Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

Coronavirus - Is this the killer flu that will wipe us out?

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Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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nffcforever said:
Ayahuasca said:
New cases in China still going down. Chinese say they believe the outbreak will be under control in April.
I wonder whether the infections are going down.
Does anyone believe the Chinese numbers at all, or any of their statements?

Either way it doesn't matter, we'll find out the reality sooner or later.

emperorburger

1,484 posts

67 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Narcisus said:
anxious_ant said:
First town in lockdown More to follow?

A bit grim looking at map below, almost whole planet infected.

Yup certainty the whole planet ! 5 Whole people in Russia... Population density of 22 people per square mile ...
3 in India! THREE.

fk this stupid scaremongering nonsense.
Quite. A few here get off on it.

isaldiri

18,606 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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philv said:
The death rate as d / (d + r) is heading towards an accurate figure for confirmed cases.
Currently at less than 8%.
Falling every day, as it becomes more accurate as time and numbers increase.
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It is an accurate figure when the outbreak is over. When it's ongoing it tells you.....nothing especially when the numbers concerned have obvious gaps. Graveworm has pointed this out, there are ongoing recoveries that take more time relative to the people who have died so blanket applying that formula is obviously erroneous and results in stupid numbers initially that hopefully no one with any sense takes seriously.

T6 vanman

3,067 posts

100 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I think I've caught coronavirus,

I'm sat here feeling appalling having had the shivers for the last few hours and now a headache and sore throat, My joints and back ache and my nose is running when I'm not coughing,

Mrs T6 is unsympathetic claiming I have ManFlu ….. or as she call's it " A partially mild form of the female snuffles"

She has recommended I self isolate myself ……. Into the kitchen where the washing up needs doing frown

Just posting in case I don't make it through the night thumbup

rival38

487 posts

146 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Norway + 3
France now up to 38
California 33 confirmed and 8k+ needing monitoring.

king arthur

6,572 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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T6 vanman said:
I think I've caught coronavirus,

I'm sat here feeling appalling having had the shivers for the last few hours and now a headache and sore throat, My joints and back ache and my nose is running when I'm not coughing,

Mrs T6 is unsympathetic claiming I have ManFlu ….. or as she call's it " A partially mild form of the female snuffles"

She has recommended I self isolate myself ……. Into the kitchen where the washing up needs doing frown

Just posting in case I don't make it through the night thumbup
Surely there isn't that much washing up to do?

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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So the Hong Kong protests have naturally dissipated since this virus appeared. The government must be pleased..... anyone would think this was orchestrated on purpose?

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2020/02/25/not-done-yet...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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isaldiri said:
philv said:
The death rate as d / (d + r) is heading towards an accurate figure for confirmed cases.
Currently at less than 8%.
Falling every day, as it becomes more accurate as time and numbers increase.
.
It is an accurate figure when the outbreak is over. When it's ongoing it tells you.....nothing especially when the numbers concerned have obvious gaps. Graveworm has pointed this out, there are ongoing recoveries that take more time relative to the people who have died so blanket applying that formula is obviously erroneous and results in stupid numbers initially that hopefully no one with any sense takes seriously.
The case number WHO uses is the more inaccurate method. That’s why its called the naive method and your comments
apply largely to that.

You’ll have to think about it a bit more I’m afraid.

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

222 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Leylandeye said:
Why panic buy fuel for the car when it looks like we're all going to be staying at home soon?

Top up on condoms, paracetamol and a good book is my top tip.
You can’t get condoms or loo roll for love nor money in HK according to a friend.

lampchair

4,404 posts

187 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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One in NI now too, their first

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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WindyCommon said:
Can I try this one a second time?

In the last week both the numbers of reported daily deaths and new cases have been decreasing. Worldwide, the number of newly recovered patients has been greater than the number of newly infected every day since Feb. 19 (ie. for the past week). If sustained this would be a very positive development.



What's the source of that? Thanks...

red_slr

17,266 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Italy cases double in 48 hours.
South Korea have about 10,000 tests pending so may see massive spike (or not) in numbers.

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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lampchair said:
One in NI now too, their first
Flew into Dublin from north Italy so could have spread it in Ireland too?

People need to stop travelling and reduce socialising. Interesting how many hotspots are related to religious areas too. Ffs god ain’t gunna sort this one !

Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 27th February 20:06

anxious_ant

2,626 posts

80 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Extrapolating from graph I posted above should expect numbers to triple, even quadruple by weekend.

Mr Whippy

29,068 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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JonnyJustice said:
So the Hong Kong protests have naturally dissipated since this virus appeared. The government must be pleased..... anyone would think this was orchestrated on purpose?

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2020/02/25/not-done-yet...
Or if not purpose, an opportunity to up-play it to manipulate the population.

Which is why I think their data could be untrustworthy the other way.

“Look it’s under control, the CCP is awesome!”
While it was never really out of control.
Easy win.

isaldiri

18,606 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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V6 Pushfit said:
isaldiri said:
philv said:
The death rate as d / (d + r) is heading towards an accurate figure for confirmed cases.
Currently at less than 8%.
Falling every day, as it becomes more accurate as time and numbers increase.
.
It is an accurate figure when the outbreak is over. When it's ongoing it tells you.....nothing especially when the numbers concerned have obvious gaps. Graveworm has pointed this out, there are ongoing recoveries that take more time relative to the people who have died so blanket applying that formula is obviously erroneous and results in stupid numbers initially that hopefully no one with any sense takes seriously.
The case number WHO uses is the more inaccurate method. That’s why its called the naive method and your comments
apply largely to that.

You’ll have to think about it a bit more I’m afraid.
when are you publishing your scientific paper to get your way of calculation to become the globally accepted standard for estimating the cfr for an ongoing outbreak because you've cracked it and no one else anywhere in the world has any clue or has been doing the wrong thing?

mcelliott

8,676 posts

182 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Ayahuasca said:
anxious_ant said:
First town in lockdown More to follow?

A bit grim looking at map below, almost whole planet infected.

One school shut, one gp surgery shut, and that’s your definition of lockdown?

And that map - one case in Brazil, and the whole country is infected?

Let’s get a grip, folks.
And not one single death in the uk.

m3jappa

6,435 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Exige77 said:
One for the conspiracy theorists smile







i am what i would describe as a low level conspiracy theorist. That is to say i dont believe everything we are told but i dont think the queen is a lizard hehe

However things like above are seriously fking weird! what the hell is that all about?

red_slr

17,266 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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anxious_ant said:
Extrapolating from graph I posted above should expect numbers to triple, even quadruple by weekend.
Its looking like it.

Its been a week since it kicked off properly in Europe and we have around 1000 cases and 20 deaths in a week.

Going off what we have seen in China cases ramp up for 14-21 days. Then if we segregate people we can probably expect anther 14 days of new cases then after 4-5 weeks total things should start to calm down.

So in Europe we have another 4-5 weeks to go before we see case numbers start to fall. My own personal opinion is we might see 10,000+ cases in each country maybe more in Italy and places like Africa and India might be the worst hit.

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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m3jappa said:
i am what i would describe as a low level conspiracy theorist. That is to say i dont believe everything we are told but i dont think the queen is a lizard hehe

However things like above are seriously fking weird! what the hell is that all about?
Can only be a coincidence but very weird !!
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