Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader

[amusingduck]

B'stard Child said:

Plus he doesn't have a thing about tablets of stone

Commandment #4 would make him a racist these days, would it not?

[anonymous-user]

amusingduck said:

B'stard Child said:

Plus he doesn't have a thing about tablets of stone

Commandment #4 would make him a racist these days, would it not?

Loved the Ed stone

[FiF]

BigMon said:

FiF said:

Wrong on so many counts it's really quite sad.

Out of interest did you castigate techiedave and his acolytes on the Diane Abbott thread which went far beyond criticising her political and general ineptness and was, in fact, pretty tasteless?

Somehow I suspect you didn't.

You're free to suspect what you like, unfortunately for you only as recently as yesterday I criticised the pile ons aimed at Diane Abbott and others.

If I wished to be uncharitable could point out your absence on threads being rather rude about Priti Patel, for example, and suggest you might like to head off to repair the broken glass in your own greenhouse. However that wouldn't beat all fair as, like me and most posters, I suspect you don't read every thread.

[BigMon]

FiF said:

You're free to suspect what you like, unfortunately for you only as recently as yesterday I criticised the pile ons aimed at Diane Abbott and others.

If I wished to be uncharitable could point out your absence on threads being rather rude about Priti Patel, for example, and suggest you might like to head off to repair the broken glass in your own greenhouse. However that wouldn't beat all fair as, like me and most posters, I suspect you don't read every thread.

Well kudos to you for doing that then as that particular thread ran for many pages (as did subsequent threads too until they all got shut down) with virtually no dissenting voices on them.

My point is and was it's fine to criticise someone for how they perform in their role or as a person (and it's not as if there isn't enough ammo there for both Abbott and Patel) but once you start venturing into puerile sexual fantasies, misogony, or anything similar it's, at best, offensive and shouldn't happen to any politician of any political hue.

[Blib]

No rational person would disagree with that.

Which makes it all the more reprehensible that Jewish Labour politicians were hounded out of the party with barely a murmer from the leadership.

That this continues today, during the leadership campaign, is nothing short of scandalous. I despair for the party I used to support.

[FiF]

BigMon said:

FiF said:

You're free to suspect what you like, unfortunately for you only as recently as yesterday I criticised the pile ons aimed at Diane Abbott and others.

If I wished to be uncharitable could point out your absence on threads being rather rude about Priti Patel, for example, and suggest you might like to head off to repair the broken glass in your own greenhouse. However that wouldn't beat all fair as, like me and most posters, I suspect you don't read every thread.

Well kudos to you for doing that then as that particular thread ran for many pages (as did subsequent threads too until they all got shut down) with virtually no dissenting voices on them.

My point is and was it's fine to criticise someone for how they perform in their role or as a person (and it's not as if there isn't enough ammo there for both Abbott and Patel) but once you start venturing into puerile sexual fantasies, misogony, or anything similar it's, at best, offensive and shouldn't happen to any politician of any political hue.

Agreed, which gets back to my original point on another thread that there's something seriously wrong with social media and the way it's being used and abused in many ways, often offensive, equally often criminal, and by criminal I don't just mean in terms of offensive behaviour but promoting criminal enterprise.

[kev1974]

Wow it burns a lot of money to get elected as Labour leader!

https://www.rebeccaforleader.org/donorlist

[markyb_lcy]

kev1974 said:

Wow it burns a lot of money to get elected as Labour leader!

https://www.rebeccaforleader.org/donorlist

That’s small change.

Taking the last 3 months of 2018 as an example (because that was the quickest figures to find).

Conservative party donations ... £7.4m
Labour Party donations ... £1.6m

Note that only donations above £7.5k were counted (as they are the ones which require to be reported)

Over the whole of 2018...

the Conservatives received donations totalling more than £21m, Labour were given £7m and the Liberal Democrats £2.8m.

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 26th February 11:27

[zygalski]

I suspect our blue rinse devotees will gloss over your post.

[768]

kev1974 said:

Wow it burns a lot of money to get elected as Labour leader!

https://www.rebeccaforleader.org/donorlist

Unite donation in kind (staff) £15,000.00
Momentum donation in kind (staff) £85,376.19
CWU donation in kind (staff) £17,609.00

Does this mean they've given her £120k worth of their finest people? That's quite a few when we're only a month and half in.

[jtremlett]

markyb_lcy said:

That’s small change.

Taking the last 3 months of 2018 as an example (because that was the quickest figures to find).

Conservative party donations ... £7.4m
Labour Party donations ... £1.6m

Note that only donations above £7.5k were counted (as they are the ones which require to be reported)

Over the whole of 2018...

the Conservatives received donations totalling more than £21m, Labour were given £7m and the Liberal Democrats £2.8m.

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 26th February 11:27

To put all that in perspective Michael Bloomberg has so far spent $409 million on his presidential campaign.

[KarlMac]

markyb_lcy said:

kev1974 said:

Wow it burns a lot of money to get elected as Labour leader!

https://www.rebeccaforleader.org/donorlist

That’s small change.

Taking the last 3 months of 2018 as an example (because that was the quickest figures to find).

Conservative party donations ... £7.4m
Labour Party donations ... £1.6m

Note that only donations above £7.5k were counted (as they are the ones which require to be reported)

Over the whole of 2018...

the Conservatives received donations totalling more than £21m, Labour were given £7m and the Liberal Democrats £2.8m.

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 26th February 11:27

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the majority of the Labour partner donors fall under the 7.5k threshold for reporting.

Do political parties have to report full accounts?

[markyb_lcy]

KarlMac said:

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the majority of the Labour partner donors fall under the 7.5k threshold for reporting.

Do political parties have to report full accounts?

It's not unreasonable, no. (and by that I mean donors, rather than donations total)

It would be unreasonable to assume that the total would be anywhere near 21m as a result though. Also do remember that 21m for the Tories doesn't include the donations <7.5k they receive.

On any reading of the numbers and making any reasonable assumptions, the conservative party receive vastly more in donations than any other party.

[KingNothing]

Just had my email from Red Len telling me who to vote for, did their little survey telling them who I intended to vote for, needless to say it wasn't who they've backed.

[Tony427]

markyb_lcy said:

Gargamel said:

markyb_lcy said:

Gargamel said:

David Milliband ?

You mean the guy that lives in New York ? The one who isn’t a Labour MP? The bloke who was head of Toby Blairs policy unit and wrote the manifesto that TB won on ? DM, the guy who isn’t even the best politician in his own family ?

That David Milliband ?

The very same.

Was there a point to your post or are you genuinely confused about which David Milliband was being referred to?

I was simply giving five reasons why DM will never lead the Labour Party. Sorry if that wasn’t clear to you, I think the point was obvious to most.

Writing a manifesto which won the Labour Party an election.... doesn’t sound like a reason he would/should never lead the party to me.

Living in New York is easily fixed.

Him being a less able politician than his brother is entirely your opinion. The leadership election he lost to Ed was lost with less than a 2% majority.

I don’t think it’s the last that Labour has seen of DM.

Edited by markyb_lcy on Tuesday 25th February 23:01

The point I was making is that if Labour do ever want to get into power again it's a David Milliband or the like who will will have a chance to do it.

A Socilaist Labour party will never get into power, a centralist might just manage to do so, if it has a decent leader and can differentiate itself from a centralist Tory party.

I don't think Sir Kier Starmer or any shadow front bencher is the person for that job. New, but experienced, blood is needed.

Cheer,

Tony

[TPSA7514]

The Labour Leader hopefuls have now moved on to another thorny subject

It's not just the few
We gotta love the jew
Basically consists of them all claiming to have been deeply concerned/ worried etc.
Lisa Nandy can claim that one by a mile.

[98elise]

KarlMac said:

markyb_lcy said:

kev1974 said:

Wow it burns a lot of money to get elected as Labour leader!

https://www.rebeccaforleader.org/donorlist

That’s small change.

Taking the last 3 months of 2018 as an example (because that was the quickest figures to find).

Conservative party donations ... £7.4m
Labour Party donations ... £1.6m

Note that only donations above £7.5k were counted (as they are the ones which require to be reported)

Over the whole of 2018...

the Conservatives received donations totalling more than £21m, Labour were given £7m and the Liberal Democrats £2.8m.

Edited by markyb_lcy on Wednesday 26th February 11:27

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the majority of the Labour partner donors fall under the 7.5k threshold for reporting.

Do political parties have to report full accounts?

Yes

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7080109/labour-paid-...


Article says..."accounts published yesterday showed Labour both raised and spent about £10 million more than the Conservatives, with income of £55,793,000 and a spend of £54,342,000 in 2017 Accounts for Theresa May’s party show it took in a much lower £45,947,000 and spent £44,867,000."

Labour also own a property investment company

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0096462...

[CambsBill]

98elise said:

Labour also own a property investment company

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0096462...

Fixed assets (property) £6million
Rental & other income £2.6million

Bloody capitalists!

[Blib]

It is during an election that the true financial power of the Conservatives is revealed.

The Telegraph reports that contributions during this past general election to the various parties was as follows:

Conservatives: £37m
Labour: £10.7m
Lib Dems: £13.6m
Brexit: £7.1m

It's worth noting that Lord Saisnbury donated £8m to the Lib Dems, which skewed their income. The Brexit party benefitted from a single donation of £6.4m.

Most of Labour's income came from the unions.

[kev1974]

https://twitter.com/RLong_Bailey/status/1233285705...

lol at this video that Wrong Daily has released this morning, of her having a cosy chat with Magic Grandpa

Absolute cringe-fest.

"Jeremy it's freezing!"
"Oh i've turned the heating off, you know, climate change etc"