Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?
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Cruise ship +79 new cases today.
China numbers looking much better on the whole but Hubei is still looking nasty.
132 deaths today. That's the 4th worst day to date and only a small difference between 2nd and 3rd and 4th.
Total deaths is officially approaching 2000 and will probably trip past this tomorrow.
I am still not convinced the new cases numbers is true data because there is just not really any change. The last 4 days there have been almost the exact same numbers of new cases. I would have thought there would be some variation.
The other worrying thing is we know it takes 3-5 weeks for the virus to become deadly in a human, so the deaths we are seeing today are from people who caught the virus back at the start of the year or maybe mid January. This is when there were 1000 cases a day. Today they report IRO 2000 new cases a day.... so its not looking good for the long term in Hubei.
China numbers looking much better on the whole but Hubei is still looking nasty.
132 deaths today. That's the 4th worst day to date and only a small difference between 2nd and 3rd and 4th.
Total deaths is officially approaching 2000 and will probably trip past this tomorrow.
I am still not convinced the new cases numbers is true data because there is just not really any change. The last 4 days there have been almost the exact same numbers of new cases. I would have thought there would be some variation.
The other worrying thing is we know it takes 3-5 weeks for the virus to become deadly in a human, so the deaths we are seeing today are from people who caught the virus back at the start of the year or maybe mid January. This is when there were 1000 cases a day. Today they report IRO 2000 new cases a day.... so its not looking good for the long term in Hubei.
Prizam said:
Gregmitchell said:
Jim on the hill said:
You don't really hear of families dying at home due to the flu
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/18/coro...
Weird isn't it, China (CCP) has done something pretty despicable to its own citizens, wonder if well ever find out the truth?https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/18/coro...
Come on then. Let's work out the probability of 4 members of the same family dying from this virus.
This has all been cover for a CCP purge.
red_slr said:
The other worrying thing is we know it takes 3-5 weeks for the virus to become deadly in a human, so the deaths we are seeing today are from people who caught the virus back at the start of the year or maybe mid January. This is when there were 1000 cases a day. Today they report IRO 2000 new cases a day.... so its not looking good for the long term in Hubei.
It takes 5 weeks to kill? That's news to me, do you have a source or anything to back that up? Oh good, we're obviously not getting CoronaVirus enough in the UK, so London Mayoral candidate Shaun Bailey wants to up the odds of us getting it by bringing the Olympics to London if Tokyo is forced to cancel it.
https://www.cityam.com/exclusive-bailey-calls-for-...
Bring a few tens of million sportspersons and spectators to London, what could go wrong
I'm sure we've still got many of the necessary sporting facilities hanging around but not sure where he thinks everyone will stay, pretty sure they resold or bulldozed and rebuilt most of the Athlete's Village by now and gave Stratford back to the stabby types, it's been 8 years ...
https://www.cityam.com/exclusive-bailey-calls-for-...
Bring a few tens of million sportspersons and spectators to London, what could go wrong
I'm sure we've still got many of the necessary sporting facilities hanging around but not sure where he thinks everyone will stay, pretty sure they resold or bulldozed and rebuilt most of the Athlete's Village by now and gave Stratford back to the stabby types, it's been 8 years ...
Nayche said:
red_slr said:
The other worrying thing is we know it takes 3-5 weeks for the virus to become deadly in a human, so the deaths we are seeing today are from people who caught the virus back at the start of the year or maybe mid January. This is when there were 1000 cases a day. Today they report IRO 2000 new cases a day.... so its not looking good for the long term in Hubei.
It takes 5 weeks to kill? That's news to me, do you have a source or anything to back that up? Click death tab.
red_slr said:
Can you explain how you get to 3 - 5 weeks to kill? on a side not the UK cases will be dropping down dead in the next 5 days then...I was starting to feel a bit more sanguine about how this might pan out, for the UK at least. Then:
SNP Health Minister says coronavirus no cause for panic
When the SNP are telling you not to panic, that's the time to start panicking. Panic hard, and then panic a bit harder.
SNP Health Minister says coronavirus no cause for panic
When the SNP are telling you not to panic, that's the time to start panicking. Panic hard, and then panic a bit harder.
Gregmitchell said:
red_slr said:
Can you explain how you get to 3 - 5 weeks to kill? on a side not the UK cases will be dropping down dead in the next 5 days then...red_slr said:
This site is also good. Can now filter it to only show countries other than China, and excluding the cruise ship outbreaks.http://avatorl.org/covid-19/
Gregmitchell said:
red_slr said:
Can you explain how you get to 3 - 5 weeks to kill? on a side not the UK cases will be dropping down dead in the next 5 days then...China is a country where political prisoners have their organs harvested and sold to the highest bidder. I can believe almost anything of them... https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellne...
Years ago I saw a book of photographs showing a long, long ditch. In front were prisoners with a single rifleman ready to shoot them. Behind the rifelment were a line of hospital vans and surgeons ready for the harvesting. Apparently the prisoners were injected with blood anti-coagulant before being shot.
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king vile!
Years ago I saw a book of photographs showing a long, long ditch. In front were prisoners with a single rifleman ready to shoot them. Behind the rifelment were a line of hospital vans and surgeons ready for the harvesting. Apparently the prisoners were injected with blood anti-coagulant before being shot.
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king vile!Gregmitchell said:
red_slr said:
Can you explain how you get to 3 - 5 weeks to kill? on a side not the UK cases will be dropping down dead in the next 5 days then...red_slr said:
Gregmitchell said:
red_slr said:
Can you explain how you get to 3 - 5 weeks to kill? on a side not the UK cases will be dropping down dead in the next 5 days then...nffcforever said:
This site is also good. Can now filter it to only show countries other than China, and excluding the cruise ship outbreaks.
http://avatorl.org/covid-19/
Using the data on page 4 of this site, you can eliminate China and the cruise ships and come up with some estimated CFRs based on what should be more reliable data from other countries:http://avatorl.org/covid-19/
Method 1:
deaths as of today / cases as of x days ago
eg:
5 / 105 = 4.75% CFR ... (where 105 was the no. of cases 3 weeks ago)
Method 2:
deaths as of y days ago / (deaths as of y days ago + recovered as of today)
eg:
3 / (3 + 153) = 5% CFR … (where 3 was the no. of deaths 6 days ago)
Obviously, these are based on confirmed cases which are still likely to be the more serious infections, so the %s if you were able to include all the mild or asymptomatic infections would be lower.
Edited by nffcforever on Wednesday 19th February 14:17
TheJimi said:
Mr Whippy said:
I like tin foil hats.
This has all been cover for a CCP purge.
This situation is a lot of things, but it's not that, imo.This has all been cover for a CCP purge.
I don't doubt that in some way, shape or form, China has dropped the ball or made mistakes, but a deliberate act?.
Nah.
A few thousand dead?
Numbers that diffuse into the daily deaths of a 10mill+ city and 20mill+ region.
For all we know it’s a ruse for China citizens and the rest of the world is exposed to the propaganda.
No idea... but CCP is a special case. And their cases of this virus seem to be a special case too.
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