Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader
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Dont like rolls said:
Rebecca Long Bailey towers above the other candidates, with the visionary Angela Rayner by her side Labour will Tag-Team this reactionary alt-right government.
This was from another thread but it's clear that Don't like rolls is a man after my own heart.His use of erotic imagery is quite something
techiedave said:
David Lammy launches bid to become first black or ethnic minority Labour leader - joining Emily Thornberry and Clive Lewis in official running to replace Jeremy Corbyn
Lammy up for the job
DAVID LAMMY
Lammy was one of the few senior labour figures open and realistic about what’s gone wrong with labour after the election. Talking about Corbyn and the momentum party within a party.Lammy up for the job
DAVID LAMMY
Not sure he’s going to get in after that though.
MWM3 said:
Clive Lewis looks like the ideal candidate.
https://twitter.com/SocialM85897394/status/1207960...
Such a gentleman
He’s been in trouble a few times. The “on your knees bhttps://twitter.com/SocialM85897394/status/1207960...
Such a gentleman
h” stuff still haunts him.Interesting looking back at who were favourites to replace Ed Miliband back in 2015
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gen...
Dan Jarvis would would have been a good choice. I think his wife died around that time and he took himself out of the running.
Then momentum took over and it all went wrong for labour.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gen...
Dan Jarvis would would have been a good choice. I think his wife died around that time and he took himself out of the running.
Then momentum took over and it all went wrong for labour.
Gogoplata said:
FiF said:
JustALooseScrew said:
FiF said:
It's a long interview of >1hour from Trigger Nometry but well worth the effort. Why Labour lost the election and suggesting that basically ideas have left the building it having developed far too quickly into a 'who's the new leader' debate yet they don't even have the thinkers to get themselves out of the mess.
Early on an amusing anecdote about the different reactions to the presentation of an academic paper firstly to Ed Miliband's crew and later the same day to Lynton Crosby. Also covers other areas away from just the UK picture.
https://youtu.be/3kf1YKeq7lA
A seasonal gift to NP&E for when you're flagging after too much turkey. Best Wishes to All, even slasher whoever he is now.
Really found that interesting, thanks for posting. Early on an amusing anecdote about the different reactions to the presentation of an academic paper firstly to Ed Miliband's crew and later the same day to Lynton Crosby. Also covers other areas away from just the UK picture.
https://youtu.be/3kf1YKeq7lA
A seasonal gift to NP&E for when you're flagging after too much turkey. Best Wishes to All, even slasher whoever he is now.
As you say the anecdote about the academic presentation just tells us all we needed to know and have since learned.
The Sweet/Labour said:
Does anyone know the way, did we hear someone say
(We just haven't got a clue what to do)
(We just haven't got a clue what to do)
He really brings out the perspective in the argument that's been part of the discussion on here since 2014. Namely how the section of society which has been labelled "the left behind" have been treated by the Left, Labour and many on here as it simply being an issue of them being economically left behind, and indeed there have been some shameful comments on PH. Yet the real division has been they've felt left behind on the Left's grabbing of cultural identity and certain social values, with anyone who doesn't hold the same views being instantly dismissed as racist, xenophobic or just plain thick, with the argument rapidly being turned to accusations of eg racism as a shut down to any argument. Again seen on here too much.
It highlights the problem the Left will have in really shifting their views and stance to recapture those who have been alienated, and they're going completely the wrong way about it. Which is actually bad news for the consolidation of a credible opposition.
Certainly a lesson for across the Atlantic, will the Democrats be as receptive to the realignment message as Ed Milliband was, i.e. not at all.
My favourite section, “conservatives are intrinsically aspirational and optimistic and the Labour Party is really none of those things”. Says it all really
JustALooseScrew said:
Countdown said:
JustALooseScrew said:
I want to be British, I'm so lucky to have been born in England but I'm torn, really torn, why are people trying to tell us that we're the lowest of the low, Tory scum, only out for themselves?
It's nonsense.
IIRC you are not white, perhaps even Muslim I think. Well the chickens have come home to roost, and by the same virtue of seeing white english men chanting monkey calls to a few lads booting a ball around, I feel ashamed that the society I love is still at this level.
I've traveled all over the world (the only continent I haven't been to is Greenland) and at every place I've always tried to be a polite, considerate and accommodating and respecting the norms of the culture I was embraced in.
Then some stupid t
t get's his name all over the news for monkey chanting at a soccer match. It's a disgrace, and it bothers me, and it embarrasses me and for some reason makes me very nervous about saying I'm British.I worked for a week in Argentina and I didn't manage to get chased out of the Country like Clarkson, May & Hammond. I made friends there. I've been to Texas many times and the same.
It's becoming embarrassing on the world stage to say you're British.
Hope that explains my feelings a little.
irc said:
Yes, it's funny how the party for the many is the only major UK party not to have had a female leader.
Dianne Abbott for PM!!!!
They will be going for Rebecca Long StareDianne Abbott for PM!!!!
If they do ok in the locals they will view it as an endorsement. If they do crap it will be just the message isn't being heard, awful media right wing b
ds mode for another 9 months afterJustALooseScrew said:
unrelated stuff
it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour LeaderThe thread is about Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader the clue is in the title
So basically it evolves around Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader the person involved and why the poster thinks that person will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader
Go off on as many tangents and travelogue inspired tales of angst as you wish but the thread is about Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader
JustALooseScrew said:
hite, I think I forgot to address this point. Perhaps not?
It has everything to do with this. The Scots are trying to make out that every English person is a wker. The Welsh are just slightly more polite than that.
Their is no British identity any more - no one knows what that should be. You can't see it, I can, go ask Sway if you can borrow his new Christmas glasses, it might open your eyes a bit, widen your perspective?
It's all well and good making long running jokes about about fat coloured useless politicians, and we've all sniggered. But at some stage some thing has to be done.
That time is now - and it has to be done quickly.
It's utterly irrelevant who Labour choose as their next leader, my opinion is that if they choose some one more aligned to cross party talks then the may have a say in important decisions.
Beyond that, fk them, WrongDaily, Crayons, Nandy - none of them have a clue. They will be just wasting everyone's time.
I think MY perspective is just fine.It has everything to do with this. The Scots are trying to make out that every English person is a w
ker. The Welsh are just slightly more polite than that.Their is no British identity any more - no one knows what that should be. You can't see it, I can, go ask Sway if you can borrow his new Christmas glasses, it might open your eyes a bit, widen your perspective?
It's all well and good making long running jokes about about fat coloured useless politicians, and we've all sniggered. But at some stage some thing has to be done.
That time is now - and it has to be done quickly.
It's utterly irrelevant who Labour choose as their next leader, my opinion is that if they choose some one more aligned to cross party talks then the may have a say in important decisions.
Beyond that, f
k them, WrongDaily, Crayons, Nandy - none of them have a clue. They will be just wasting everyone's time. Incidentally its attitudes like yours that are the very reason that labour were disregarded by so many. As in we (you in this case) know best
As regards fat black (coloured is considered offensive in case you didn't know) politicians I think you will find its others harping on about he
I don't believe that most scots do think of british as w
kers. I must mix with the wrong un's But this part of your post
"It's utterly irrelevant who Labour choose as their next leader, my opinion is that if they choose some one more aligned to cross party talks then the may have a say in important decisions. "
Does at least actually attempt to address the actual thread
So who would you have in mind - its a push I know but ………………..
crankedup said:
vaud said:
crankedup said:
Unfortunately the French do not seem to share your opinion, they are deeply patriotic to the point of rudeness to ‘foreigners’.
They are fine if you speak French, or at least try to. I have been to France probably 100 times in my life across most regions, speak passable but not fluent French and have never had a single issue. Even in deepest rural Savoie or Poitou-Charentes (as was) I have only ever encountered curiosity, and then at least a warm-ish welcome. One difference is that the French are quite formal with each other and formality can be mistaken at times for coldness.The only people I’ve had issues with in France with my limited French, are Parisians. They take rude to a whole other level if you’re not fluent
Either way, I love France, the people and the way of life.
MWM3 said:
A Winner Is You said:
MWM3 said:
Zirconia said:
Richard Burgon has thrown his hat in the ring. Stunning line up to keep Bozza in for at least 10 then.
Im so pleased for Dick Burgon, he'll make an excellent deputy Leader!https://twitter.com/SocialM85897394/status/1212349...
The article I read in the Telegraph (I suspect based on the above YouGov polll) suggested that in a final run off between Long-Bailey and Starmer, the latter would win by 61% to 39%.
The early running odds with the full gambit of candidates is irrelevant, subject to the above two making it through to the final.
The early running odds with the full gambit of candidates is irrelevant, subject to the above two making it through to the final.
0a said:
I suspect that everything will change when Corbyn and McDonnell announce who they want to succeed them with their project. Convention says that the outgoing labour leader doesn’t do this, but convention also says if you get hammered in an election you stand down as leader rather than hanging around like an unflushable turd.
McDonall has already made it clear he want wrong daily as the next leader.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff