2020 Retailers in trouble thread
Discussion
survivalist said:
Red 4 said:
jammy-git said:
They tried this and the number of cases and deaths was increasing incredibly quickly because people are morons and inconsiderate.
Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
Nonsense. The country locked down before Boris made anything compulsory.Do you not remember the two week of Boris saying "work from home if you can, try to keep 2m away from each other", then hardly anyone actually did it before he then had to order businesses to shut down and people to stay at home?!
The government followed, they did not lead.
Sadly the polling sources are largely a bunch of morons who read the Daily Mail, which is why we have ended up in our current situation.
Govt were happy to let Cheltenham go ahead ( for example) and they wanted things to continue as normal as much as possible.
500k deaths was not politically acceptable though and when the figures leaked he had no choice.
As car as restarting the economy goes though, nobody believes a word Boris and co say anymore. They have made so many mistakes, u-turned so often and displayed such hypocrisy and downright incompetence that it's pretty obvious they don't have a clue.
I think a lot of people are sitting back and seeing how things pan out rather than thinking Boris says it's OK so it must be.
Went into local high st on Saturday. Needed a tin of paint and some brushes, and wanted to support the local has everything independent hardware shop as opposed the nearby orange emporium.
Council have banned cars, effectively pedestrianised it. More pavement space. Hardware shop not happy, as a) they weren't informed and b) believe it'll affect passing trade.
Still, a few people in and buying bits and pieces. My little lad (5) and I bought a smoothie from the coffee shop too.
Hard to compare to 'normal' - one of the pubs had set out some tables in the new vehicle free street, and seemed to be making the most of it.
We decided to use a face covering and use sanitiser on the way in. Took it off on leaving the shop. Wasn't a problem.
(If we have the virus then hopefully wearing it will prevent us passing it on... and touching the mask isn't an issue if we've already got covid!)
Council have banned cars, effectively pedestrianised it. More pavement space. Hardware shop not happy, as a) they weren't informed and b) believe it'll affect passing trade.
Still, a few people in and buying bits and pieces. My little lad (5) and I bought a smoothie from the coffee shop too.
Hard to compare to 'normal' - one of the pubs had set out some tables in the new vehicle free street, and seemed to be making the most of it.
We decided to use a face covering and use sanitiser on the way in. Took it off on leaving the shop. Wasn't a problem.
(If we have the virus then hopefully wearing it will prevent us passing it on... and touching the mask isn't an issue if we've already got covid!)
anonymous said:
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Just come back from a few pints at our local. Was talking to the landlady, she said they've made about 60% of what they'd take on a normal week, however they did close for two days during the week, so not massively off normal.I can understand why they've shut for those two days as well, 90% of their takings on those days were due to evening events (pub quiz, and pool/skittles teams) which can't take place at the moment.
Previous said:
Went into local high st on Saturday. Needed a tin of paint and some brushes, and wanted to support the local has everything independent hardware shop as opposed the nearby orange emporium.
Council have banned cars, effectively pedestrianised it. More pavement space. Hardware shop not happy, as a) they weren't informed and b) believe it'll affect passing trade.
Still, a few people in and buying bits and pieces. My little lad (5) and I bought a smoothie from the coffee shop too.
Hard to compare to 'normal' - one of the pubs had set out some tables in the new vehicle free street, and seemed to be making the most of it.
We decided to use a face covering and use sanitiser on the way in. Took it off on leaving the shop. Wasn't a problem.
(If we have the virus then hopefully wearing it will prevent us passing it on... and touching the mask isn't an issue if we've already got covid!)
what? If you're going to use a mask please use it properly.Council have banned cars, effectively pedestrianised it. More pavement space. Hardware shop not happy, as a) they weren't informed and b) believe it'll affect passing trade.
Still, a few people in and buying bits and pieces. My little lad (5) and I bought a smoothie from the coffee shop too.
Hard to compare to 'normal' - one of the pubs had set out some tables in the new vehicle free street, and seemed to be making the most of it.
We decided to use a face covering and use sanitiser on the way in. Took it off on leaving the shop. Wasn't a problem.
(If we have the virus then hopefully wearing it will prevent us passing it on... and touching the mask isn't an issue if we've already got covid!)
smashing said:
Previous said:
Went into local high st on Saturday. Needed a tin of paint and some brushes, and wanted to support the local has everything independent hardware shop as opposed the nearby orange emporium.
Council have banned cars, effectively pedestrianised it. More pavement space. Hardware shop not happy, as a) they weren't informed and b) believe it'll affect passing trade.
Still, a few people in and buying bits and pieces. My little lad (5) and I bought a smoothie from the coffee shop too.
Hard to compare to 'normal' - one of the pubs had set out some tables in the new vehicle free street, and seemed to be making the most of it.
We decided to use a face covering and use sanitiser on the way in. Took it off on leaving the shop. Wasn't a problem.
(If we have the virus then hopefully wearing it will prevent us passing it on... and touching the mask isn't an issue if we've already got covid!)
what? If you're going to use a mask please use it properly.Council have banned cars, effectively pedestrianised it. More pavement space. Hardware shop not happy, as a) they weren't informed and b) believe it'll affect passing trade.
Still, a few people in and buying bits and pieces. My little lad (5) and I bought a smoothie from the coffee shop too.
Hard to compare to 'normal' - one of the pubs had set out some tables in the new vehicle free street, and seemed to be making the most of it.
We decided to use a face covering and use sanitiser on the way in. Took it off on leaving the shop. Wasn't a problem.
(If we have the virus then hopefully wearing it will prevent us passing it on... and touching the mask isn't an issue if we've already got covid!)
Visted Chichester for the first time in a year this weeknd and could not believe how different it felt.
We parked in the Northgate car park and it was virtually empty, normally on a Satrday the car park would be full. The cinema and bowling complex was still closed, no idea when it will open again.
In the town itself, a lot of the independent retailers on the outskirts have just closed down so there are quite a few empty shops. House of Fraser closed down a while ago now, apparently no company is interested in taking it on so that is another large empty shop. Lots of chains such as Kath Kidson, Oasis, accessorise etc. have closed down.
The majority of restaurants are still closed, they almost feel like they may never reopen.
My girfriend tried to buy some shoes but they didn't have them in her size. The retailer admitted that it was very unlikely he would be getting any more in her size as he had way too much stock and he wasn't ordering any more. I wonder how many retailers are going to remain open to try and sell the stock they have and then close the store?
The big shops such as TK Max, New Look etc. had hardly any customers, as you can't try anything on I didn't see many people actually buying anything.
It felt like a town on life support, if this is being mirrored across the UK then retail is in a worse state than I thought.
We parked in the Northgate car park and it was virtually empty, normally on a Satrday the car park would be full. The cinema and bowling complex was still closed, no idea when it will open again.
In the town itself, a lot of the independent retailers on the outskirts have just closed down so there are quite a few empty shops. House of Fraser closed down a while ago now, apparently no company is interested in taking it on so that is another large empty shop. Lots of chains such as Kath Kidson, Oasis, accessorise etc. have closed down.
The majority of restaurants are still closed, they almost feel like they may never reopen.
My girfriend tried to buy some shoes but they didn't have them in her size. The retailer admitted that it was very unlikely he would be getting any more in her size as he had way too much stock and he wasn't ordering any more. I wonder how many retailers are going to remain open to try and sell the stock they have and then close the store?
The big shops such as TK Max, New Look etc. had hardly any customers, as you can't try anything on I didn't see many people actually buying anything.
It felt like a town on life support, if this is being mirrored across the UK then retail is in a worse state than I thought.
Joey Deacon said:
Visted Chichester for the first time in a year this weeknd and could not believe how different it felt.
We parked in the Northgate car park and it was virtually empty, normally on a Satrday the car park would be full. The cinema and bowling complex was still closed, no idea when it will open again.
In the town itself, a lot of the independent retailers on the outskirts have just closed down so there are quite a few empty shops. House of Fraser closed down a while ago now, apparently no company is interested in taking it on so that is another large empty shop. Lots of chains such as Kath Kidson, Oasis, accessorise etc. have closed down.
The majority of restaurants are still closed, they almost feel like they may never reopen.
My girfriend tried to buy some shoes but they didn't have them in her size. The retailer admitted that it was very unlikely he would be getting any more in her size as he had way too much stock and he wasn't ordering any more. I wonder how many retailers are going to remain open to try and sell the stock they have and then close the store?
The big shops such as TK Max, New Look etc. had hardly any customers, as you can't try anything on I didn't see many people actually buying anything.
It felt like a town on life support, if this is being mirrored across the UK then retail is in a worse state than I thought.
The last time I visited Chi was about 30 years ago and it felt run down then. I cannot imagine COVID has enhanced its economic prospects.We parked in the Northgate car park and it was virtually empty, normally on a Satrday the car park would be full. The cinema and bowling complex was still closed, no idea when it will open again.
In the town itself, a lot of the independent retailers on the outskirts have just closed down so there are quite a few empty shops. House of Fraser closed down a while ago now, apparently no company is interested in taking it on so that is another large empty shop. Lots of chains such as Kath Kidson, Oasis, accessorise etc. have closed down.
The majority of restaurants are still closed, they almost feel like they may never reopen.
My girfriend tried to buy some shoes but they didn't have them in her size. The retailer admitted that it was very unlikely he would be getting any more in her size as he had way too much stock and he wasn't ordering any more. I wonder how many retailers are going to remain open to try and sell the stock they have and then close the store?
The big shops such as TK Max, New Look etc. had hardly any customers, as you can't try anything on I didn't see many people actually buying anything.
It felt like a town on life support, if this is being mirrored across the UK then retail is in a worse state than I thought.
toastyhamster said:
Reported locally that shops/pubs in Nottingham are closing again as the passing trade isn't enough to make it worthwhile. Seems closing the theatres has had a big impact, plus some nearer West Bridgford rely on the football and cricket crowds so aren't re-opening.
here in Birmingham, many of the city centre pubs and bars that opened on the 4th were closed again this weekend.I keep driving through the city as best I can just to get a feel for what's going on.
The atmosphere is weird, as none of the normal adults are in the city any more. Just roaming gangs of teenagers and a billion homeless people.
I've said it before, but it reminds me of the 90s, when nobody worked or lived in the city centre and it had a slightly dangerous feeling.
Not good.
toastyhamster said:
Reported locally that shops/pubs in Nottingham are closing again as the passing trade isn't enough to make it worthwhile. Seems closing the theatres has had a big impact, plus some nearer West Bridgford rely on the football and cricket crowds so aren't re-opening.
This is the problem for our local pub. If they open, then they have real costs, and with 25% capacity, the sums don't add up. If they stay closed, then they're on rent holiday and furloughed staff. They opened last week, loads of demand, but they can't actually satisfy it AND obey the silly rules.
toastyhamster said:
Reported locally that shops/pubs in Nottingham are closing again as the passing trade isn't enough to make it worthwhile. Seems closing the theatres has had a big impact, plus some nearer West Bridgford rely on the football and cricket crowds so aren't re-opening.
Nottingham city was on its arse prior to COVID. Bridlesmith gate was a ghost town, ditto anywhere near Broadmarsh.The council needs to really promote people coming in. Removal of parking restrictions and charges; just get the people in. I mean people with cars and money, not dogs on strings. Big Issue sales does not an economy make.
That's assuming that they WANT the place to survive. Bonkers as the council is, they might be hoping to flatten the lot and build council houses.
Just returned from the Chester as the missus was at the dentist.
It was very quiet in the centre. Looking into shops as I walked by, there were very few customers. Some shops (mainly smaller ones) had barriers across the door (tape and or a table normally) with signs asking you to wait to be allowed in.
The on;y queues were at the banks.
There were more people in face masks than last week, almost all of them were elderly.
It was very quiet in the centre. Looking into shops as I walked by, there were very few customers. Some shops (mainly smaller ones) had barriers across the door (tape and or a table normally) with signs asking you to wait to be allowed in.
The on;y queues were at the banks.
There were more people in face masks than last week, almost all of them were elderly.
Joey Deacon said:
The big shops such as TK Max, New Look etc. had hardly any customers, as you can't try anything on I didn't see many people actually buying anything.
It felt like a town on life support, if this is being mirrored across the UK then retail is in a worse state than I thought.
Exactly as I witnessed in Leeds and then Southampton. Interestingly, however, the suburbs seem to be buoyant. I initially thought that halfway house of not being central city and not enjoying rural bliss would be the most at risk if the new normal sees WFH most of the week, with youngsters still wanting city life and the older enjoying life in the country with only the occasional commute, rendering these suburban areas of not quite central but easy to commute a bit pointless. However, so far these areas seem to be flourishing at the expense of the city centres from what I have seen. It felt like a town on life support, if this is being mirrored across the UK then retail is in a worse state than I thought.
Louis Balfour said:
That's assuming that they WANT the place to survive. Bonkers as the council is, they might be hoping to flatten the lot and build council houses.
In Kingston the old Volts nightclub closed down a while ago, and next to it are a load of 60s office blocks with shops underneath. Most of these shops are empty now, so I suspect the whole site will be flattened and hundreds of help to buy flats built instead. They have already done this across the road with the Royal Exchange development where they are starting to build 300 flats.Sorry I ment shared ownership "Designed to impress" apartments made out of plasterboard and chipboard with the kitchen in the front room, but look at the Zanussi appliances and Grohe mixer taps.
Shnozz said:
Exactly as I witnessed in Leeds and then Southampton. Interestingly, however, the suburbs seem to be buoyant. I initially thought that halfway house of not being central city and not enjoying rural bliss would be the most at risk if the new normal sees WFH most of the week, with youngsters still wanting city life and the older enjoying life in the country with only the occasional commute, rendering these suburban areas of not quite central but easy to commute a bit pointless. However, so far these areas seem to be flourishing at the expense of the city centres from what I have seen.
Yup... look at the house prices in North Leeds that are on a good railway line and/or <£20 taxi into Leeds...Shnozz said:
Exactly as I witnessed in Leeds and then Southampton. Interestingly, however, the suburbs seem to be buoyant. I initially thought that halfway house of not being central city and not enjoying rural bliss would be the most at risk if the new normal sees WFH most of the week, with youngsters still wanting city life and the older enjoying life in the country with only the occasional commute, rendering these suburban areas of not quite central but easy to commute a bit pointless. However, so far these areas seem to be flourishing at the expense of the city centres from what I have seen.
Yes, a common sight now. The city centre shops are very quiet and many places are still closed but the bigger suburban areas seem very busy and not much different to pre-Covid.snuffy said:
Just returned from the Chester as the missus was at the dentist.
It was very quiet in the centre. Looking into shops as I walked by, there were very few customers. Some shops (mainly smaller ones) had barriers across the door (tape and or a table normally) with signs asking you to wait to be allowed in.
The on;y queues were at the banks.
There were more people in face masks than last week, almost all of them were elderly.
A friend was there yesterday and said exactly the same as you (although the banks were obviously closed). Almost a ghost town.It was very quiet in the centre. Looking into shops as I walked by, there were very few customers. Some shops (mainly smaller ones) had barriers across the door (tape and or a table normally) with signs asking you to wait to be allowed in.
The on;y queues were at the banks.
There were more people in face masks than last week, almost all of them were elderly.
Apparently La Fattoria (Italian on Lower Bridge Street) was rammed though with zero social distancing and no masks worn. So much so, it made her uncomfortable.
Down by the river was also very busy yesterday.
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