2020 Retailers in trouble thread
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Been to the high street for the first time since lee lockdown after breaking my phone screen last night.
Absolutely packed with people at 10:30, all shops open. Restaurants all open even before lunchtime but no one in. Massive queue for a couple of cafes and strangely the post office.
Just been back to get my fixed phone, pretty quiet, restaurants looked pretty quiet. Got a takeaway brownie and that cafe said they have been really busy and are oven the moon.
Phone repair shop said they have really struggled, guessing no one has been out as much so no one has broken their phones.
Barbers seemed empty.
Absolutely packed with people at 10:30, all shops open. Restaurants all open even before lunchtime but no one in. Massive queue for a couple of cafes and strangely the post office.
Just been back to get my fixed phone, pretty quiet, restaurants looked pretty quiet. Got a takeaway brownie and that cafe said they have been really busy and are oven the moon.
Phone repair shop said they have really struggled, guessing no one has been out as much so no one has broken their phones.
Barbers seemed empty.
Some are some aren’t. There are plenty to fill both, alas neither are. It’s very concerning to have a Primark, the only busy high Street multiple, with no queue on a Saturday afternoon.
There’s no escaping that this virus has and will continue to hit the retail economy hard.
And it’s not going to improve In the immediate I’m afraid.
There’s no escaping that this virus has and will continue to hit the retail economy hard.
And it’s not going to improve In the immediate I’m afraid.
Thankyou4calling said:
Some are some aren’t. There are plenty to fill both, alas neither are. It’s very concerning to have a Primark, the only busy high Street multiple, with no queue on a Saturday afternoon.
There’s no escaping that this virus has and will continue to hit the retail economy hard.
And it’s not going to improve In the immediate I’m afraid.
I hope you did your part and bought some of whatever useless stuff Primark sell!There’s no escaping that this virus has and will continue to hit the retail economy hard.
And it’s not going to improve In the immediate I’m afraid.
frisbee said:
I hope you did your part and bought some of whatever useless stuff Primark sell!
Ha ha! I hope that’s tongue in cheek.Primark sells clothes that are good quality atca remarkable price. I wouldn’t buy a wedding outfit there but for basic, everyday casual wear it’s exceptional.
I really can’t fathom the snobbery exhibited against such shops (Wetherspoons is another example) on here and I think it shows a weak character unable to escape from a web of one upmanship.
So yes, I did spend £20.
Bluewater last night was very quiet, John Lewis was busy but apart from that pretty quiet, majority of people in there were below 20 so not spending money!
The measures taken by bluewater staff and shop workers was fantastic, all very clear and practical, enjoyable shopping experience if I am honest less people no one in the way and 99% of shopper have used antibacterial gel on their hands several times during their visit.
Oh and the closing times are fictional we were still shopping at half 7, official closing times 6!
The measures taken by bluewater staff and shop workers was fantastic, all very clear and practical, enjoyable shopping experience if I am honest less people no one in the way and 99% of shopper have used antibacterial gel on their hands several times during their visit.
Oh and the closing times are fictional we were still shopping at half 7, official closing times 6!
Thankyou4calling said:
frisbee said:
I hope you did your part and bought some of whatever useless stuff Primark sell!
Ha ha! I hope that’s tongue in cheek.Primark sells clothes that are good quality atca remarkable price. I wouldn’t buy a wedding outfit there but for basic, everyday casual wear it’s exceptional.
I really can’t fathom the snobbery exhibited against such shops (Wetherspoons is another example) on here and I think it shows a weak character unable to escape from a web of one upmanship.
So yes, I did spend £20.
Although I’m sure some of them are a bit grim, some also seem full of white collar workers too.
jammy-git said:
The issue with Whetherspoons is not the product but the clientele. Most of the ones I know of and have been to often have the absolute dregs of society in there.
People who say that should try visiting proper city and town pubs. They make Wetherspoons look like Claridges. In Leeds city centre, you can go into pubs like the Duncan or 3 Legs and openly partake in purchase of stolen goods or work out how you're going to unstick yourself from the floor.or any number of other things. The people who go in there don't have much, and are often on the wrong side of the law, but they're often good fun to have a pint with and not trying to set an image by their choice of drinking hole.
Wetherspoon is a Primark or McDonalds of the pub world and in my experience doesn't tend to attract the kind of people Jammy describes as dregs, because those people have 'rougher' places to enjoy. The people in 'spoons are just everyday people.
I have a BMW dealer and Mercedes dealer near me and they were very busy today - much more so than an average Saturday. Not sure how much business they are doing but I found it superficially encouraging at least. Fingers crossed we can bounce back strongly, albeit I am not optimistic. Interesting to see what Sunak comes up with next week. Unless they are going to tax staying at home, I fear the retail and service jobs associated with footfall and town centres are gone for good.
hyphen said:
egor110 said:
I'm surprised there taking walk in's , down here it's appointment only all via a app.
That must be a proper one.The rest dont want any tracking around their income. For HMRC or money laundering purposes.
ant1973 said:
I have a BMW dealer and Mercedes dealer near me and they were very busy today - much more so than an average Saturday. Not sure how much business they are doing but I found it superficially encouraging at least. Fingers crossed we can bounce back strongly, albeit I am not optimistic. Interesting to see what Sunak comes up with next week. Unless they are going to tax staying at home, I fear the retail and service jobs associated with footfall and town centres are gone for good.
The end of furlough seems to have parallels with the Brexit deadline. They really really really are going to end it in whenever.
(and it will be moved forward).
But don't worry, we are headed for a V shaped recovery, everything is going to be fine, look at these stats.
We have a load of people who have worked through this and we have a load of people who have been paid to stay at home. Nice work if you're in the latter group.
If Rishi is going to string this paid hols out even more, he needs to make it even more inclusive.
My day job has slowed right down. My backup supply teaching has stopped. I get no free money. As someone with more letters after my name than my name, I am very lucky to be monkeying on a building site to keep out of my capital. The job is to do with stonework on a premium estate. Many of the house owners seem to be 30-40 men who are swanning around in their pyjamas and painting their fences.
If we are going to give a load of people a once in a lifetime lottery win, can I have some as well too, please.
Mining Subsidence Man said:
ant1973 said:
I have a BMW dealer and Mercedes dealer near me and they were very busy today - much more so than an average Saturday. Not sure how much business they are doing but I found it superficially encouraging at least. Fingers crossed we can bounce back strongly, albeit I am not optimistic. Interesting to see what Sunak comes up with next week. Unless they are going to tax staying at home, I fear the retail and service jobs associated with footfall and town centres are gone for good.
The end of furlough seems to have parallels with the Brexit deadline. They really really really are going to end it in whenever.
(and it will be moved forward).
But don't worry, we are headed for a V shaped recovery, everything is going to be fine, look at these stats.
We have a load of people who have worked through this and we have a load of people who have been paid to stay at home. Nice work if you're in the latter group.
If Rishi is going to string this paid hols out even more, he needs to make it even more inclusive.
My day job has slowed right down. My backup supply teaching has stopped. I get no free money. As someone with more letters after my name than my name, I am very lucky to be monkeying on a building site to keep out of my capital. The job is to do with stonework on a premium estate. Many of the house owners seem to be 30-40 men who are swanning around in their pyjamas and painting their fences.
If we are going to give a load of people a once in a lifetime lottery win, can I have some as well too, please.
Most tax policy is based not on change of behaviour but applying the most burden so you don't consume less.
So cigarettes we know they kill you and have done since the 70s maybe....but its only in last 5 years price is so high its prohibitive. Same with alcohol but its not that expensive yet.
Same with the sugar tax it did not raise much and kept soft drink consumption the same with some switching to diet drinks which are haredly healthy but you pay VAT.
Petrol same its expensive and government realise its hard to add more tax (they will as Oil is low thus making everyone ls shopping more expensive along with travel).
Furlough was and is bribing you with your own money then charging you more for the privilege later on.
Gecko1978 said:
Don't be surprised of Rishi wants his money back in the form of higher taxes.
Probably a mix of direct and indirect taxation.Cheap fuel? Raise fuel duty to bring it back to pre-pandemic cost.
More VAT bands... super luxury VAT for high end goods?
Add tax to non-essentials - e.g. booze
Raise insurance tax
Plus some one time taxes on financial services / insurance / any sector that is doing well?
vaud said:
Probably a mix of direct and indirect taxation.
Cheap fuel? Raise fuel duty to bring it back to pre-pandemic cost.
More VAT bands... super luxury VAT for high end goods?
Add tax to non-essentials - e.g. booze
Raise insurance tax
Plus some one time taxes on financial services / insurance / any sector that is doing well?
All sounds logical in the circumstances - plus a fair bit more!Cheap fuel? Raise fuel duty to bring it back to pre-pandemic cost.
More VAT bands... super luxury VAT for high end goods?
Add tax to non-essentials - e.g. booze
Raise insurance tax
Plus some one time taxes on financial services / insurance / any sector that is doing well?
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
jammy-git said:
The issue with Whetherspoons is not the product but the clientele. Most of the ones I know of and have been to often have the absolute dregs of society in there.
People who say that should try visiting proper city and town pubs. They make Wetherspoons look like Claridges. In Leeds city centre, you can go into pubs like the Duncan or 3 Legs and openly partake in purchase of stolen goods or work out how you're going to unstick yourself from the floor.or any number of other things. The people who go in there don't have much, and are often on the wrong side of the law, but they're often good fun to have a pint with and not trying to set an image by their choice of drinking hole.
Wetherspoon is a Primark or McDonalds of the pub world and in my experience doesn't tend to attract the kind of people Jammy describes as dregs, because those people have 'rougher' places to enjoy. The people in 'spoons are just everyday people.
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