Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 9
Discussion
Pastor Of Muppets said:
Cherry's persona exudes a smarminess and distrust that eclipses the current leader by a long way. As we well know personalities are just as important to the electorate as policies, and Cherry most certainly does not have a likeable personality.
Even most of her own party dislike her, and she can't even count on their grudging admiration either as they all think she's a backstabbing greasy-pole climber. The fact that she's been able to elbow her towards front-runner despite having zero track record of achievement (bar an ultimately inconsequential show-trial victory against Boris Johnson) lays bare the dearth of integrity, talent, intellect and personality of the SNP.Looks like the beginning of the end for Sturgeon. The Robertson/Cherry proxy leadership battle (did anyone read Cherry's statement? 
), Marr openly asking her how long she can hang on for, oh and how could we forget a certain sex trial coming up?
As someone above said though, Cherry is even more unlikable. A face for the one you'd never tire of punching thread, smugness personified. She might appeal to the die hards but she isn't going to convert anyone.
Speaking of die hards where are our resident defenders of the faith anyway? All a bit quiet...
), Marr openly asking her how long she can hang on for, oh and how could we forget a certain sex trial coming up?As someone above said though, Cherry is even more unlikable. A face for the one you'd never tire of punching thread, smugness personified. She might appeal to the die hards but she isn't going to convert anyone.
Speaking of die hards where are our resident defenders of the faith anyway? All a bit quiet...
A colleague in work claims his aunt is high up in the SNP, and that this is the week that the bombshell about Sturgeon's marriage and personal life will be dropped.
I have no idea if he is trustworthy enough, but he told me who aunt is by name (I wont repeat), and given who it is it would be easily verified, so I don't know why he'd lie. I'll happy stir the pot though.
I have no idea if he is trustworthy enough, but he told me who aunt is by name (I wont repeat), and given who it is it would be easily verified, so I don't know why he'd lie. I'll happy stir the pot though.
I think we might see Mhairi Black in trouble much sooner than Sturgeon. The brown stuff is hitting the fan over her inviting a drag queen to a primary school in Paisley then calling the parents homophobes when they asked WTF was going on.
The Rev Stu of Bath is not happy, and neither are a lot of the faithful on his Twitter. Talk of the SNP turning into "Wokus Dei" and that some Nats would rather vote Tory than put up with this pish.
https://twitter.com/RevStu
The Rev Stu of Bath is not happy, and neither are a lot of the faithful on his Twitter. Talk of the SNP turning into "Wokus Dei" and that some Nats would rather vote Tory than put up with this pish.
https://twitter.com/RevStu
I read the WoS thing about trans stuff earlier. Seems the SNP is desperate to force us (and children) into a world of self ID. Shame the population doesn't appear to be as woke as Sturgeon and Black would like us to be.
And it seems its the women who don't like it (who'd have thunk it?). And I'd guess women as a voting bloc are slightly more effective than football fans or cider drinkers like the previous targets of s
te and unnecessary legislation.
And it seems its the women who don't like it (who'd have thunk it?). And I'd guess women as a voting bloc are slightly more effective than football fans or cider drinkers like the previous targets of s
te and unnecessary legislation.jsc15 said:
I think we might see Mhairi Black in trouble much sooner than Sturgeon. The brown stuff is hitting the fan over her inviting a drag queen to a primary school in Paisley then calling the parents homophobes when they asked WTF was going on.
More poor judgement by an aggrandised Nationalist MP. Calling homophobia misses the point - drag queens are a form of adult entertainment and the particular one in question introduced herself as 'FlowJob' to the children.The problem was not the LGBT connection - the problem is the failure to consider the 'age and stage' appropriateness of such material as the audience were of primary school age. The same outrage would have been justified if someone had invited Roy Chubby Brown in to do a few gags.
Was Mhairi being deliberately controversial knowing she could hide behind the defence of homophobia or is she just a bit dense? I suspect the latter.
technodup said:
I read the WoS thing about trans stuff earlier. Seems the SNP is desperate to force us (and children) into a world of self ID. Shame the population doesn't appear to be as woke as Sturgeon and Black would like us to be.
And it seems its the women who don't like it (who'd have thunk it?). And I'd guess women as a voting bloc are slightly more effective than football fans or cider drinkers like the previous targets of ste and unnecessary legislation.
Sturgeon and Black clearly haven't learned the lesson of Jessica Yaniv (canadian self-identifying transexual who legally claimed to be female so (s)he could organise topless parties for school-age girls and claim it wasn't a perversion).And it seems its the women who don't like it (who'd have thunk it?). And I'd guess women as a voting bloc are slightly more effective than football fans or cider drinkers like the previous targets of s
te and unnecessary legislation.Edited by Evercross on Monday 24th February 19:08
Evercross said:
Sturgeon and Black clearly haven't learned the lesson of Jessica Yaniv (canadian self-identifying transexual who legally claimed to be female so (s)he could organise topless parties for school-age girls and claim it wasn't a perversion).
That's the one who took a Muslim woman to court for refusing to wax her scrotum wasn't it?Edited by Evercross on Monday 24th February 19:08
The world is going f
king mad.technodup said:
That's the one who took a Muslim woman to court for refusing to wax her scrotum wasn't it?
technodup said:
Marr openly asking her how long she can hang on for.......
That for me was the warning shot across Sturgeon's bows. I alluded to events coinciding with the date Nicola officially claims to have cut-off contact with Alex Salmond last year - those wanting a hint should look for some deleted tweets that can still be found in Google's cache.Bottom line is the media know exactly what the big skeleton is in Nippy's closet but are legally barred from reporting it, and it has nothing to do with Salmond's case being sub-judice - his predicament was just the trigger for her jeopardy. The hints and insinuations are setting her up for when it eventually comes out one way or another and she is exposed as the massive hypocrite that she is, or she is pressured from inside to step down to hold on to her reputation.
It won't be the revelation itself that will damage her.
Edited by Evercross on Monday 24th February 19:45
andy_s said:
Completely inappropriate virtue signalling madness, but I guess it worked for Labour
Except that it didn't work for Labour. TBH though Labour weren't as far down the road as the SNP with the gender self-identification notion at the General Election, but they do seem to now want to be stealing the Nationalists' thunder with this absolute lunacy.Good article (from a transgender woman) about the madness of it (borrowed from the 'Everyone is so offended' thread, but it mentions the SNP so not too far OT).
Debbie Hayton said:
The problem is the very core of transgender ideology that has gripped not only the Labour Party but the Lib Dems (remember Jo Swinson?), Greens and SNP. On Sunday another leading Labour politician, Mayor of London Sadiq Khan, tweeted out to the faithful: “Trans women are women. Trans men are men. Non-binary people are non-binary. All gender identities are valid.”
Inclusivity is a core part of this belief system, and some transgender activists and their acolytes claim that a woman includes everyone who “identifies as a woman”. Yet they never explain what that actually means beyond a right to call oneself a woman. While some may think that transwomen have some secret knowledge of womanhood that is denied to the muggles, the truth is that we don’t. Basing womanhood on feelings opens up the class to any male person who fancies himself as a woman, or desires unfettered access to women. It’s an abusers’ charter.
Would Mhairi Black's head explode when confronted with the above, or would she ignorantly accuse the person making the statement (a trans-woman remember) of homophobia?Inclusivity is a core part of this belief system, and some transgender activists and their acolytes claim that a woman includes everyone who “identifies as a woman”. Yet they never explain what that actually means beyond a right to call oneself a woman. While some may think that transwomen have some secret knowledge of womanhood that is denied to the muggles, the truth is that we don’t. Basing womanhood on feelings opens up the class to any male person who fancies himself as a woman, or desires unfettered access to women. It’s an abusers’ charter.
On a couple of occasions now Black has ignored the concerns of women seeing gender-self ID as open to abuse by predatory men and stuck to her dogma. My only conclusion is that either she isn't intelligent enough to understand the consequences or she doesn't see men pretending to be women for purposes of access to sexual perversion as a problem.
Evercross said:
andy_s said:
Completely inappropriate virtue signalling madness, but I guess it worked for Labour
Except that it didn't work for Labour. 
at the end there.This is just stuff they've leapt upon as they think the zeitgeist is defined on Twitter. This is why they have no answer to the difficult questions and why they depart from the reality of the lived life of the voter. The shame of it is is that it fuels the taking of more extreme pro/anti positions rather than reconciling them to the detriment of the very people they claim to support in some cases.
Edited by andy_s on Tuesday 25th February 09:32
Evercross said:
That for me was the warning shot across Sturgeon's bows. I alluded to events coinciding with the date Nicola officially claims to have cut-off contact with Alex Salmond last year - those wanting a hint should look for some deleted tweets that can still be found in Google's cache.
I'm super intrigued by this, as it sounds quite juicy, but don't have the google-fu to find it 
Wrathalanche said:
I'm super intrigued by this, as it sounds quite juicy, but don't have the google-fu to find it
Guido knows! 
First rule of super-injunctions is that you are not allowed to admit they exist even if they do.
Evercross said:
Guido knows!
First rule of super-injunctions is that you are not allowed to admit they exist even if they do.
Nice link First rule of super-injunctions is that you are not allowed to admit they exist even if they do.
. So why have the SNP delayed their spring conference?, no reasons have been given, maybe we dont need any
.Looks like we have some entertaining times ahead
People who gloat over the demise of others (remember her Jo Swinson gloat) always have their comeuppance,
Sturgeons, when it happens, will have an unparalleled sweetness for so many.
bit off topic- but how do super injunctions actually work?
I mean I’m the editor of ‘newspaper XYZ’- how do I check what I’m allowed and not allowed to write about? There’s obviously not a list of super injunctions to tell me what I’m not allowed to write about. So who tells me that I cannot write a story because a super injunctions is in place?!?
I mean I’m the editor of ‘newspaper XYZ’- how do I check what I’m allowed and not allowed to write about? There’s obviously not a list of super injunctions to tell me what I’m not allowed to write about. So who tells me that I cannot write a story because a super injunctions is in place?!?
ellroy said:
I’ve seen a few people on twitter alluding that there is one, the latter, as regards Ms.S. Whether they know or not is moot to some extent. What’s the difference, or is it just paper hyperbole?
As several have said already, once a super-injunction has been granted then even its existence cannot be reported. However, when the application is made if word of that gets out then questions tend to get asked. Once granted though the record of those questions gets erased... Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff