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Sway said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:Sabinsky said:
One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty. Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue.
Personally I'd read that as going a little further than "supports contraception".We've a 14 year old daughter. We've been discussing with her getting the implant in a year or two, so that all through the rest of her education it's simply not something she needs concern herself about (whilst still recommending strongly the use of barriers to prevent STD).
It's certainly not sterilisation, as presented by DeepEnd and others as being his views...
R Mutt said:
The biggest factor behind the reduction in teen pregnancies in the UK is the caps on benefits. Something with a positive result which you'd have a hard time labelling eugenics, yet is still opposed by the same groups.
Really? I'd be interested to see some evidence of that.https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/18/ho...
longblackcoat said:
R Mutt said:
The biggest factor behind the reduction in teen pregnancies in the UK is the caps on benefits. Something with a positive result which you'd have a hard time labelling eugenics, yet is still opposed by the same groups.
Really? I'd be interested to see some evidence of that.https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/18/ho...
Sway said:
Yet again you snip, and completely ignore the multiple times I've said that I agree that removal of consent is too far...
On that, I'm done. If you're just going to go the route of loaded statements and emotional interpretation of fairly clear words, it's not worth trying to discuss with you.
I ignore it because those statements don’t match what you’re actually saying in your arguments. On that, I'm done. If you're just going to go the route of loaded statements and emotional interpretation of fairly clear words, it's not worth trying to discuss with you.
If you didn’t mean to say that consent makes no difference to outcomes, it may have been more efficient not to say it in the first place.
If you don’t support the state forcing people to take contraception, it is probably easier not to support it and make comparisons to a free informed choice.
It's more telling about a person which evidence they gravitate to, especially where there isn't huge consensus, as it does reveal their subconscious preference.
I don't think Cummings mentioned race in this writings on this subject so those posters keen to divert the discussion to these points are self revealing on their racial politics. IMO.
I don't think Cummings mentioned race in this writings on this subject so those posters keen to divert the discussion to these points are self revealing on their racial politics. IMO.
Sambucket said:
It's more telling about a person which evidence they gravitate to, especially where there isn't huge consensus, as it does reveal their subconscious preference.
I don't think Cummings mentioned race in this writings on this subject so those posters keen to divert the discussion to these points are self revealing on their racial politics. IMO.
I haven’t seen people say Cummings mentioned race. The complaining about race is in relation to Andrew Sabisky’s comments about race and IQ, submissive women and creating an underclass. Andrew Sabisky is being commented on because he’s one of the successful applicants for “Cummings’ jobs advert” which is what the thread is about.I don't think Cummings mentioned race in this writings on this subject so those posters keen to divert the discussion to these points are self revealing on their racial politics. IMO.
For those of you that missed out on the Cummings job(s), this one popped up on my Linkedin:
Director of Infrastructure, Enterprise and Growth, Infrastructure and Projects Authority
Responsible for:
HS2, Transport for the North, Grenfell, the nuclear building & decommissioning programme, and Net Zero 2050
£149k/pa
https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jo...
I'm happy to step aside and let you guys have a crack at that one
Director of Infrastructure, Enterprise and Growth, Infrastructure and Projects Authority
Responsible for:
HS2, Transport for the North, Grenfell, the nuclear building & decommissioning programme, and Net Zero 2050
£149k/pa
https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jo...
I'm happy to step aside and let you guys have a crack at that one
I think the problem with this role will be that no matter how successful you are, you will inevitably be hung out to dry by the politicians at some point.
Looking after the country's nuclear future and wider decarbonisation would be incredibly exciting, but Grenfell chucked into the mix for good measure?
Looking after the country's nuclear future and wider decarbonisation would be incredibly exciting, but Grenfell chucked into the mix for good measure?
ben5575 said:
I think the problem with this role will be that no matter how successful you are, you will inevitably be hung out to dry by the politicians at some point.
Looking after the country's nuclear future and wider decarbonisation would be incredibly exciting, but Grenfell chucked into the mix for good measure?
It's an odd mix and, IMO, an unnecessarily large and disconnected role. It almost looks like they're wanting to put all their sLooking after the country's nuclear future and wider decarbonisation would be incredibly exciting, but Grenfell chucked into the mix for good measure?
t storms in one pot so they only have to fire one person when the time comes 
- HS2 and "Transport for the North"...natural bedfellows (though why not just include all transport - it desperately needs a unified strategy and someone on the hook for delivery)
- nuclear building/decomm and "Net Zero Carbon 2050"...also natural bedfellows (hopefully somebody with some balls will dial back the rhetoric on the latter and stop us crucifying ourselves). The Carbon one has links with the transport one but not to the extent they need to be folded together any more than Home and Foreign office remits do
- Grenfell...what about it? Really not sure what that is in terms of a "Director of Infrastructure" role. H&S updates, planning updates, building new homes...but none of it sits well with the rest IMO.
Definitely has bear trap written all over it. For 150k....
Sway said:
He didn't "bat for" CRISPR techniques. Nor did he suggest sterilisation as some are repeatedly claiming, nor killing people in a Nazi fashion.
However, it is by definition "eugenics", which you seem by your comments to think is beyond the pale in any circumstances.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/doctors-use-crispr-gene-editing-inside-person-s-body-first-n1149711However, it is by definition "eugenics", which you seem by your comments to think is beyond the pale in any circumstances.
Doctors use CRISPR gene editing inside a person's body for first time
The tool was used in an attempt to treat a patient's blindness. It may take up to a month to see if it worked.
Interesting!
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