What is the one thing London needs most?

[Nickgnome]

FazerBoy said:

Well, he’s not competent or effective. I rest my case.

Not sure why you need to get personal though. You have no idea whether I have ever ‘stood up to do anything’.

That is just pure un-evidenced bull st.

It’s not personal. I don’t think anyone has the right to criticise if they’ve not done anything remotely similar.

Put up or shut up as they say.

P.S. Question. Do you consider yourself either racist or Islamaphobic, or both maybe?

Edited by Nickgnome on Thursday 16th January 21:51

[Nickgnome]

Robertj21a said:

Ooh, hit a nerve....

Who said I wasn't a Londoner ?

On the basis you never give a straight answer it’s hardly worth discussing with you.

[valiant]

dreamcracker said:

A toll free motorway straight through the middle from North to South.

Why are there no trams in Central London?

We stuck them underground and called them tubes!


Actually, Red Ken wanted to expand the tram network to have a north/south and an east/west route but it got canned when Boris got in.

[anonymous-user]

I love London. I love the history, the architecture, the hustle and bustle, the glamour, the buzz. But by that I mean central London though and not the rest. I don't enjoy driving through North London to get to the centre. I don't envy the people living in some of the crime-ridden parts or the gated, high - walled posh parts that feel so cold and isolated. Some of the suburbs and districts look so unfriendly and ugly.
I love the tube! Weirdo?
This is coming from a provincial who spends time there for work on occasions and quite rarely ventures down for pleasure, for a night over and a theatre trip. So yes might not be so appealing if I was to live there.
I can't understand why theres so much culture, so much to do and see there, so much opportunity, yet the kids are busy knifing each other! Isn't it a massive failure that these two realities can co-exist?

I do agree that this centralised economy is a bad thing. I do agree with shipping out some of the public funded professions and centres of work and investment to other towns and cities around the country. I don't say this through wishing London to lose out, simply to hope that they can handle a few departures and the gain for the other cities will outweigh their loss. The rest of the country needs to do better though in other ways. Infrastructure, culture, finance. Create a good bit of competition. Barring something cataclysmic, London will be the number one for centuries though. It's got so big. You can't begrudge it that.

[FazerBoy]

Nickgnome said:

That is just pure un-evidenced bull st.

It’s not personal. I don’t think anyone has the right to criticise if they’ve not done anything remotely similar.

Put up or shut up as they say.

P.S. Question. Do you consider yourself either racist or Islamaphobic, or both maybe?

Edited by Nickgnome on Thursday 16th January 21:51

Well, I hate gnomes.

[Crackie]

Nickgnome said:

Crackie said:

I hope you got a buzz from your working life and still do if still working.

I could moan endlessly about the grind and pressure to keep the plates spinning but at the end of the day I wanted to do it all again the next day and the following. Can’t really ask for more than that.

Absolutely, I've enjoyed all of it and still get the buzz. Much of that buzz comes from developing new processes and products, and their associated patents, and working with people who are at the pinnacle of their field. In my 25 years experience, none of the people, at the pinnacle, have lived in London or worked there.

I think claiming that " The best and the bright migrate from all over the UK and abroad to live and work there. " misrepresents the situation. I know several who meet the best and brightest criteria and work for London based companies or for companies with offices there; the last thing they would consider is living in London. Similarly, nobody I've met subscribes to " many that do not like the pace move away. " In my experience, people leave for many different reasons but primarily because they weren't happy with their, or their immediate family's, quality of life. Certainly not because they couldn't hack the pace.

[Tin Hat]

Nickgnome said:

Robertj21a said:

Ooh, hit a nerve....

Who said I wasn't a Londoner ?

On the basis you never give a straight answer it’s hardly worth discussing with you.

Let’s hope that if he is a Londoner he plans to leave ASAP so that we can carry on living in the best city in the world with one less moaner.

I really don’t get all the enthusiastic negativity about this city, I feel privileged to have grown up and to live and work here, there is nothing quite like it. It would be marginally better if the Mayor trundled off to inconvenience somewhere else.

I suppose that some of us can see all of the good things, others just want to focus on the bad parts. Try spending a weekend here with an open mind and you may even enjoy it!

[Halb]

Order 66

[RacingPete]

A proper model shop that sells trains, scalextric and radio control cars!

[anonymous-user]

Don’t forget the famous saying:

“If you are tired of London you are tired of life”

Derived from the original words of Dr Samuel Johnson in 1777.

“Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford”

[fatboy18]

dreamcracker said:

A toll free motorway straight through the middle from North to South.

Why are there no trams in Central London?

Like I said, the transport is going backwards, Clapham common used to have a massive tram terminal, then the tracks were all ripped up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trams_in_London

Mind you,my Dad was pleased, he often used to get his bicycle wheel caught in the tram track

Edited by fatboy18 on Thursday 16th January 23:42

[Nickgnome]

Crackie said:

Absolutely, I've enjoyed all of it and still get the buzz. Much of that buzz comes from developing new processes and products, and their associated patents, and working with people who are at the pinnacle of their field. In my 25 years experience, none of the people, at the pinnacle, have lived in London or worked there.

I think claiming that " The best and the bright migrate from all over the UK and abroad to live and work there. " misrepresents the situation. I know several who meet the best and brightest criteria and work for London based companies or for companies with offices there; the last thing they would consider is living in London. Similarly, nobody I've met subscribes to " many that do not like the pace move away. " In my experience, people leave for many different reasons but primarily because they weren't happy with their, or their immediate family's, quality of life. Certainly not because they couldn't hack the pace.

I think that’s great.

I never said all the talent, but many have and I would suggest too many do migrate to London. I am really pleased we are finally trying to rebalance our economy geographically.

Whilst I think HS2 isa good idea I also consider we have got it ass about face. Northern interconnection is way more important than the NS link.

Pace and quality of life are inextricably linked in and around London. They go hand in fist. People in aLondon tend to earn a lot more and that becomes a need rather than a want. Send your kids to private school, or buy a house next to an excellent state school, and pay for extra tuition and activities. It’s hard to get off that wheel for many.

Having said that on balance I enjoyed where I worked and above all the people I had the privilege to work with.

[fatboy18]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

valiant said:

fatboy18 said:

o question......What do you call London? Where does it stop and start? Anywhere where Transport for London Starts? 20 mph speed limits? What a fkin Joke they are Anywhere Inside the M25? What's the definition of "London"

Now you’ve done it!

We had this thread before and it basically ended in handbags at dawn and many deaths were recorded. Best not go there...

There are a million opinions on this, but only one right answer. There are 32 London Boroughs. They make up London. None of those places are in Kent, Surrey, Herts or non existent Middx, although they may have been in the past. Anywhere not in a London Borough is not in London.

Hold on, Sutton Surrey is in the London Borough also Coulsdon Surrey which is in the London borough low emission Zone.

[psi310398]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

There are a million opinions on this, but only one right answer. There are 32 London Boroughs. They make up London. None of those places are in Kent, Surrey, Herts or non existent Middx, although they may have been in the past. Anywhere not in a London Borough is not in London.

Well, apart from anywhere in the City of London, none of which is in a London borough.

[Halb]

fatboy18 said:

o question......What do you call London? Where does it stop and start? Anywhere where Transport for London Starts? 20 mph speed limits? What a fkin Joke they are Anywhere Inside the M25? What's the definition of "London"

mapmen, mapmen, mapmen.tum de tum.

Where does London stop?
Jay Foreman
https://youtu.be/UAusbJmRB0c

[fatboy18]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Nickgnome said:

I thought Boris was a pretty good

I think Boris should be in jail for some of the things he got up to as London mayor, including using taxpayers money to give a £100K grant to a firm whose owner he was fking.

Boris is Boris, if you actually followed what he did I too agree he should have been put in Jail.

I don't trust a single thing that sly pratt says

[fatboy18]

Halb said:

fatboy18 said:

o question......What do you call London? Where does it stop and start? Anywhere where Transport for London Starts? 20 mph speed limits? What a fkin Joke they are Anywhere Inside the M25? What's the definition of "London"

mapmen, mapmen, mapmen.tum de tum.

Where does London stop?
Jay Foreman
https://youtu.be/UAusbJmRB0c

Now that was very informative and done with good humor

[Halb]

fatboy18 said:

Now that was very informative and done with good humor

they are really good, watch their other map stuff.

[Mr Tidy]

fatboy18 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

valiant said:

fatboy18 said:

o question......What do you call London? Where does it stop and start? Anywhere where Transport for London Starts? 20 mph speed limits? What a fkin Joke they are Anywhere Inside the M25? What's the definition of "London"

Now you’ve done it!

We had this thread before and it basically ended in handbags at dawn and many deaths were recorded. Best not go there...

There are a million opinions on this, but only one right answer. There are 32 London Boroughs. They make up London. None of those places are in Kent, Surrey, Herts or non existent Middx, although they may have been in the past. Anywhere not in a London Borough is not in London.

Hold on, Sutton Surrey is in the London Borough also Coulsdon Surrey which is in the London borough low emission Zone.

Sutton and Worcester Park are both in London boroughs, as are Chessington and Kingston even though they are also in Surrey!

So is Bromley, even though it is in Kent.

Sorry Twig, but you got this badly wrong! Where are you based anyway?

Then again they are all pretty miserable places if you own a car!

Edited by Mr Tidy on Friday 17th January 02:03

[alabbasi]

blueg33 said:

It needs affordable homes, and lots of them One borough I know needs to build about 1800pa, last year they did 18.

Another borough has a 40 plus year waiting list for affordable housing

Market forces. Subsidized housing raise prices, not lower them. Getting rid of all subsidies will lower prices for everyone as only people who can afford to pay for housing can rent or buy, and homes can only be sold or rented if they're priced affordably. People who don't work in London can afford to leave. People who do, don't get the subsidies and cannot live anywhere else.