?
Even Abbott claimed on TV that “on balance, Mao did more good than harm’

Guybrush

4,351 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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LordLoveLength said:
Can you imagine the outcry if Boris had stood under a poster of Hitler?
Yet somehow mass murderers are to be hero worshipped if they are from the left. What is wrong with these people?
Even Abbott claimed on TV that “on balance, Mao did more good than harm’
These are also my reasons for not wanting Labour in power, ever; the hard looney left is too entrenched. Anyway, their similiarities and apparent support for the ideas to hard left mass murderers is even more far reaching than with those displayed on that poster behind McDonnell, as Hitler himself saw his Nazi party as "National Socialiats" and some of Labour's traits highlighted recently do reveal worrying signs (as outlined, for example, in a speech by ex Labour MP Ian Austin).

D-Angle

4,467 posts

243 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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king arthur said:
This could go on and on.

"The England Cricket Team does have some talent in it".
"The England Cricket Team does have some representation from the north of England".
"The England Cricket Team isn't getting laughed at by Australians"

Etc etc.
Why stop at cricket?

In the last 10 years, the England Football Team has come closer to winning the World Cup than Labour has to winning power.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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It just beggars belief that an enquiry is needed to determine why Labour lost.

Corbyn is a terrorist supporter ( not just a sympathiser ) who hired an IRA member as staff
...IRA etc etc etc.

McDonnell is a self confessed Marxist who has publicly stated he wishes to destroy capitalism

Abbott is a racist and an IRA sympathiser - but now has a nice new hairdo. She is incompetent beyond words.

Starmer is the Shadow Brexit secretary who wants to revoke Brexit

And that's before we get into Shrodinger's Brexit, Arm the workers, Disband MI5, the security services and the armed forces, nationalise everything and free everything to everyone.

Oh... and Labour's policy is to retain our nuclear deterrent - but Corbyn will never authorise the use of it.


Labour's policy has always been "make the people reliant on the state to provide for them"


You have to go some to top that.


Fast and Spurious

1,331 posts

89 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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LordLoveLength said:
Can you imagine the outcry if Boris had stood under a poster of Hitler?
Yet somehow mass murderers are to be hero worshipped if they are from the left. What is wrong with these people?
Even Abbott claimed on TV that “on balance, Mao did more good than harm’
What about poor old Stalin, didn't she put in a good word for him too? He worked VERY hard........

Guybrush

4,351 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Troubleatmill said:
It just beggars belief that an enquiry is needed to determine why Labour lost.

Corbyn is a terrorist supporter ( not just a sympathiser ) who hired an IRA member as staff
...IRA etc etc etc.

McDonnell is a self confessed Marxist who has publicly stated he wishes to destroy capitalism

Abbott is a racist and an IRA sympathiser - but now has a nice new hairdo. She is incompetent beyond words.

Starmer is the Shadow Brexit secretary who wants to revoke Brexit

And that's before we get into Shrodinger's Brexit, Arm the workers, Disband MI5, the security services and the armed forces, nationalise everything and free everything to everyone.

Oh... and Labour's policy is to retain our nuclear deterrent - but Corbyn will never authorise the use of it.


Labour's policy has always been "make the people reliant on the state to provide for them"


You have to go some to top that.
I know, it's a complete mystery isn't it?

Solitude

1,902 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Best statement I heard in recent weeks about the Labour Party was
"They went from being a party that represented the working man, to a party that represents the man who doesn't want to work"

A Winner Is You

24,990 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Fast and Spurious said:
LordLoveLength said:
Can you imagine the outcry if Boris had stood under a poster of Hitler?
Yet somehow mass murderers are to be hero worshipped if they are from the left. What is wrong with these people?
Even Abbott claimed on TV that “on balance, Mao did more good than harm’
What about poor old Stalin, didn't she put in a good word for him too? He worked VERY hard........
Seamus milne is a big fan of Uncle Joe as we

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

61 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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jakesmith said:
Blair not a slick operator!? He won a majority of 418 in 1997
418 seats, not a majority of 418.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Kent Border Kenny said:
jakesmith said:
Blair not a slick operator!? He won a majority of 418 in 1997
418 seats, not a majority of 418.
You are of course correct, well done and many thanks

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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230TE said:
You say that as if it is some kind of achievement.
Strictly speaking it is, considering the craziness of Labours leadership and policies.

The number of seats won by the Tories and lost by Labour flatters the former, as it's certainly under a large influence by Brexit.

If you look in the remainer constituencies, the swing from Labour to Tories was not as pronounced as in leave ones. If the issue had not been at play, and the swing of remain seats the uniform pattern, the Tories would not have gained many of the seats they did.

Arguably the Tories may have faired better in Scotland, however it would have been a much tighter election.

Hereward

4,191 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
Seamus milne is a big fan of Uncle Joe as well
Has that vile creature been sacked yet?

andy_s

19,405 posts

260 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Hereward said:
A Winner Is You said:
Seamus milne is a big fan of Uncle Joe as well
Has that vile creature been sacked yet?
He's now in charge of agriculture... wink