Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader
Discussion
AmitG said:
I think that Labour can win the next election...
That would be one hell of a swing but I suppose we should not rule anything out given the impending scale of change coming in this country.If there is even a whiff of Momentum / left wing lunacy I will not be lending Labour my vote regardless of the state of affairs.
rscott said:
He got 56.2% of votes cast .. I would give more detail, but the stupid forum is throwing a 403 error.
Should say...
Correct on the percentage of those that voted.Should say...
Edited by rscott on Sunday 12th April 23:50
He picked up 276K votes. (The other two about 140K + 80K)
Meanwhile 296K didn't vote at all.
So in a closed shop election he seems to have managed to get a positive endorsement from less than 35% of the available electorate.
Hardly a ringing endorsement & something of a lack of enthusiasm.
Back in the day Blair picked up 507K
Wombat3 said:
rscott said:
He got 56.2% of votes cast .. I would give more detail, but the stupid forum is throwing a 403 error.
Should say...
Correct on the percentage of those that voted.Should say...
Edited by rscott on Sunday 12th April 23:50
He picked up 276K votes. (The other two about 140K + 80K)
Meanwhile 296K didn't vote at all.
So in a closed shop election he seems to have managed to get a positive endorsement from less than 35% of the available electorate.
Hardly a ringing endorsement & something of a lack of enthusiasm.
Back in the day Blair picked up 507K
Didn't a significant number of people join Labour specifically to vote for Corbyn in leadership and general elections? If these people are still members yet no longer interested in Labour you'll get more turnout. Also worth factoring Labour having just been soundly beaten on the GE, meaning this who've joined to support the GE effort may also be disengaged.
A low turnout can be the result of several things; external circumstances, the quality of the field, inevitability of one party winning or losing, apathy and so on. It isn't likely to be a reflection on one candidate.
You can only judge one candidate on the votes from those who did turn out. On that measure he walked out.
It's a very beige choice in a sea of brown, but win it convincingly he did.
A low turnout can be the result of several things; external circumstances, the quality of the field, inevitability of one party winning or losing, apathy and so on. It isn't likely to be a reflection on one candidate.
You can only judge one candidate on the votes from those who did turn out. On that measure he walked out.
It's a very beige choice in a sea of brown, but win it convincingly he did.
Also, it was a bit of a performance to vote if you were an affiliated union member.
You had to preregister, wait for confirmation which many did not get and then wait for an email telling sending you a link to vote.
Despite what many on NP&E think, being in a union doesn’t make you a Corbynistic, socialist flag waving loon. Most don’t care about politics or the Labour Party but being union members do count towards the total membership numbers. Making it a faff to vote just increases the chances of belligerent members not voting.
You had to preregister, wait for confirmation which many did not get and then wait for an email telling sending you a link to vote.
Despite what many on NP&E think, being in a union doesn’t make you a Corbynistic, socialist flag waving loon. Most don’t care about politics or the Labour Party but being union members do count towards the total membership numbers. Making it a faff to vote just increases the chances of belligerent members not voting.
Labour party fighting with and undermining the labour party because the labour party doesn't like the leader the labour party has voted for, and the fix for this is to fight with and undermine the labour party.
This sounds like a well organised, totally together group that could definitely run an alcohol based party in a brewery.
This sounds like a well organised, totally together group that could definitely run an alcohol based party in a brewery.
Ian974 said:
Labour party fighting with and undermining the labour party because the labour party doesn't like the leader the labour party has voted for, and the fix for this is to fight with and undermine the labour party.
This sounds like a well organised, totally together group that could definitely run an alcohol based party in a brewery.
They're doing the only thing they are good at. This sounds like a well organised, totally together group that could definitely run an alcohol based party in a brewery.
A Winner Is You said:
I’m a labour member but I must say, that is a spectacularly stupid thing for the MP to say.One MP thankfully means very little though. I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. I hope that tweet drowns in the noise
markyb_lcy said:
I’m a labour member but I must say, that is a spectacularly stupid thing for the MP to say.
One MP thankfully means very little though. I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. I hope that tweet drowns in the noise
You need to look a little further if you think it's just one. One MP thankfully means very little though. I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. I hope that tweet drowns in the noise
markyb_lcy said:
I’m a labour member but I must say, that is a spectacularly stupid thing for the MP to say.
One MP thankfully means very little though. I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. I hope that tweet drowns in the noise
Me thinks her IQ is a little lower than the dried food she is named after One MP thankfully means very little though. I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. I hope that tweet drowns in the noise
768 said:
markyb_lcy said:
I’m a labour member but I must say, that is a spectacularly stupid thing for the MP to say.
One MP thankfully means very little though. I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. I hope that tweet drowns in the noise
You need to look a little further if you think it's just one. One MP thankfully means very little though. I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. I hope that tweet drowns in the noise
A Winner Is You said:
Holy crap, what a load of delusional idiots.They walk amongst us.
markyb_lcy said:
I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. )
That’s the Labour front bench for the last 4 years you’ve just described there, utter talent vacuum. What do you think people like Prescott or Mandleson who were around the last time Labour won an election think of the utter crowd of d
heads like Burgeon, Corbyn, McDonnel, Butler, long Bailey. Although the stupidest one had to be Laura Pidcock. You could not become a Tory MP if you were as thick as her. jakesmith said:
markyb_lcy said:
I think both sides have their misfits, rebels, oddballs and outright stupid people. )
That’s the Labour front bench for the last 4 years you’ve just described there, utter talent vacuum. What do you think people like Prescott or Mandleson who were around the last time Labour won an election think of the utter crowd of dheads like Burgeon, Corbyn, McDonnel, Butler, long Bailey. Although the stupidest one had to be Laura Pidcock. You could not become a Tory MP if you were as thick as her. Not just an MP but a holder of one of the great offices of state. Not even trusted by the PM to do her job in a crisis. The job that it is worth saying he gave her. She has her own thread here. Even her own side think she is utterly stupid.
But, this is pure whataboutism on my part. Maybe you can’t see there are idiots on both sides. I am acutely aware of it.
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