Born in the UK?
Discussion
768 said:
Crumpet said:
That's pretty remarkable.My kids would count in those numbers. My wife was born in NZ, has lived here around half her life, works in the NHS, and these days has British citizenship and a passport.
Crumpet said:
We honestly felt a bit lost amongst the underclass natives and the non English speaking immigrants. Middle-class, white and British was definitely the minority.
It wasn't my experience, and ours was University Hospital Lewisham. But maybe there's some cognitive bias going on here.My wife is one of those foreigners you hear so much about these days.
If/when we have children they will be technically ‘born of a foreign mother’.
I’m just making the small point that a proportion of those statistics will presumably include births which involve a British citizen as one of the parents, and to all intents and purposes will progress as nothing more unusual than a British couple with children.
If/when we have children they will be technically ‘born of a foreign mother’.
I’m just making the small point that a proportion of those statistics will presumably include births which involve a British citizen as one of the parents, and to all intents and purposes will progress as nothing more unusual than a British couple with children.
Dr Jekyll said:
KrissKross said:
If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?
As the (Irish born) Duke of Wellington said, 'Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse.'.Did you know that one of the tallest monuments in Ireland (and the tallest in Dublin) is dedicated to the Duke of Wellington?
Dr Jekyll said:
KrissKross said:
If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?
As the (Irish born) Duke of Wellington said, 'Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse.'.It all depends on what weighting you place on the legalities/paperwork Vs the practicalities/upbringing.
A child could be born in China, live in China, have Chinese passport and officially be a Chinese citizen, but in reality be as ‘British’ as Afternoon Tea.
The article makes an interesting read. I'm not sure why the furore; it shows the data on a constituency in the UK. It puts a lie to some of the suggestions as to why labour 'safe' seats changed allegiance. I wonder if Johnson will consider putting money into such an area when it is a marginal that probably will revert at the next election.
It demonstrates the BBC bias to provide information.
I have 6 grandchildren. 33.3% of them were born to a mother born outside the UK.
It demonstrates the BBC bias to provide information.
I have 6 grandchildren. 33.3% of them were born to a mother born outside the UK.
Lord Marylebone said:
Dr Jekyll said:
KrissKross said:
If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?
As the (Irish born) Duke of Wellington said, 'Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse.'.It all depends on what weighting you place on the legalities/paperwork Vs the practicalities/upbringing.
A child could be born in China, live in China, have Chinese passport and officially be a Chinese citizen, but in reality be as ‘British’ as Afternoon Tea.
Derek Smith said:
The article makes an interesting read. I'm not sure why the furore; it shows the data on a constituency in the UK. It puts a lie to some of the suggestions as to why labour 'safe' seats changed allegiance. I wonder if Johnson will consider putting money into such an area when it is a marginal that probably will revert at the next election.
It demonstrates the BBC bias to provide information.
I have 6 grandchildren. 33.3% of them were born to a mother born outside the UK.
It demonstrates the BBC bias to provide information.
I have 6 grandchildren. 33.3% of them were born to a mother born outside the UK.
Tommy Cooper said:
Apparently, 1 in 5 people in the world is Chinese. And there are 5 people in my family, so it must be one of them. It's either my mum or my dad. Or my older brother Colin. Or my younger brother Ho Cha Chu. But I think it's Colin.
Countdown said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Dr Jekyll said:
KrissKross said:
If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?
As the (Irish born) Duke of Wellington said, 'Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse.'.It all depends on what weighting you place on the legalities/paperwork Vs the practicalities/upbringing.
A child could be born in China, live in China, have Chinese passport and officially be a Chinese citizen, but in reality be as ‘British’ as Afternoon Tea.
If a British born couple raised a child in China, the child may end up as British as afternoon Tea... or the child may decide it wants to adopt Chinese culture and values as it grows up.
If a Chinese born couple raise a child in Britain, the child may be brought up with Chinese culture and values... or the child may decide it wants to adopt British culture and values as it grows up.
Either of these situations will be influenced by both the parents and the society.
Lord Marylebone said:
Not necessarily. It could go either way
If a British born couple raised a child in China, the child may end up as British as afternoon Tea... or the child may decide it wants to adopt Chinese culture and values as it grows up.
If a Chinese born couple raise a child in Britain, the child may be brought up with Chinese culture and values... or the child may decide it wants to adopt British culture and values as it grows up.
Either of these situations will be influenced by both the parents and the society.
I thought we nicked the "tea" thing from the Chinese anyway. How dare those Brits go over there nicking other peoples' culture and plants - and then claiming it's theirs. The utter cheek.If a British born couple raised a child in China, the child may end up as British as afternoon Tea... or the child may decide it wants to adopt Chinese culture and values as it grows up.
If a Chinese born couple raise a child in Britain, the child may be brought up with Chinese culture and values... or the child may decide it wants to adopt British culture and values as it grows up.
Either of these situations will be influenced by both the parents and the society.
Dr Jekyll said:
Eric Mc said:
Michael Collins, the Apollo 11 astronaut, was born in Rome, Italy - but there is no way he was ever Italian.
+1Eric Mc said:
Cliff Richard was born in India.
As was Guy Gibson.Slash from Guns n Roses was born in Hampstead.
People get born in funny places.
Stigproducts said:
I once found myself behind the counter at UCLH in a maternity unit. They had filing cabinets for some patient info. One for A , One for B, 3 for last name "Begum" one for C, one for D.
So I'd say there the birth rate from somali immigrants was quite disproportionate!
Begum's more like;y to be South Asian than Somali.So I'd say there the birth rate from somali immigrants was quite disproportionate!
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