Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 9

[Troubleatmill]

Jasey_ said:

alangla said:

I sense a politically driven “saving” of Christmas (and probably New Year) incoming, regardless of the effect (or not) on the Covid policy. Remember how quickly blended learning in schools was abandoned when NI then England announced they weren’t having it?

More likely to be we've had to cancel Christmas because of those English s coming here for staycations.

If we had UK border controls and fiscal levers this would all be over by 10th December.

And if your Auntie had bks - she would be your uncle.

[Janluke]

hidetheelephants said:

Daytime quiz shows are ste but this one is particularly vomit-inducing.

Tiers of a Clown :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4

[roadtripboy]

I was in Largs today and noticed that Nardinis is open, yet Coia’s Cafe in Glasgow was deemed a restaurant and was closed. Seems a bit inconsistent. Have councils been given any guidance from the nippy one as to classification? Or have they just been left to be the bad guys, with Yes City Council being particularly stringent so they can show the great leader how caring and Scottishy they are?

[biggbn]

Janluke said:

Tiers of a Clown :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4

Oh yes, have some credit for that one!!

[Troubleatmill]

biggbn said:

Janluke said:

Tiers of a Clown :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4

Oh yes, have some credit for that one!!

It does deserve a credit

[alangla]

roadtripboy said:

I was in Largs today and noticed that Nardinis is open, yet Coia’s Cafe in Glasgow was deemed a restaurant and was closed. Seems a bit inconsistent. Have councils been given any guidance from the nippy one as to classification? Or have they just been left to be the bad guys, with Yes City Council being particularly stringent so they can show the great leader how caring and Scottishy they are?

See posts earlier- Glasgow have had at least one interim interdict taken against them & given assurances to a Sheriff that they’ll leave other businesses alone to avoid getting more. Obviously this relies on the businesses in question having deep enough pockets to afford the lawyers & being able to get in front of a Sheriff quickly.
Edit, here’s the story https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-wes...

Edited by alangla on Monday 26th October 05:32

[Edinburger]

biggbn said:

technodup said:

Edinburger said:

Perhaps if more people like you actually adhered to guidance, we wouldn’t be in the situation we’re in now.

What situation? Where a small percentage of bedwetters are running scared of a bit of flu? That only kills pensioners or people already ill? Encouraged by an absolute shambles of an establishment hell bent on ever increasing control now that they've opened a can of worms they have no chance of closing? A can that's going to cost your children a fortune?

Maybe if people could employ a modicum of critical thought... but too many just want to be told what to do and absolve responsibility to someone else.

As an aside I wonder if when AstraZeneca or Glaxo or whoever comes up with the vaccine there will be a 'clap for the capitalists'... but I think I already know the answer to that one. It's all about Nicola and her tartan tiers, wasted millions on Nightingales and chances to get it up Boris. I'm from the government and I'm here to help...

Not a nice 'flu' to have, its effects can be long lasting. I hope you, or anyone close to you, dont have to find out.

"a bit of flu"?

What a plonker.

[Edinburger]

hotchy said:

Jasey_ said:

ABZ RS6 said:

Is there a secret contest between Scotland and Wales as to who can come out with the biggest shower of shyte?

I think Wales are winning the race - but it will get closer when face determines everyone is in Tier 2 next week (except Shetland who will be in Tier 1).

Even if I was in tier 1 I still cannot go back to club basketball. So I get to stay getting fatter and more unhealthy yay. To play outdoors, we have to fill in covid forums, and sanitise all basketballs etc. That's great but it's dark about 5 from monday.. just ranting but I dont see why my team of 10-14 guys cannot get a hall and play. Ok continue to fill in a forum so if anyone gets it we all "isolate" but to blankly refuse really mentally drains me. Iv played 3-4 times a week since I was 12. 20 years later it's really mentally challenging to be told by some cow no. Think I'd rather have been out with an injury than this, stleast you have a recovery date to work towards.

Nicola basically stated it wont ever be normal until a rushed 3 eye making vaccine is out.

I agree with you. Similar challenges with kids football. They can sit next to each other in class and play together in the playground but can't kick a ball together indoors.

Impact on all sports could have long lasting effects.

[Edinburger]

technodup said:

Deathmole said:

She's not going anywhere, check her approval ratings out...

Public approval ratings count for st when your party members turn on you.

Any evidence of that?

[Edinburger]

hotchy said:

biggbn said:

hotchy said:

Deathmole said:

She's not going anywhere, check her approval ratings out...

Actually laugh at these polls. Yes scotland has a we army of SNP diehard bigots. Go on facebook, a poll goes up on Youguv etc and its flooded on the supporters pages to vote for it. The rest of us, the majority have no clue the polls even there. Look at twitter now. 6 months ago if you said "nicola is bad" you would be bombarded with threats of violence. Now every second comment is hating. Make no mistake with these polls, she is losing support.

I still think she has done a better job than Boris and co in her personal appearances and overall handling, I just don't agree with the decisions she has made, if that makes sense? Would not surprise me if her popularity grows. I'm interested in this new independence party, watching with interest how that plays out.

Shes done a better job in respect to pulling the wool over your eyes. Shes on tv saying soundbites and answering pre scripted questions to sound like shes in control. Done better than boris? Well let's see..

Highest death rate per capita in the UK (worse than boris)

Highest death rate per capita in care homes in europe! (Again worse than boris)

2nd highest death rates per capita in Europe (england is 5th, boris is better..ouch)

Kept nike outbreak secret

Refused PPE delivery from army, then killing care home staff and nurses from PPE hub failure (again brushed under carpet and blamed on england soundbites)

Lowest testing rates in europe! (Boris is better again ooooft)

Moved 1500 elderly to care homes with zero testing planting infections into care homes nation wide (hence high death rate again boris done better)

The elderly who got moved was not told until arrival at the care home... wtf

The elderly moved, next of kin not informed. Hence the brushed under carpet court case currently

She then blame carehome staff procedures for introducing the virus to homes... eh?

So in essence what has she done that's better? A better image on her daily political broadcast yes. What she has really done is steal borris' exam paper, put her name on it in neat writing and claim she done better.

I can't be bothered correcting all the errors in your post but - unlike BoJo & Co. - she's not answering pre-scripted questions.

[Edinburger]

biggbn said:

hutchst said:

biggbn said:

Not a nice 'flu' to have, its effects can be long lasting. I hope you, or anyone close to you, dont have to find out.

To be fair bgn, you did disclose a pre-existing body shape condition IIRC.

Can you perhaps explain this post. I had a very mild bout of covid, felt poorly for about four days, isolated for ten, back at work within a fortnight. At no point i have i written a 'woe is me' type post with regards my covid experience. My point was, many are not so lucky. I still have the odd ache,, sweats or slight breathlessness now and again, but got off incredibly lightly compared to others. I put that down the fact that I have trained most days throughout my life, dont smoke, rarely drink, and have a good diet. Dont confuse body shape with fitness brother man . (I jogged a half marathon distance easily at 140kg, and cycled 20 miles most days for a few years at a similar weight, and i doubt many people could have worked out the way i used to in the gym!) All that said, i do wonder what affect this may have had on me had i still been carting around 146kg of bodyweight and lifting huge weights rather than the 112kg or so I have cut down to!

Edited by biggbn on Saturday 24th October 10:02

Edited by biggbn on Saturday 24th October 10:08

Fair play to you!

[Evercross]

Edinburger said:

"a bit of flu"?

What a plonker.

If you've ever had the flu proper you will know that can be very debilitating, but what most people think is the 'flu is usually just a bad cold.

Comparison with CV-19 and strains of influenza is valid though, and Techno was being appropriately flippant because we don't shut down society and put ourselves in the thrall of private companies who have a vested interest in stringing out a scare for as long as possible (leading politicians a merry dance in the process) when the subject matter is 'the flu'.

I'll await your trivial, superfluous and completely lacking in critical thought reply anon.....

Edinburger said:

technodup said:

Deathmole said:

She's not going anywhere, check her approval ratings out...

Public approval ratings count for st when your party members turn on you.

Any evidence of that?

Plenty, but you just do your usual and ignore it.

Edinburger said:

unlike BoJo & Co. - [Sturgeon] is not answering pre-scripted questions.

Any evidence of that?

Edited by Evercross on Monday 26th October 10:03

[Edinburger]

Evercross said:

NoddyonNitrous said:

Is Freeman still a Health Secretary?

Yes, but only so that she can retire with full benefits at the end of this parliamentary term rather than be carted off to jail for manslaughter as she should be.

See also Derek MacKay re. grooming school-age boys.

PS. The most repugnant cover-up ever is in full swing - Police Scotland have been instructed to interview care-home staff to find any evidence whatsoever of staff potentially bringing Covid into their workplace - all in an attempt to build a case to muddy the waters of the proposition that it was Scottish government documentation that led to to the disproportionate number of deaths. Truly despicable, and typical of the 'we can do no wrong, it is always someone else's fault' SNP.

Sickening.

Edited by Evercross on Saturday 24th October 12:54

"Retire with full benefits"? Not exactly.

Have you watched The Trump Show on iPlayer?

[Edinburger]

Evercross said:

amusingduck said:

BlackLabel said:

Looks like we’ve found the perfect candidate to be the next SNP finance secretary......

https://twitter.com/alimacno/status/13198872993967...

Is she saying what I think she's saying? That there is such thing as a Scottish pound, and not only that but the exchange rate has been higher recently than that of the GBP?

....speechless....

Total lies and falsehoods borne of sheer ignorance, but this is the level of understanding of a fair whack of the Nationalist supporting cohort out there.

Edinburger will of course be along shortly to say that it makes perfect sense.......

Why are you bringing me into this?

[Edinburger]

coppernorks said:

irc said:

Perhaps border controls would have stopped Margeret Covid spreading it to England?

Sturgeon getting an easy ride from the media on this one, imagine a Tory MSP doing the same,
Blackford would be in danger of imploding with indignation every day, demanding resignations,
and arrests by Police [ are ste ] Scotland.

Yet when the Welsh suggest border restrictions, no one utters a word...

[Edinburger]

technodup said:

Evercross said:

BoJo, Ardern, Trump etc. are all Premier League and Sturgeon is Championship - one tier down.

Is she baws, she's Vauxhall Conference. Mid table.

And it's not been called that for years, which might be analogous in terms of where her career is going.

Closet Jambo?

[Edinburger]

A.J.M said:

So trick or treating is banned.

But that mob AUOB can have their March in Dundee on the same day.

So kids aren’t allowed to have fun, but the hate filled rentamob get a free pass on it....

Nice to see bobble head is keeping the rules consistent.

Trick or treating is banned? Poor Americans...

What about guising?

[Edinburger]

irc said:

A.J.M said:

So trick or treating is banned.

But that mob AUOB can have their March in Dundee on the same day.

So kids aren’t allowed to have fun, but the hate filled rentamob get a free pass on it....

Nice to see bobble head is keeping the rules consistent.

Yes, the party that plays the Scottish history card in it's politics is cancelling a Scottish tradition going back hundreds of years. No Halloween and a digital christmas.

As Spiked put it

"This is what Covid hysteria now means: the prospect of the first year without a Christmas since the days of Oliver Cromwell. "

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/23/will-scot...

What's the difference between Oliver Cromwell and Niola Sturgeon.? One was a ruthless Puritan leader who trampled over all opposition in the belief that anyone who opposed them was evil, the other was an English general and statesman

In the middle of a pandemic with airborne transmission and infection spread through exposure to virus-containing respiratory droplets which can remain suspended in the air over long distances and time, do you think it's a good idea to have thousands of kids chapping doors on Saturday?

[Edinburger]

irc said:

Good article by Gillian Bowditch in the Sunday Times. "Digital Christmas is right up there with non alcoholic chapagne."

Mentions Edinburgh Univ research which found that a month of telling people to stay home drops the R rate by 3%
Banning mass gatherings or closing schools drops it by 15%

Why? "Lockdown is not working because lots of people will simply not thole it"

The SNP answer? Stricter and more complicated rules which are impossible to police. If people aren't listening it won't matter if you change what you say.

There was an informal cease fire in the trenches in 1914 but we can't see our family because there is a virus that kills the very old? Mostly back in the spring?

To be fair, it's difficult to criticise the Government's strategy when the results are skewed by so many people ignoring the guidance.

[Edinburger]

Evercross said:

Edinburger said:

"a bit of flu"?

What a plonker.

If you've ever had the flu proper you will know that can be very debilitating, but what most people think is the 'flu is usually just a bad cold.

Comparison with CV-19 and strains of influenza is valid though, and Techno was being appropriately flippant because we don't shut down society and put ourselves in the thrall of private companies who have a vested interest in stringing out a scare for as long as possible (leading politicians a merry dance in the process) when the subject matter is 'the flu'.

I'll await your trivial, superfluous and completely lacking in critical thought reply anon.....

Edinburger said:

technodup said:

Deathmole said:

She's not going anywhere, check her approval ratings out...

Public approval ratings count for st when your party members turn on you.

Any evidence of that?

Plenty, but you just do your usual and ignore it.

Edinburger said:

unlike BoJo & Co. - [Sturgeon] is not answering pre-scripted questions.

Any evidence of that?

Edited by Evercross on Monday 26th October 10:03

You don't need evidence - just watch the briefings. BoJo & Co. have the questions and answers in front of him before they're broadcast. To be fair, the invite comeback after they've given the scripted answer. Nicola doesn't know the questions and you can tell by body language and the fact many questions are based on previous questions or content in that briefing. She doesn't seek clarity or further questions.

On the first point, I know Techno was being flippant and there's a relationship between Covid-19 and strains of influenza but the threats of Covid-19 are far, far greater.,