Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 9
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dailyrecord said:
Nicola Sturgeon has blasted reported UK Government plans to hold on to a key economic lever after the Brexit transition period.
It has been claimed Prime Minister Boris Johnson will not devolve control over ‘state aid’, which allows Governments to subsidise companies.
The First Minister tweeted this morning: “This would be a full scale assault on devolution - a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament in key areas. If the Tories want to further boost support for independence, this is the way to do it.”
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-says-tory-state-22346101It has been claimed Prime Minister Boris Johnson will not devolve control over ‘state aid’, which allows Governments to subsidise companies.
The First Minister tweeted this morning: “This would be a full scale assault on devolution - a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament in key areas. If the Tories want to further boost support for independence, this is the way to do it.”
Please, Boris, keep doing it
amusingduck said:
dailyrecord said:
Nicola Sturgeon has blasted reported UK Government plans to hold on to a key economic lever after the Brexit transition period.
It has been claimed Prime Minister Boris Johnson will not devolve control over ‘state aid’, which allows Governments to subsidise companies.
The First Minister tweeted this morning: “This would be a full scale assault on devolution - a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament in key areas. If the Tories want to further boost support for independence, this is the way to do it.”
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-says-tory-state-22346101It has been claimed Prime Minister Boris Johnson will not devolve control over ‘state aid’, which allows Governments to subsidise companies.
The First Minister tweeted this morning: “This would be a full scale assault on devolution - a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament in key areas. If the Tories want to further boost support for independence, this is the way to do it.”
Please, Boris, keep doing it
Scotland want the power to stay with the EU.
But if the power is devolved from the EU to the UK then it would be "a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament"
Maybe she needs a reminder that you can't erode powers that you don't have.
i4got said:
amusingduck said:
dailyrecord said:
Nicola Sturgeon has blasted reported UK Government plans to hold on to a key economic lever after the Brexit transition period.
It has been claimed Prime Minister Boris Johnson will not devolve control over ‘state aid’, which allows Governments to subsidise companies.
The First Minister tweeted this morning: “This would be a full scale assault on devolution - a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament in key areas. If the Tories want to further boost support for independence, this is the way to do it.”
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-says-tory-state-22346101It has been claimed Prime Minister Boris Johnson will not devolve control over ‘state aid’, which allows Governments to subsidise companies.
The First Minister tweeted this morning: “This would be a full scale assault on devolution - a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament in key areas. If the Tories want to further boost support for independence, this is the way to do it.”
Please, Boris, keep doing it
Scotland want the power to stay with the EU.
But if the power is devolved from the EU to the UK then it would be "a blatant move to erode the powers of the Scottish Parliament"
Maybe she needs a reminder that you can't erode powers that you don't have.
Pastor Of Muppets said:
Roderick Spode said:
I see the nationalist moonhowlers were out at the weekend on the M74 overbridge at Ecclefechan. Apparently the Polis moved them on from the actual border at Gretna
The actions of these fruitloops really are a continued embarrassment, and more to the point a distraction hazard to passing motorists. How empty and vacant must your life be, to want to spend your weekend standing on a motorway bridge, waving flags at passing traffic?
coming up from England, if we had this type of xenophobia coming from any other party or it's supporters there would be
riots. This is without doubt a form of hate crime and should not be tolerated at all, an absolute embarrassment to the majority
of Scots. These type of actions are doing Scotlands reputation serious damage, absolutely shameful.
technodup said:
I see our dear leader has been on one of the Sunday politics programmes raising the hypothetical that she might force English visitors to quarantine. She did point out that making such a political point on a political programme was in no way political though, and she definitely, absolutely wasn't enjoying the thought of it, so that's all right.
She was going full bobble head at the thought of closing the door on they b
d English.
Australia and the US have introduced interstate quarantine. If this was justified in the UK, then why wouldn't we do it too?She was going full bobble head at the thought of closing the door on they b
d English.ant1973 said:
Went to Troon yesterday with the family. Sunny day in July would usually see it v. busy. I would say it was running at 35% of normal yesterday. Most of the shops have remained closed as well. I really, really fear a bloodbath in economic terms and I just don't know why so little attention is being given to this massive looming issue. For the first time in my adult life, I am genuinely fearful about the short - medium term future for us all. And I am normally a cautiously optimistic personality type.
I think you're right. One of my favourite places to eat in Edinburgh has just closed down too.This is why Boris is pushing for economic recovery over the population's health.
Who knows what the correct course of action is.
"The National Records of Scotland data shows an extra 873 fatalities at home between March 16 and June 29 compared to the five-year average over the same period.
Meanwhile, there were 575 fewer cancer deaths than normal in hospitals – at a time when wards were being emptied and admissions severely restricted."
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/lockdown-linked...
I make than an extra 298 Scottish cancer deaths during lockdown. Many more extra deaths to come due to the massive backlog of appointments and reduced capacity due to new procedures.
For example - your GP wants yoyu to get an x-ray for something like a knee problem. Old system - DR gives you a card and you turn up at your local hospital, wait in the waiting room for a while, get x-rayed and job done.
Now with hospital not wanting rooms with patients waiting your GP refers you for an X-ray. You wait for an appt to get sent out. More work and delay. I'm guessing that radiology depts will see less throughput as well since some patients will be no shows and there won't be GP referrals sitting in the waiting room who can get done in that slot.
New normal? How low does the virus need to go before we accept that precautions against one virus are doing more harm than good.
Meanwhile, there were 575 fewer cancer deaths than normal in hospitals – at a time when wards were being emptied and admissions severely restricted."
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/lockdown-linked...
I make than an extra 298 Scottish cancer deaths during lockdown. Many more extra deaths to come due to the massive backlog of appointments and reduced capacity due to new procedures.
For example - your GP wants yoyu to get an x-ray for something like a knee problem. Old system - DR gives you a card and you turn up at your local hospital, wait in the waiting room for a while, get x-rayed and job done.
Now with hospital not wanting rooms with patients waiting your GP refers you for an X-ray. You wait for an appt to get sent out. More work and delay. I'm guessing that radiology depts will see less throughput as well since some patients will be no shows and there won't be GP referrals sitting in the waiting room who can get done in that slot.
New normal? How low does the virus need to go before we accept that precautions against one virus are doing more harm than good.
Edinburger said:
I think you're right. One of my favourite places to eat in Edinburgh has just closed down too.
This is why Boris is pushing for economic recovery over the population's health.
Who knows what the correct course of action is.
Well that's bThis is why Boris is pushing for economic recovery over the population's health.
Who knows what the correct course of action is.
ks. We've just had three months of action to deal with the health issue (and not actually dealt with it that well either). The burning issue now is the economy, how we get it going, how we pay for the spending and how we protect jobs for the future. Because if the unemployment predictions are right the mental health and suicide rates will outweigh Covid deaths soon.It's not an either/or. The correct course of action is to take reasonable precautions but get back to work. It's blindingly f
king obvious.Edinburger said:
ant1973 said:
Went to Troon yesterday with the family. Sunny day in July would usually see it v. busy. I would say it was running at 35% of normal yesterday. Most of the shops have remained closed as well. I really, really fear a bloodbath in economic terms and I just don't know why so little attention is being given to this massive looming issue. For the first time in my adult life, I am genuinely fearful about the short - medium term future for us all. And I am normally a cautiously optimistic personality type.
I think you're right. One of my favourite places to eat in Edinburgh has just closed down too.This is why Boris is pushing for economic recovery over the population's health.
Who knows what the correct course of action is.
technodup said:
Edinburger said:
I think you're right. One of my favourite places to eat in Edinburgh has just closed down too.
This is why Boris is pushing for economic recovery over the population's health.
Who knows what the correct course of action is.
Well that's bThis is why Boris is pushing for economic recovery over the population's health.
Who knows what the correct course of action is.
ks. We've just had three months of action to deal with the health issue (and not actually dealt with it that well either). The burning issue now is the economy, how we get it going, how we pay for the spending and how we protect jobs for the future. Because if the unemployment predictions are right the mental health and suicide rates will outweigh Covid deaths soon.It's not an either/or. The correct course of action is to take reasonable precautions but get back to work. It's blindingly f
king obvious.
technodup said:
Can we maybe try to make sure we're comparing like with like?
I mean who'd have guessed the highly populated midlands has a higher incidence than the vast wasteland that is the highlands of Scotland?
No. I mean who'd have guessed the highly populated midlands has a higher incidence than the vast wasteland that is the highlands of Scotland?
This is how we do it at such low prevalence. 100 cases here. 5 cases there.
You don't hear about 'cases per million' in Victoria.
sambucket said:
technodup said:
Can we maybe try to make sure we're comparing like with like?
I mean who'd have guessed the highly populated midlands has a higher incidence than the vast wasteland that is the highlands of Scotland?
No. I mean who'd have guessed the highly populated midlands has a higher incidence than the vast wasteland that is the highlands of Scotland?
This is how we do it at such low prevalence. 100 cases here. 5 cases there.
You don't hear about 'cases per million' in Victoria.
k then. And as above, if they're testing more than us...Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff