US presidential election 2020:Winner?

[Byker28i]

So trump last night touted faked jobs figures, whilst trying to link it to George Floyd

“Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that’s happening for our country,” President Trump said, mentioning George Floyd while touting the jobs report. “This is a great day for him. It’s a great day for everybody.”
https://apnews.com/c7a125390466d7b8152e2a7b7fd1ece...

Not quite as low as teargassing your citizens for a photo op but pretty low.


Joe Biden
@JoeBiden

George Floyd’s last words, “I can’t breathe,” have echoed across our nation and around the world.
For the President to try to put any other words in his mouth is frankly despicable.

[Carl_Manchester]

Byker28i said:

Biden leads President Trump among white college-educated women 67% to 28% in new NPR/PBS/Marist poll out today. In 2016 the same poll was 51% Clinton, 44% Trump

the big polls are the primaries, there are some new Biden results today but i don’t have time to go through to swing states just now but i might do if i have time later.

this is the state of Wisconsin, this the maths problem biden faces and to win Biden has to break the primary model entirely, he can do that but the probability is currently around 10%, still in with a shout but it’s a wing and a prayer due to a split voter base competing against a non-split voter base. Biden is more popular than Hilary there but the maths indicates that it’s not enough.

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[CambsBill]

So with Trump building what has immediately become known as BabyGate, doesn't this present Biden with an open goal opportunity to say his first act as President would be to rip it down again and restore access to the two areas of parkland to the people of the USA?

[Byker28i]

Carl_Manchester said:

the big polls are the primaries, there are some new Biden results today but i don’t have time to go through to swing states just now but i might do if i have time later.

Everyone else against Biden is a spent force, Biden now has enough votes to be the candidate.

According to an analysis by Politico’s Jeff Greenfield, recent voting trends combined with Donald Trump’s unpopularity with the electorate will likely see Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) lose his power following the November election.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/06/...

[Countdown]

Byker28i said:

Everyone else against Biden is a spent force, Biden now has enough votes to be the candidate.

According to an analysis by Politico’s Jeff Greenfield, recent voting trends combined with Donald Trump’s unpopularity with the electorate will likely see Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) lose his power following the November election.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/06/...

I think the floating voters might be expressing their unhappiness now but. come November, they'll flock back to the GOP. Admittedly I'm a pessimist. and the 2018 elections did see a noticeable shift towards the Dems but that always happens in the mid-terms and they might be a protest vote. Donald just needs to keep tweeting in caps "2ND AMENDMENT!!!", "IMMIGRANTS!" and so on and the hard of critical thinking will get scared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm3d43HLyTI

[Tom Logan]

Bill said:

Us mods can't do much more than the OP. Your best bet is to start a new thread with a new poll, then link it here and I'll close this one.

Thanks for the reply Bill, I think best left to the OP if he wants to start another thread or continue with this one.

[Byker28i]

Countdown said:

Byker28i said:

Everyone else against Biden is a spent force, Biden now has enough votes to be the candidate.

According to an analysis by Politico’s Jeff Greenfield, recent voting trends combined with Donald Trump’s unpopularity with the electorate will likely see Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) lose his power following the November election.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/06/...

I think the floating voters might be expressing their unhappiness now but. come November, they'll flock back to the GOP. Admittedly I'm a pessimist. and the 2018 elections did see a noticeable shift towards the Dems but that always happens in the mid-terms and they might be a protest vote. Donald just needs to keep tweeting in caps "2ND AMENDMENT!!!", "IMMIGRANTS!" and so on and the hard of critical thinking will get scared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm3d43HLyTI

Comey has to bear a lot of responsibility for pushing the floating voters trumps way in 2016. 10 days before the elction, saying he was reopening the investigation into Clinton,whilst keeping quiet the many investigations into team trump. Almost everyone on his campaign team were charged or convicted - he himself has indictments waiting for campaign finance violations...


and it's an opinion and based on current trends, and I know things can change, but ... (this is from the trump thread)

The electorate (well some of them) believed trumps rhetoric about the US needing an outsider, all the establishment were in a swamp etc. He is after all gifted at speaking to his supporters, a talented grifter.

But after 3.5 years there's nothing to show for it apart from an increased gap between the rich and the poor, a further $5.2tn on the national debt, remember trump promised to eliminate the national debt after 8 years. There's been no investment in infrastructure, which is still dilapidated after McConnell blocked everything Obama wanted to do. On top of that unemployment peaked at 41m, 110,000 dead because he ignored the impact of CV-19, then tried to blame eveeryone else.

trump himself said his two successes were killing a couple of foreign guys that weren't causing any real trouble, then making up stories that 'many, many embassies' were threatened. remember trump did this for the optics leading to an election.
trump has instead spent his time golfing, directing money to his business/pocket, or seeking personal praise.


Yup, sticking up an experienced, safe, committed to the country, almost boring candidate after all that looks like a perfectly good move. It's playing the safe card whilst trump practices scorched earth as he gets more desperate. Bidens not going to win this, trump is going to lose it.

Already there are signs
According to an analysis by Politico’s Jeff Greenfield, recent voting trends combined with Donald Trump’s unpopularity with the electorate will likely see Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) lose his power following the November election.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/06/...

We know many GOP senators aren't standing again rather than face up to trump.

[kowalski655]

Bill said:

Tom Logan said:

kowalski655 said:

It says I can edit the poll, presumably take out everyone apart from Biden and Trump, but I've no idea if the current votes still remain

In that case perhaps it would be helpful to update the poll voting, perhaps the mods could help with this?

Us mods can't do much more than the OP. Your best bet is to start a new thread with a new poll, then link it here and I'll close this one.

Duly done, a new poll with just the 2 now here
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Lets see how it goes, can this one be locked?

[Bill]