Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?
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Vanden Saab said:
magpie215 said:
That is prepping... Jeez.. If Mrs VS ever had that few in the house she would be in full on panic mode...
People should read “State of Fear” by Michael Crichton.
My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
I assume as part of the intense testing they're going to do some of it it will be based on the info below, I am expecting a spike tomorrow.....
If you have returned from these specific areas since February 19, you should call NHS111 and stay indoors and avoid contact with other people even if you do not have symptoms:
Iran
Specific lockdown areas in Northern Italy as designated by the Government of Italy
Special care zones in South Korea as designated by the Government of the Republic of South Korea
Hubei province (returned in the past 14 days)
If you have returned from these specific areas since February 19, you should call NHS111 and stay indoors and avoid contact with other people even if you do not have symptoms:
Iran
Specific lockdown areas in Northern Italy as designated by the Government of Italy
Special care zones in South Korea as designated by the Government of the Republic of South Korea
Hubei province (returned in the past 14 days)
ABZ RS6 said:
Interested to see when the first case pops up in Scotland give the 6 Nations fixture in Rome last weekend. Vast majority of Italian rugby supporters hail from the north of the country.
My boss went to that but he lives in Liverpool. I briefly met him this morning and then this afternoon he casually mentions on Wattsapp that he's on the phone to NHS Direct to find out if he needs to self isolate. Nothing from him since so I assume not.Sn1ckers said:
People should read “State of Fear” by Michael Crichton.
My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
Safe and secure..My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
Sn1ckers said:
People should read “State of Fear” by Michael Crichton.
My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
For the Flu virus your wife would be entitled to the flu jab.My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
p1stonhead said:
Could this possibly be SO mild that it doesn’t even come up as positive in tests for most people? But they can still spread it?
The evidence suggests the test is not particularly reliable,.
Jim on the hill said:
Sn1ckers said:
People should read “State of Fear” by Michael Crichton.
My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
For the Flu virus your wife would be entitled to the flu jab.My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
Jim on the hill said:
For the Flu virus your wife would be entitled to the flu jab.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
In a good year the flu jab is about 20% effective and not really worth it. As far as how deadly, yes the coronavirus is worse than the flu but at about 1 to 2% fatality rates and those are primarily in people with pre existing conditions does it really warrant the hysteria we are seeing around the world?
red_slr said:
jacobingonzo said:
some might think this is the real reason the WHO are reluctant to declare a pandemic? cant have all those private investors losing their money on these bonds that have made them squillions since 2017!!
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02415-9
Wow so July 2020 all of a sudden it will be a pandemic!https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02415-9
Sn1ckers said:
Jim on the hill said:
For the Flu virus your wife would be entitled to the flu jab.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
In a good year the flu jab is about 20% effective and not really worth it. As far as how deadly, yes the coronavirus is worse than the flu but at about 1 to 2% fatality rates and those are primarily in people with pre existing conditions does it really warrant the hysteria we are seeing around the world?
We have MS in the family also unfortunately, the flu jab does seem beneficial as it's the flu strains expected to be seen each year.
I'd like to think the hysteria is to protect the old and the ones most at risk but who knows.
Sn1ckers said:
Jim on the hill said:
For the Flu virus your wife would be entitled to the flu jab.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
In a good year the flu jab is about 20% effective and not really worth it. As far as how deadly, yes the coronavirus is worse than the flu but at about 1 to 2% fatality rates and those are primarily in people with pre existing conditions does it really warrant the hysteria we are seeing around the world?
Shall I not bother in future then a?
Sn1ckers said:
In a good year the flu jab is about 20% effective and not really worth it. As far as how deadly, yes the coronavirus is worse than the flu but at about 1 to 2% fatality rates and those are primarily in people with pre existing conditions does it really warrant the hysteria we are seeing around the world?
In China - one of the most densely populated urban groupings of people on the planet - the virus is not universal to the entire population. Let's assume the Communists are telling porkies and the infected number is actually 1,000,0000. 1 MILLION. Not quite likely but let's run with it.
So that's 7% of the their entire population. Of this unlucky 7% - the 'kill-rate' is sub 5%. According to most figures - 80% of people have mild symptoms. So of the small percentage of their population to contract it, a smaller percentage are actually taken quite ill with it. A smaller of this already small percentage die from it.
The upshot is that you'd have to be quite unlucky to be one of the population to catch it. You'd then further need to be unlucky to the degree that you happen to be one of the 1 in 5 people who don't have mild symptoms. You then need to be even more unlucky to be one of those that they simply cannot help and thus doomed to kicking the bucket.
Concern? Yes.
Rabid hysteria and running around in panic like your trousers are on fire? Probably not.
(I say this as someone with a compromised immune system and thus likely to fall into the bucket-kicking category).
Sn1ckers said:
Jim on the hill said:
For the Flu virus your wife would be entitled to the flu jab.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
No jab for Coronavirus and likely at least 20 times more deadly. Worrying these people are giving advice, can't remember the last time a European county put 100,000 people in lockdown.
In a good year the flu jab is about 20% effective and not really worth it. As far as how deadly, yes the coronavirus is worse than the flu but at about 1 to 2% fatality rates and those are primarily in people with pre existing conditions does it really warrant the hysteria we are seeing around the world?
“Across all age groups including children, the flu vaccine prevented 52% of flu cases in 2015-16, 40% of flu cases in 2016-17, 15% of flu cases in 2017-2018 and 44% of flu cases in 2018-19 “
Jimboka said:
Rubbish :-
“Across all age groups including children, the flu vaccine prevented 52% of flu cases in 2015-16, 40% of flu cases in 2016-17, 15% of flu cases in 2017-2018 and 44% of flu cases in 2018-19 “
I got the flu twice in 17/18 so I concur those stats! Honestly the worst illness I’ve ever had! “Across all age groups including children, the flu vaccine prevented 52% of flu cases in 2015-16, 40% of flu cases in 2016-17, 15% of flu cases in 2017-2018 and 44% of flu cases in 2018-19 “
Sn1ckers said:
People should read “State of Fear” by Michael Crichton.
My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
I'm personally not that bothered about the virus it's the impact it as. The lock downs I've got a holiday booked to Tenerife in a few weeks will it still be worth going if it starts to spread their. I don't fancy getting quarantine in a hotel room for 2 weeks and then possibly another 2 weeks at home. My wife has MS. We saw the doctors today and asked about corona virus as her immune system is depressed due to her medication. He told us we should be more concerned about the various flu bugs going round the UK every winter and in either case we should not worried.
I think the media need something else to talk about. A flu bug is, I suspect, likely to be much worse for a reasonably healthy individual than the coronavirus.
The worse thing is if it does take off here and 20% are serious and need medical assistance. Then this will more than likely cripple the NHS. So if you need to go to the hospital for any reason be it the virus or anything else like you crash your car, break a leg, have a heart attack whatever. The service you will receive will be nothing like what you would normally expect.
Just hope you or no one in your family hurt themselves or are ill at the same time.
Harpoon said:
magpie215 said:
Good friends of ours have a son & partner who work in Hong Kong. Apparently there's a major shortage of toilet roll, so they are posting it over from the UK. However, it's liable to get nicked en-route if ID'd so they have to take the cardboard roll out the middle and flatten it, then wrap it in old clothes to hide it!Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff