Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

[philv]

Gregmitchell said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAeJbpJo93c#action...

Spray trucks in Wuhan, pretty interesting what they're doing. Didn't realise Wuhan is 4 times the size of London?

We won't do that as it is just prolonging the inevitable apparrantly.

Our government really should send them an email to tell them this.

Edited by philv on Friday 21st February 14:10

[Gecko1978]

Iran, Lebanon and South Korea...are these countries geared up to deal with an outbreak of a contagious illness. Will the size of the nation, how close people live together or how they are controlled by the state make a difference.

[grassomaniac]

The figures are strange at the moment, no more cases in the UK, Japan increasing albeit very slowly, Singapore only 1 new case, however huge spikes in South Korea and Iran.

[UpBeats]

uk are just going silent i think, this illness is everywhere, but we are only finding out about it when it makes someone seriously ill. Even then it will most likely be put down to flu. I cannot see the uk doctors routinely testing for it everytime someone has a bit of flu

[Gregmitchell]

UpBeats said:

uk are just going silent i think, this illness is everywhere, but we are only finding out about it when it makes someone seriously ill. Even then it will most likely be put down to flu. I cannot see the uk doctors routinely testing for it everytime someone has a bit of flu

Who goes to the doctors with Flu? It's the pneumonia that will get you.

[emperorburger]

Gregmitchell said:

UpBeats said:

uk are just going silent i think, this illness is everywhere, but we are only finding out about it when it makes someone seriously ill. Even then it will most likely be put down to flu. I cannot see the uk doctors routinely testing for it everytime someone has a bit of flu

Who goes to the doctors with Flu? It's the pneumonia that will get you.

Hopefully Doctors will continue to see positive results when treating patients suffering from Covid-19 induced Pneumonia with Chloroquine phosphate.

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bst/advpub/0/...

Multiple pharmaceutical companies are ramping up production of Chloroquine phosphate in order to meet demand.

https://www.shine.cn/biz/economy/2002202403/

[hutchst]

Gregmitchell said:

Did you fall and hit your head? Read about the economic fall out from this, then the people who have died, then the spread in Asia that is getting worse.

- Predicted drop in passenger numbers because of outbreak will cost industry $29.3bn

- losses in China’s domestic market will hit $12.8bn

- Car sales in China down 92%

- Apple profit warning

- Drug production at risk

etc etc,

please now leave the grown ups to talk.

Grownups? Where?

[Exige77]

UpBeats said:

uk are just going silent i think, this illness is everywhere, but we are only finding out about it when it makes someone seriously ill. Even then it will most likely be put down to flu. I cannot see the uk doctors routinely testing for it everytime someone has a bit of flu

We’ll have to wait for George Clooney to catch it then it will be in all the papers.

[otolith]

emperorburger said:

Hopefully Doctors will continue to see positive results when treating patients suffering from Covid-19 induced Pneumonia with Chloroquine phosphate.

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bst/advpub/0/...

Multiple pharmaceutical companies are ramping up production of Chloroquine phosphate in order to meet demand.

https://www.shine.cn/biz/economy/2002202403/

That's a bit peculiar. Why the hell would they even try that? Bizarre.

Unless this is an attempt to manipulate prices of a cheap anti-malaria drug.

[emperorburger]

otolith said:

emperorburger said:

Hopefully Doctors will continue to see positive results when treating patients suffering from Covid-19 induced Pneumonia with Chloroquine phosphate.

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bst/advpub/0/...

Multiple pharmaceutical companies are ramping up production of Chloroquine phosphate in order to meet demand.

https://www.shine.cn/biz/economy/2002202403/

That's a bit peculiar. Why the hell would they even try that? Bizarre.

Unless this is an attempt to manipulate prices of a cheap anti-malaria drug.

Extract from the paper below

Chloroquine is used to prevent and treat malaria and is efficacious as an anti-inflammatory agent for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis and lupus
erythematosus. Studies revealed that it also has potential broad-spectrum antiviral activities by increasing endosomal pH required for virus/cell fusion, as well as interfering with the glycosylation of cellular receptors of SARS-CoV (6,7). The anti-viral and anti-inflammatory activities of chloroquine may account for its potent efficacy in treating patients with COVID-19 pneumonia.

[otolith]

Interesting!

[plasticpig]

Leithen said:

5549 tested as of 20th Feb. 9 positives.

As of 21 February, a total of 5,885 people have been tested, of which 5,876 were confirmed negative and 9 positive.

[emperorburger]

China will eradicate the coronavirus on its territory by the end of March, the country's ambassador to Moscow has told Russian lawmakers.

"We can win a complete victory over this virus," Zhang Hanhui said at a meeting with Ivan Melnikov, first deputy speaker of Russia's lower house of parliament.

"Outside of Hubei, in other regions, we can win this victory already this month. And in the centre of the epidemic, the disease will be liquidated next month," he said, in remarks published by Russian state news agencies.

"Today, more than 18,000 people have been discharged from hospitals. In many provinces and regions, except the central part, there have been no new infections for more than 10 days. In Hubei, especially in Wuhan, the number of infected people is decreasing," Mr Zhang said,

adding that the virus' mortality rate in Hubei was around 2 per cent, and just 0.55 per cent in the rest of the country.

https://www.ft.com/content/65913f1a-b1e8-366a-8d54...

[grassomaniac]

I'd take that statement with a hugh pinch of salt if it's come from an "official" chinese government source.

[Jim on the hill]

grassomaniac said:

I'd take that statement with a hugh pinch of salt if it's come from an "official" chinese government source.

It's true when it's bad news and when it's good news we can't trust it. This is well known from the thread.

[nffcforever]

New MRC report published today might provide some food for thought for people wondering why there are relatively few cases outside China.

“Summary
Since the start of the COVID-19 epidemic in late 2019, there are now 29 affected regions and countries with over 1000 confirmed cases outside of mainland China. In previous reports, we estimated the likely epidemic size in Wuhan City based on air traffic volumes and the number of detected cases internationally. Here we analysed COVID-19 cases exported from mainland China to different regions and countries, comparing the country-specific rates of detected and confirmed cases per flight volume to estimate the relative sensitivity of surveillance in different countries. Although travel restrictions from Wuhan City and other cities across China may have reduced the absolute number of travellers to and from China, we estimated that about two thirds of COVID-19 cases exported from mainland China have remained undetected worldwide, potentially resulting in multiple chains of as yet undetected human-to-human transmission outside mainland China.”


https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/...

Edited by nffcforever on Friday 21st February 16:24

[anonymous-user]

It does seem optimistic - it means having no positive tests from mid March. Just a couple or three weeks from now...

[grassomaniac]

Oh I'm in the It's getting blown out of proportion group and aren't worried. I just don't trust a word the Chinese authorities are telling us.

[RTB]

grassomaniac said:

I'd take that statement with a hugh pinch of salt if it's come from an "official" chinese government source.

At least they've put a marker in the sand. We've got something to measure by in the relatively near future.

It's almost certainly them just making reassuring noises to lessen the economic fallout in the short to medium term though.

I wonder how many of the infected (known and unknown) are still infectious? Are there more becoming negative than becoming infected?

Still looks like a st show.

[anonymous-user]

First case reported in Lebanon

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1631166/middle-east