Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

[MrNoisy]

poo at Paul's said:

Public Health England Medical Director now saying this morning that if you are returning from ANY AFFECTED COUNTRY (not area), you should self isolate for 2 weeks.

Still fancy that bargain holiday to Tenerife?

This is all entirely predictable, and very much now closing the table door, our Govt, the WHO, PHE are fking useless wkers.

Do you have a link to the bit from PHE about any affected country please?

We flew into an unaffected part of Italy last Tuesday, were screened on the way in along with everyone else. Flew back into Stansted last Friday after the Italian thing ‘broke’ expecting the full on Hazmat welcome - nothing.

Edited by MrNoisy on Wednesday 26th February 09:51

[jshell]

seapod said:

I'm due to fly to Tenerife on Friday for a week. Same resort, hotel about 500m from the one in lockdown.

What to do?

1) Don't go. Will lose cost of holiday and appear a total wuss. Unless FCO advise against travel, insurance does not cover 'my choice to skip going'

2) Go, but face potential restrictions while there which will make it a ballache and rather restrictive.

3) Assuming we are fine while there, I have asked my work for advice on what they would want me to do on my return from a (likely to be) infected area. They responded with '2 weeks self isolation, but as we are super busy we really need you in on Monday 9th so it would be better if you didn't go!'

It's a tricky one... I am gebuinely in a quandary.

There are still thousands of Brits flying back and forth to Tenerife every day without a care. But perhaps your average Canary Islands package vacationer is tougher than the typical posho skiing in the Aosta valley at half term.
Or 6 pints of Stella at 6am at Luton Airport is regarded to be an effective countermeasure.

I'd go, but make sure I had a sun facing balcony!

[Gromm]

Some positive news from US, I hope - Cambridge-based Moderna sends possible coronavirus vaccine for testing

[Graveworm]

poo at Paul's said:

Public Health England Medical Director now saying this morning that if you are returning from ANY AFFECTED COUNTRY (not area), you should self isolate for 2 weeks.

Still fancy that bargain holiday to Tenerife?

This is all entirely predictable, and very much now closing the stable door, our Govt, the WHO, PHE are fking useless wkers.

Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 26th February 09:08

Are we an affected country?

[poo at Paul's]

red_slr said:

EddieSteadyGo said:

poo at Paul's said:

Public Health England Medical Director now saying this morning that if you are returning from ANY AFFECTED COUNTRY (not area), you should self isolate for 2 weeks.

Do you have link to the source of this statement please?

Any further on this? Cant find it anywhere?

I only saw it on the ticker, it was running for about 30 mins up to when I posted it. Been replaced now. But seems to have come from an interview with Kay Burley which was due at 7.10am. So keep checking video sites later. I did not see the interview. But what I posted that was on the ticker, WAS on the ticker. It's on rewind so I can still see it, just!

Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 26th February 10:20

[turbobloke]

Gromm said:

Some positive news from US, I hope - Cambridge-based Moderna sends possible coronavirus vaccine for testing

Yes that's some good news. Hopefully the human trials when they take place will show no serious adverse effects while doing exactly what it says on the coronavirus tin. In other hopeful news, free lunches will available from today.

[Abbott]

Gromm said:

Some positive news from US, I hope - Cambridge-based Moderna sends possible coronavirus vaccine for testing

Why is that not being tested to current EU standards? Looks a bit strange to have it sent to US for testing unless that is where the most profit will be generated.

[aeropilot]

I see the EU must not fail political mantra have predictably decided not to do the sensible thing....

BBC said:

Health ministers from France, Germany, Italy and the EU Commission committed to keeping frontiers open at a meeting on Tuesday as new cases of the virus emerged throughout Europe and in central and southern Italy.

[glazbagun]

poo at Paul's said:

How can he say that "for all practical purposes people with no symptoms are unlikely to be transmitting the virus", when the first case of a UK national getting it, he transmitted it to the entire 11 people in his party staying in two different ski chalets when he says he had no symptoms? It's the ONLY P2P example we have in the UK, FFS.
Either Walsh had symptoms and is lying, or this guy's full of ste and can immediately be discredited and ignored.

Or you can't read.

The man you describe is one of 60M inhabitants not displaying symptoms. Therefore it is vanishingly unlikely that someone in the UK with no symptoms will be a carrier.

You have a finite budget, equipment and manpower. You can't test everyone so why waste resources on those not showing symptoms when there's plenty of people coughing their guts up to test.

[CAPP0]

croyde said:

Going to start driving to work. Looks like it'll be cheaper than the train despite the fact my car is a 90s gas guzzling BMW.

Your best bet might be to use a bike.....oh, er, hang on....

(sorry mate! )

[p1stonhead]

I read yesterday a few articles about people being charged because coronavirus tests in the US aren’t free. Any truth in that?

If so, a lot of people could be sick and not getting tested for fear of being charged.

Hadn’t even considered the whole insurance based system angle for this.

[EddieSteadyGo]

poo at Paul's said:

I only saw it on the ticker, it was running for about 30 mins up to when I posted it. Been replaced now. But seems to have come from an interview with Kay Burley which was due at 7.10am. So keep checking video sites later. I did not see the interview. But what I posted that was on the ticker, WAS on the ticker. It's on rewind so I can still see it, just!

If the information you posted was correct, it would be national headline news on every channel. And it isn't.

So when this turns out to be complete bullst, I hope you post an apology and think twice before posting alarmist rubbish in future.

[eybic]

Abbott said:

Gromm said:

Some positive news from US, I hope - Cambridge-based Moderna sends possible coronavirus vaccine for testing

Why is that not being tested to current EU standards? Looks a bit strange to have it sent to US for testing unless that is where the most profit will be generated.

I think the company are based in the US not the EU ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge,_Massachus... )

[Pupp]

Abbott said:

Gromm said:

Some positive news from US, I hope - Cambridge-based Moderna sends possible coronavirus vaccine for testing

Why is that not being tested to current EU standards? Looks a bit strange to have it sent to US for testing unless that is where the most profit will be generated.

Er, because the clever people voted to leave the EU maybe?

[s2art]

Abbott said:

Gromm said:

Some positive news from US, I hope - Cambridge-based Moderna sends possible coronavirus vaccine for testing

Why is that not being tested to current EU standards? Looks a bit strange to have it sent to US for testing unless that is where the most profit will be generated.

Possibly because the EU clinical trials directive has almost killed clinical trials over here.

[RTB]

Abbott said:

Why is that not being tested to current EU standards? Looks a bit strange to have it sent to US for testing unless that is where the most profit will be generated.

Cambridge MA not Cambridge UK.

Moderna have some smart people working for them. We have a couple of modRNAs in development with them in our oncology portfolio.
One thing I will say is that they don't currently have any commercial products actually on the market. It looks promising but I suspect the more traditional vaccine approaches will end up getting the job done and it will be at least next summer before that happens.

[Abbott]

RTB said:

Abbott said:

Why is that not being tested to current EU standards? Looks a bit strange to have it sent to US for testing unless that is where the most profit will be generated.

Cambridge MA not Cambridge UK.

Moderna have some smart people working for them. We have a couple of modRNAs in development with them in our oncology portfolio.
One thing I will say is that they don't currently have any commercial products actually on the market. It looks promising but I suspect the more traditional vaccine approaches will end up getting the job done and it will be at least next summer before that happens.

Ok I stand corrected, I had assumed it was Cambridge UK (although in my defense the only flag taht it is US based is a tiny reference to the Boston Herald.)

Edited by Abbott on Wednesday 26th February 10:40

[beanbag]

Here's a great one for tracking the spread (not sure if it's been shared before), but it provides a brilliant dashboard for tracking the Covid 19 spread:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.htm...

[FourWheelDrift]

MrNoisy said:

Do you have a link to the bit from PHE about any affected country please?

We flew into an unaffected part of Italy last Tuesday, were screened on the way in along with everyone else. Flew back into Stansted last Friday after the Italian thing ‘broke’ expecting the full on Hazmat welcome - nothing.

Edited by MrNoisy on Wednesday 26th February 09:51

You'll be fine it takes at while before you explode, but not too long if you have it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUbplahEBfQ

[abzmike]

MrNoisy said:

Do you have a link to the bit from PHE about any affected country please?

We flew into an unaffected part of Italy last Tuesday, were screened on the way in along with everyone else. Flew back into Stansted last Friday after the Italian thing ‘broke’ expecting the full on Hazmat welcome - nothing.

Edited by MrNoisy on Wednesday 26th February 09:51

Ditto, but I was Milan Wed-Fri last week.
In Croatia today, returning tonight - I wonder if I'll go ping at the passport desk as presumably they will know I've been to Italy...
Are there any checks on people flying back from Milan at UK airports this week?