Boris's in tray ???
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Peter911 said:
It is none of our business. One thing (perhaps the only thing) I agree with Jeremy Corbyn on is he refused to be interviewed outside his house. Personal and public lives are seperate.
Unless of course you wheel out your personal life as a 'prop'.
Interesting. So Keith Vaz shouldn't have been suspended from parliament? After all shagging a couple of rent boys and paying for them to buy drugs is nothing to do with his public life. Unless of course you wheel out your personal life as a 'prop'.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think the details of the PMs families lives should be private. It's not fair to report on how his kids got on at school, or that his wife has had a fall out with her mum.
But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
where's all these defenders?But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
What goes on in your head just has no attachment to reality does it?
2gins said:
There's a few ideas about the northern economy and the source of funding on page 1.
Oh great, I'll pop back and swot it all up, it's bound to be earth shatteringly brilliant because this place is brimful of brilliant minds, just like mine. It's such a shame nobody takes any notice of us.S1KRR said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think the details of the PMs families lives should be private. It's not fair to report on how his kids got on at school, or that his wife has had a fall out with her mum.
But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
You're an imbecile. But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
I don't know or care how many kids Sadiq Khan has. My dislike for him is purely on his professional life
Same for Angela Rayner or Dianne Abbott
You don't know how many kids Khan or Abbott has because it's not a talking point, as they've never been afraid to disclose the information. But believe me, if Khan or Abbott had 6x3, you would know about it, as would the rest of PH, and they would never stop mentioning it.
(ps. thought about obvious joke about Abbott not knowing the correct figures how many kids she's got, but decided against it)
Teddy Lop said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think the details of the PMs families lives should be private. It's not fair to report on how his kids got on at school, or that his wife has had a fall out with her mum.
But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
where's all these defenders?But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Teddy Lop said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I think the details of the PMs families lives should be private. It's not fair to report on how his kids got on at school, or that his wife has had a fall out with her mum.
But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
where's all these defenders?But I think it's a matter of public interest how many kids the PM has got, and how those kids are supported, financially and emotionally.
From what we know, he currently has 6 kids by 3 women. If a Muslim man running for high office had this situation, or if a female politician had 6 kids by 3 men, most of Boris's defenders on this thread would be all over them like a rash.
I, for one, wouldn't care about their domestic arrangements either, and I've seen no evidence that anybody else would either.
1. By election for any MP switching parties. As has just been proven it is a brilliant way for MPs who's egos are bigger than their humility to bump up their media presence and make themselves feel important. If you are elected for one party with their policies you should not be able to switch to another without putting that decision to the constituents you represent. Clearly most of them will then find out what Sourby, Chuka and the rest of them did this time. Unless you look after the people you represent they will take their revenge.
2. Implement findings of the 2018 Boundary Review.
3. Scrap the TV License and sell the governments stake in Channel 4. Some people on this thread seem to think that Boris will be out for revenge against some people who have wronged him. Well I don't believe that..... except in the case of the BBC and Channel Four. Both of these organisations are going to be in for a very rough time over the coming months. If he wants to earn some more brownie points take the money earned from the CH4 sell off and start a green initiative of some description because it is what Jon Snow would have wanted.
4. Order an immediate enquiry into how the NHS is funded and run & how it can be made better. But heres the kicker, make it cross-party, say to the Labour Party, Lib Dems and Scots Nats. "You all appear to have some good ideas about the NHS and this is the most important promise from all our manifestos, why don't we all sit down, have a discussion and see what the answers are?"
Looks good to all the new Conservative voters and a great way to call out all the other parties into bringing the country together. & if the Labour Party refuse to take part while screaming on twitter about splitters and Trump then it will only reinforce what a lot of people in this country perceive that they are like these days and will make their popularity figures worse.
5. An immediate investigation into the rise of violent crime in this country (especially London) and what we are going to do about. However you don't need to wait for that to end for one thing to be put in process.
Cressida Dick needs to be told "resign to personal reasons = Dame Cressida, no resign = full investigation into your behaviour in your current post," She needs to count herself damn lucky that Brexit has been going on because I would like to think this subject would have been front and centre much earlier.
I'm sure I can come with some more later but that's a start.
2. Implement findings of the 2018 Boundary Review.
3. Scrap the TV License and sell the governments stake in Channel 4. Some people on this thread seem to think that Boris will be out for revenge against some people who have wronged him. Well I don't believe that..... except in the case of the BBC and Channel Four. Both of these organisations are going to be in for a very rough time over the coming months. If he wants to earn some more brownie points take the money earned from the CH4 sell off and start a green initiative of some description because it is what Jon Snow would have wanted.
4. Order an immediate enquiry into how the NHS is funded and run & how it can be made better. But heres the kicker, make it cross-party, say to the Labour Party, Lib Dems and Scots Nats. "You all appear to have some good ideas about the NHS and this is the most important promise from all our manifestos, why don't we all sit down, have a discussion and see what the answers are?"
Looks good to all the new Conservative voters and a great way to call out all the other parties into bringing the country together. & if the Labour Party refuse to take part while screaming on twitter about splitters and Trump then it will only reinforce what a lot of people in this country perceive that they are like these days and will make their popularity figures worse.
5. An immediate investigation into the rise of violent crime in this country (especially London) and what we are going to do about. However you don't need to wait for that to end for one thing to be put in process.
Cressida Dick needs to be told "resign to personal reasons = Dame Cressida, no resign = full investigation into your behaviour in your current post," She needs to count herself damn lucky that Brexit has been going on because I would like to think this subject would have been front and centre much earlier.
I'm sure I can come with some more later but that's a start.
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Sunday 15th December 19:06
anonymous said:
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It has always been the case that socialism attracts the young, pretty much ever since it was invented. I don't see it as a consequence of indoctrination, just that as people get older they realise that things aren't quite as simple as they seemed at 18. Young people have the right to a decent education, job opportunities and to be able to afford somewhere to live. That's enough for the government to be getting on with.Blue62 said:
2gins said:
There's a few ideas about the northern economy and the source of funding on page 1.
Oh great, I'll pop back and swot it all up, it's bound to be earth shatteringly brilliant because this place is brimful of brilliant minds, just like mine. It's such a shame nobody takes any notice of us.anonymous said:
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From a social justice perspective there are good reasons why pensioners get some benefits specific to their age group - basically dwindling earnings potential and declining health. To argue that the young should get bus passes and winter fuel allowance is the voice of unearned entitlement and privilege and can safely be ignored. On the main issues I identified:Education - this is something Boris feels quite strongly about and he has a track record on it. Expect changes.
Job opportunities - largely a function of competent economic management, helped by not crashing the economy onto the rocks in pursuit of ideological objectives that should have died a death in 1989. Government doesn't have to create jobs, it just has to stop putting obstacles in the way of their creation. Businesses will do the rest. (I know it's not quite that simple, but I don't think it's that much more complicated either.)
Housing - this is the real horror story. Successive governments have stoked house price inflation for short-term political advantage and I see no way of unwinding this in the lifetimes of those now leaving school. Those whose parents are homeowners will become homeowners too, when their parents die. Those who end up in high earning jobs will become homeowners. Something needs to be done for the rest. If the Govt isn't aware of this, they must have rocks in their heads.
Even if the big issues are sorted out the majority of young people will start their adult lives as Labour voters anyway. That shouldn't matter: if One Nation Toryism is about anything it is about looking after the interests of all of society, not just the bits that vote Conservative. This is not the Conservative Party that Billy Bragg sang protest songs against. (Although if you were on Twitter you'd think the Nazis had just been voted in.)
Byker28i said:
230TE said:
Passive-aggressive isn't a good look for Remainers. There seems to be a fair bit of it about at the moment, understandable I guess. You guys will be feeling as badly bruised as I felt in 1997. Take heart: the Blair government wasn't nearly as bad as I had feared, life went on. The same applies to Brexit. It'll be OK.
LOL the Blair government was terrible, so many broken promises, cancelled road projects and bypasses and then left the country with Gordon Brown to make Blair look good, witgh the result that we had years of austerity to pay off all their mismanagement. Someone has a very short memory.
anonymous said:
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OK, I'll bite. I used to work in Academia. As did one of my aunts. One of my cousins still does.Your idea of "indoctrination" seems to be encouraging young people to think freely for themselves. Often that means they reject the orthodoxy of older generations. Contrary to the b
ks spouted by the Daily Heil, young people are quite capable of choosing left-wing views all by themselves...As regards that video, I take it you saw the Der Spiegel piece the other day?
The view of the person in the video is hardly a niche one. The problem is many working class now-Tory-voters didn't want Brexit; they wanted something to be done about their lot & chose Brexit. Any politicians taking their problems seriously would have avoided the whole debacle. Boris has claimed to take them seriously so Boris got their vote; it doesn't mean its wrong to say that most commentators believe objectively they will be worse off because of how they've voted recently.
skwdenyer said:
As regards that video, I take it you saw the Der Spiegel piece the other day?
The view of the person in the video is hardly a niche one.
It's a long time since I did German O level and I have no idea what this is all about. Any chance you could summarise quickly? (Genuine request - if I'm intruding on a private discussion here, feel free to tell me to butt out.)The view of the person in the video is hardly a niche one.
anonymous said:
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At 38 I'm no longer young, per-se, but I did not benefit from a single item in that list. I completed university(ies in my case) with a lot of debt. Despite that, and coming from a modest background I have done OK - due to some hard work on my part.I may be well out of touch here, but I fail to see how a current working age 'young' person in England finds themself in a situation that warrants the kind of extreme reaction seen on social media.
My wife and I will have children within the next two years and I would be horrified if they conducted themselves in such a manner. I'm left with the impression that the younger generation is wildly out of touch with reality, due in part, possibly, to an overwhelming sense of entitlement, and possibly a biased educational system.
I'm not especially political or worldly, but the extreme reactions concern me. What really is wrong?
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