Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

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Gregmitchell

1,745 posts

118 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Thankyou4calling said:
How much longer are we going to keep trotting out that we need to wait another week to see what happens?

Wait another week

Wait another week

I’ve waited enough weeks!

There’s no empty shelves, there’s no bodies piling up, the streets aren’t full of Zombies.

I’m moving on to the next big thing.

Bring it on.
Did you fall and hit your head? Read about the economic fall out from this, then the people who have died, then the spread in Asia that is getting worse.

- Predicted drop in passenger numbers because of outbreak will cost industry $29.3bn

- losses in China’s domestic market will hit $12.8bn

- Car sales in China down 92%

- Apple profit warning

- Drug production at risk

etc etc,

please now leave the grown ups to talk.


Gregmitchell

1,745 posts

118 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Just the Flu ain't it..... long incubation, then boom hits you.


2 new cases in Italy: the wife (a high school teacher) and friend of the previously confirmed case of a 38-year-old man near Milan, who is now in critical condition in intensive care. In late January, the man had dinner with a friend who had recently returned from China. The friend is now undergoing tests. 2 more people are showing similar symptoms and are being tested. About 60 contacts of the man have been put under quarantine. Emergency procedures are being set in place in the firm where the man works.

2 new deaths and 13 new cases in Iran: 7 in Qom, 4 in Tehran, and 2 in Rasht.

93 New Cases in South Korea

jshell

11,032 posts

206 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Gregmitchell said:
Did you fall and hit your head? Read about the economic fall out from this, then the people who have died, then the spread in Asia that is getting worse.

- Predicted drop in passenger numbers because of outbreak will cost industry $29.3bn

- losses in China’s domestic market will hit $12.8bn

- Car sales in China down 92%

- Apple profit warning

- Drug production at risk

etc etc,

please now leave the grown ups to talk.
Oil price collapse means cancelled/delayed projects and effects on employment too.

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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jshell said:
Gregmitchell said:
Did you fall and hit your head? Read about the economic fall out from this, then the people who have died, then the spread in Asia that is getting worse.

- Predicted drop in passenger numbers because of outbreak will cost industry $29.3bn

- losses in China’s domestic market will hit $12.8bn

- Car sales in China down 92%

- Apple profit warning

- Drug production at risk

etc etc,

please now leave the grown ups to talk.
Oil price collapse means cancelled/delayed projects and effects on employment too.
Oil price collapse?


red_slr

17,266 posts

190 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Gregmitchell said:
Just the Flu ain't it..... long incubation, then boom hits you.


2 new cases in Italy: the wife (a high school teacher) and friend of the previously confirmed case of a 38-year-old man near Milan, who is now in critical condition in intensive care. In late January, the man had dinner with a friend who had recently returned from China. The friend is now undergoing tests. 2 more people are showing similar symptoms and are being tested. About 60 contacts of the man have been put under quarantine. Emergency procedures are being set in place in the firm where the man works.
Oh yes that's just lovely, guess where I am going next week...

nffcforever

793 posts

192 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Italy sounds concerning but seems like they’ve got some measures to try and keep it under control....

“The Councilor for Health of the Lombardy Region, Giulio Gallera, explained that "all the necessary diagnostic tests have already been carried out on the doctors, nurses and patients of the Codogno hospital where the patient tested positive for Coronavirus was presented. We all have tampons ready.”

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_...

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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I suppose it *IS* kinda like plugging a leak...

Coolbananas

4,417 posts

201 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Thankyou4calling said:
How much longer are we going to keep trotting out that we need to wait another week to see what happens?

Wait another week

Wait another week

I’ve waited enough weeks!

There’s no empty shelves, there’s no bodies piling up, the streets aren’t full of Zombies.

I’m moving on to the next big thing.

Bring it on.
It's not about you, your expectations or your apparently limited ability to understand stuff though, is it? smile We've been informed by those researching this that it could only peak in April or May. Early day's yet to count chickens and think the bullet has been dodged.

Anyway, the reality is that you are too chicken/yellow belly to actually prove you don't care. Given your assertions, you need to demonstrate them to show you aren't just a blowhard. We need to see custard alongside a dated placard and a picture of you kissing someone in Wuhan, otherwise you're just fake billy big bks on a car forum. biggrin

LimSlip

800 posts

55 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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V6 Pushfit said:
We’ve even had people tonight congratulating eachother for the Uk recoveries being down to screening. Unbelievable. Clue: it’s too late for screening once you’ve got it.
You've posted a lot of information I agree with, but I can see why you have also been subject to so much derision on this thread. My comment was regarding the total number of cases in the UK, which is lower than I (and many others) expected would be the case at this point. I made no assertion that screening had anything to do with recovery, as with many other posts you are reading what you want to see.

Gregmitchell

1,745 posts

118 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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red_slr said:
Gregmitchell said:
Just the Flu ain't it..... long incubation, then boom hits you.


2 new cases in Italy: the wife (a high school teacher) and friend of the previously confirmed case of a 38-year-old man near Milan, who is now in critical condition in intensive care. In late January, the man had dinner with a friend who had recently returned from China. The friend is now undergoing tests. 2 more people are showing similar symptoms and are being tested. About 60 contacts of the man have been put under quarantine. Emergency procedures are being set in place in the firm where the man works.
Oh yes that's just lovely, guess where I am going next week...
Looking to prevent a further spread of the virus, officials urged residents of the northern towns of Codogno and Castiglione d’Adda to stay at home and avoid any social gatherings.

I actually spoke to someone who works in Milan yesterday, they did say their company has said not travel within the country or externally.

to edit, Italy now has 14 cases of which 7 are critical.

Edited by Gregmitchell on Friday 21st February 12:52


Edited by Gregmitchell on Friday 21st February 12:53

red_slr

17,266 posts

190 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Update from our British friend, he is out, but only for a few minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x_UhDK_K6U


Maxf

8,409 posts

242 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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red_slr said:
Update from our British friend, he is out, but only for a few minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x_UhDK_K6U
I’d be thinking of giving up the tabs if I was him!

arguti

1,775 posts

187 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Ridgemont said:
And to be clear it is accepting an inevitable outcome. But mitigating it. It appears to be a pandemic and that containment has failed.
That’s not the end of the world; it just means that focus turns on reducing the impact. Yes you can do leaflets and text messages but I suspect from my experience of being in and out of the local NHS clinic until stuff gets real behaviours won’t change. Loud casting government messages in the interim is pointless.
It's not pointless - if a few people change their mind and heed the advice and don't pitch up in A&E, it can prevent potential spread to immuno-compromised - the logistics in terms of moving very ill patients and decontaminating parts of A&E have profound implications - please don't ask me how I know!

nffcforever

793 posts

192 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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arguti said:
Ridgemont said:
And to be clear it is accepting an inevitable outcome. But mitigating it. It appears to be a pandemic and that containment has failed.
That’s not the end of the world; it just means that focus turns on reducing the impact. Yes you can do leaflets and text messages but I suspect from my experience of being in and out of the local NHS clinic until stuff gets real behaviours won’t change. Loud casting government messages in the interim is pointless.
It's not pointless - if a few people change their mind and heed the advice and don't pitch up in A&E, it can prevent potential spread to immuno-compromised - the logistics in terms of moving very ill patients and decontaminating parts of A&E have profound implications - please don't ask me how I know!
Exactly. There was that guy on here who came back from somewhere in Asia feeling a bit rough, apparently wasn’t that bothered, eventually called the nhs but then missed their return call and seemingly decided he’d done all he could/should and so presumably has then just carried on socialising etc. Potentially, he could be someone with very mild symptoms who is now spreading it about - but we don’t know because he (presumably) hasn’t been tested.

Point being that if the messaging and instructions were a bit more widely advertised and a bit more vociferous, then maybe people like that would heed the advice more and that would help to at the very least slow down and disperse over time any potential spread so that the nhs stands a chance of being able to deal with a significant number of severe infections.

Edited by nffcforever on Friday 21st February 13:15

arguti

1,775 posts

187 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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nffcforever said:
arguti said:
Ridgemont said:
And to be clear it is accepting an inevitable outcome. But mitigating it. It appears to be a pandemic and that containment has failed.
That’s not the end of the world; it just means that focus turns on reducing the impact. Yes you can do leaflets and text messages but I suspect from my experience of being in and out of the local NHS clinic until stuff gets real behaviours won’t change. Loud casting government messages in the interim is pointless.
It's not pointless - if a few people change their mind and heed the advice and don't pitch up in A&E, it can prevent potential spread to immuno-compromised - the logistics in terms of moving very ill patients and decontaminating parts of A&E have profound implications - please don't ask me how I know!
Exactly. There was that guy on here who came back from somewhere in Asia feeling a bit rough, apparently wasn’t that bothered, eventually called the nhs but then missed their return call and seemingly decided he’d done all he could/should and so presumably has then just carried on socialising etc. Potentially, he could be someone with very mild symptoms who is now spreading it about - but we don’t know because he (presumably) hasn’t been tested.
As mentioned before,prior to beginning of last week, they allegedly didn't have the kit/training/capacity to test in Africa at all - so African figures will be low at present and also need to factor in the huge amounts of Chinese working on infrastructure projects throughout Africa.

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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nffcforever said:
Thankyou4calling said:
How much longer are we going to keep trotting out that we need to wait another week to see what happens?

Wait another week

Wait another week

I’ve waited enough weeks!

There’s no empty shelves, there’s no bodies piling up, the streets aren’t full of Zombies.

I’m moving on to the next big thing.

Bring it on.
Why do you keep coming back to this thread then?

I mean this as a genuine question and not as an antagonistic remark.
I’ve got no idea either.

He doesn’t add anything to the thread and just trots out the same old “there’s nothing to worry about, it’s just like a cold / flu”

But he keeps coming back ?

Again and again.

Gregmitchell

1,745 posts

118 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAeJbpJo93c#action...

Spray trucks in Wuhan, pretty interesting what they're doing. Didn't realise Wuhan is 4 times the size of London?

nffcforever

793 posts

192 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Exige77 said:
I’ve got no idea either.

He doesn’t add anything to the thread and just trots out the same old “there’s nothing to worry about, it’s just like a cold / flu”

But he keeps coming back ?

Again and again.
Yeah there’s a few

jshell

11,032 posts

206 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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loafer123 said:
Oil price collapse?

Over $20/bbl is a collapse for screening marginal projects!

Maxf

8,409 posts

242 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Gregmitchell said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAeJbpJo93c#action...

Spray trucks in Wuhan, pretty interesting what they're doing. Didn't realise Wuhan is 4 times the size of London?
I really can’t see that being anything other than a bit of propaganda - it’s not like it’s a fungus or something.
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