To BONG or not to BONG, that is the question

[ATG]

booboise blueboys said:

So we can get Big Ben to ring on New Years Eve so it chimes in time with some other EU countries but not for our own independence? Why aren't the government pulling out all the stops to make this happen? Do they even care?

If they've got any sense of perspective, then, no, they do not care.

[MDMetal]

ATG said:

booboise blueboys said:

So we can get Big Ben to ring on New Years Eve so it chimes in time with some other EU countries but not for our own independence? Why aren't the government pulling out all the stops to make this happen? Do they even care?

If they've got any sense of perspective, then, no, they do not care.

Perhaps not but the issue is now that a neutral action (the clock bell can't pick sides) seems to have been slammed down as divisive on the basis it's somehow a delayed victory party instead of marking a new chapter but it's fine to hang a pro EU banner from the white cliffs? So the very people who pretended a bell ringing is an issue have scampered off to do something that is transparently divisive.

It's just childish, if we're not going to mark it we're not going to mark it and neither side should be using national landmarks in any way. (I do understand the government doesn't own the white cliffs but they're in the top 5 "what's British" landmarks)

Whatever silly rules are decided on clearly they should be applied equally.

[crankedup]

MDMetal said:

ATG said:

booboise blueboys said:

So we can get Big Ben to ring on New Years Eve so it chimes in time with some other EU countries but not for our own independence? Why aren't the government pulling out all the stops to make this happen? Do they even care?

If they've got any sense of perspective, then, no, they do not care.

Perhaps not but the issue is now that a neutral action (the clock bell can't pick sides) seems to have been slammed down as divisive on the basis it's somehow a delayed victory party instead of marking a new chapter but it's fine to hang a pro EU banner from the white cliffs? So the very people who pretended a bell ringing is an issue have scampered off to do something that is transparently divisive.

It's just childish, if we're not going to mark it we're not going to mark it and neither side should be using national landmarks in any way. (I do understand the government doesn't own the white cliffs but they're in the top 5 "what's British" landmarks)

Whatever silly rules are decided on clearly they should be applied equally.

Agreed, it seems even more divisive to allow banners but not bells. What is the point of hanging a banner, it’s not celebrating our leaving but mourning it, so divisive.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

Won't most people be in bed asleep though.

I know I will as long as some ahole doesn't let off fireworks.

[don'tbesilly]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

Won't most people be in bed asleep though.

I know I will as long as some ahole doesn't let off fireworks.

Bless, your life must be a nightmare around the 5th November, how do you cope?

But, but, but the law, no-one takes a blind bit of notice of the law!

[Digga]

don'tbesilly said:

Stay in Bed Instead said:

Won't most people be in bed asleep though.

I know I will as long as some ahole doesn't let off fireworks.

Bless, your life must be a nightmare around the 5th November, how do you cope?

But, but, but the law, no-one takes a blind bit of notice of the law!

Have to say, both goods points he's made.

[ATG]

crankedup said:

Agreed, it seems even more divisive to allow banners but not bells. What is the point of hanging a banner, it’s not celebrating our leaving but mourning it, so divisive.

I agree, however there is a difference between either private celebration or private mourning and an official event. If some people want to let off some fireworks, dance round the maypole or some banners, that's fine with me. They can celebrate or mourn as they please. Given the nation remains as evenly split as ever over Brexit, national government should be doing neither.

[MDMetal]

ATG said:

crankedup said:

Agreed, it seems even more divisive to allow banners but not bells. What is the point of hanging a banner, it’s not celebrating our leaving but mourning it, so divisive.

I agree, however there is a difference between either private celebration or private mourning and an official event. If some people want to let off some fireworks, dance round the maypole or some banners, that's fine with me. They can celebrate or mourn as they please. Given the nation remains as evenly split as ever over Brexit, national government should be doing neither.

Of course they can indeed however we have this odd situation where parliament has deemed it has control over big ben but not the white cliffs as they're not own publicly (or whatever) so now there's a farcical situation where leavers+remainers won't get a bell to ring in a change (again stressing a neutral standpoint, it's not a victory/celebration/death knell it's just a bell marking a moment of change) but Remainers have gone off to crowd fund a large banner. So where are the divisions being created now?

Of course no one will care in 6 months but neither are healing divisions are they?

[amusingduck]

ATG said:

I agree, however there is a difference between either private celebration or private mourning and an official event. If some people want to let off some fireworks, dance round the maypole or some banners, that's fine with me. They can celebrate or mourn as they please. Given the nation remains as evenly split as ever over Brexit, national government should be doing neither.

How so?

[Nickgnome]

amusingduck said:

ATG said:

I agree, however there is a difference between either private celebration or private mourning and an official event. If some people want to let off some fireworks, dance round the maypole or some banners, that's fine with me. They can celebrate or mourn as they please. Given the nation remains as evenly split as ever over Brexit, national government should be doing neither.

How so?

Acceptance is not unqualified support.

Why should people who thought leaving the Eu, be at least foolish and at worst damaging, suddenly change their mind?

[Dont like rolls]

Nickgnome said:

Acceptance is not unqualified support.

Why should people who thought leaving the Eu, be at least foolish and at worst damaging, suddenly change their mind?

Why then object if those who think otherwise have a bit of a knees up ?

[ATG]

Dont like rolls said:

Nickgnome said:

Acceptance is not unqualified support.

Why should people who thought leaving the Eu, be at least foolish and at worst damaging, suddenly change their mind?

Why then object if those who think otherwise have a bit of a knees up ?

I don't think many do. But do it privately. Don't make it some kind of official national event. Let's not pretend the nation as a whole thinks leaving the EU is something to celebrate.

[Down and out]

ATG said:

I don't think many do. But do it privately. Don't make it some kind of official national event. Let's not pretend the nation as a whole thinks leaving the EU is something to celebrate.

Sod the minority, party on.

[Dont like rolls]

ATG said:

I don't think many do. But do it privately. Don't make it some kind of official national event. Let's not pretend the nation as a whole thinks leaving the EU is something to celebrate.

Why should they ?
It most definitely is a National event for the majority that voted for such a massive change of direction for the Uk.

Kill joys where ever they are just suck mushrooms.

[Nickgnome]

Dont like rolls said:

Nickgnome said:

Acceptance is not unqualified support.

Why should people who thought leaving the Eu, be at least foolish and at worst damaging, suddenly change their mind?

Why then object if those who think otherwise have a bit of a knees up ?

Perhaps you could point me to a post where I objected to your knees up.

[powerstroke]

Nickgnome said:

Acceptance is not unqualified support.

Why should people who thought leaving the Eu, be at least foolish and at worst damaging, suddenly change their mind?

Yes exactly , they won't despite us doing well or very well post Brexit , narrow minded, unadventurous , inward looking people don't like change ,
they seem to be the same type of reasonably educated but not the free thinking public school types or people who pushed back against their state education ,
sort of bland lower middle class people that the state school system churns out, worker drones perhaps with a hive mentality hence voted remain and will never change their opinion .. especially if they think they have been successful and are /were happy with their lot ...

[DeepEnd]

powerstroke said:

Yes exactly , they won't despite us doing well or very well post Brexit , narrow minded, unadventurous , inward looking people don't like change ,
they seem to be the same type of reasonably educated but not the free thinking public school types or people who pushed back against their state education ,
sort of bland lower middle class people that the state school system churns out, worker drones perhaps with a hive mentality hence voted remain and will never change their opinion .. especially if they think they have been successful and are /were happy with their lot ...

There is a complete chapter in this one post.

[Rewe]

powerstroke said:

Yes exactly , they won't despite us doing well or very well post Brexit , narrow minded, unadventurous , inward looking people don't like change ,
they seem to be the same type of reasonably educated but not the free thinking public school types or people who pushed back against their state education ,
sort of bland lower middle class people that the state school system churns out, worker drones perhaps with a hive mentality hence voted remain and will never change their opinion .. especially if they think they have been successful and are /were happy with their lot ...

That is quite an assumption! (And very badly written)

[Nickgnome]

powerstroke said:

Nickgnome said:

Acceptance is not unqualified support.

Why should people who thought leaving the Eu, be at least foolish and at worst damaging, suddenly change their mind?

Yes exactly , they won't despite us doing well or very well post Brexit , narrow minded, unadventurous , inward looking people don't like change ,
they seem to be the same type of reasonably educated but not the free thinking public school types or people who pushed back against their state education ,
sort of bland lower middle class people that the state school system churns out, worker drones perhaps with a hive mentality hence voted remain and will never change their opinion .. especially if they think they have been successful and are /were happy with their lot ...

You really should get that chip off your shoulder.

What’s with the inward looking bks. You really are about as clueless as they come.

You have no evidence or any of your nonsense it’s just a rant.

If a company starts off small and in a few years trades abroad and then globally I suppose on those partners directors are inward looking narrow minded types. That’s why the company grows into the £100S million turnover. With offices around the globe. Plenty of others just the same.

Always looking to new markets and researching products and engineering excellence.

You are about as far from the reality as it is possible to get. Perhaps mending tractors in the mud has got to you.

[powerstroke]

Rewe said:

powerstroke said:

Yes exactly , they won't despite us doing well or very well post Brexit , narrow minded, unadventurous , inward looking people don't like change ,
they seem to be the same type of reasonably educated but not the free thinking public school types or people who pushed back against their state education ,
sort of bland lower middle class people that the state school system churns out, worker drones perhaps with a hive mentality hence voted remain and will never change their opinion .. especially if they think they have been successful and are /were happy with their lot ...

That is quite an assumption! (And very badly written)

Yep despite the money spent by by my folks I'm still dyslexic ... Intus Si Recte Ne Labora.. and all that !!!!