Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 9

[ant1973]

Basically, she is now saying: "if cases are not falling, that is a reason to move you to level 4 and\or not to move you down a level"

Translation: "I want the furlough cash".

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18843120.coron...

[J6542]

The numbers are levelling off because the schools have been off for 2 weeks. It’s schools, hospitals and care homes where the virus spreads the most.
Anyway today’s furlong news has allowed them to bury the total clusterfluck that is Bi-Fab

[hiccy18]

irc said:

hiccy18 said:

hutchst said:

Riiiiiight. One man's government forecast is another man's political pish.

I'm not confirming or denying the veracity of that statement, that's the situation the government claims we're in as written in the statement published regarding the tiers linked in this thread last week.

If you are quoting a published statement a link hrlps.

alangla said:

Anyone want a laugh? Page 5 of this document - https://www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/go... has the qualifying criteria and eventual tier categories for each local authority in Scotland. Have a read & try to figure out why North & South Lanarkshire are tier 3 & Aberdeen & Shire are Tier 2...

page 11 said:

It was also acknowledged that forecast bed occupancy for NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde indicates a potential shortage of overall beds within 6 weeks and ICU beds within 4 weeks.

Whose "political pish" it is is irrelevant, the government is telling us this is the situation we're in.

[Evercross]

J6542 said:

The numbers are levelling off because the schools have been off for 2 weeks.

Hospitality sector was shut down 'co-incidentally' over the two-week period half-term holidays were occurring around Scotland to boost the narrative that socialising was the root cause of the spread.

Expect cases to 'inexpilicably' start to creep up again in the next week or so despite hospitality still being on the naughty step, which will now handily be the perfect excuse to put everyone into tier 4 to release all that lovely furlough cash (yet, keeping schools open to ensure that the numbers don't diminish too quickly).

Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 3rd November 19:14

[alangla]

Training courses before buying fireworks? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54795415

Also, looks like Glasgow Royal Infirmary are doing their bit to help Covid spread by putting CV+ patients in open wards with others https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54748252
In some parts of England up to 25% of hospital “admissions” each day are people who were in hospital for something else & caught it there. Wonder what the figures in various parts of Scotland are? https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/the-ongoing-problem-...

[irc]

ant1973 said:

Basically, she is now saying: "if cases are not falling, that is a reason to move you to level 4 and\or not to move you down a level"

Translation: "I want the furlough cash".

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18843120.coron...

Translation I can now give thousands of workers only a 20% wage cut when I close their workplace.

Though every shutdown increases the chances of businesses going bust.

[Leithen]

Legal travel bans under consideration apparently.

After that it will be supermarket alcohol restrictions followed by full prohibition.

Ever feel like you've fallen asleep and woken up in Cold War USSR?

Need to find that still and start peeling potatoes.

[snowandrocks]

alangla said:

Training courses before buying fireworks? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54795415

Really highlights how out of touch they are with rural Scotland. Some genuine anger about the proposals from friends and family here in Aberdeenshire.

Another nanny state SNP policy aimed at central belt scumbags interfering unnecessarily with the lives of the rest of us.

[stevensdrs]

snowandrocks said:

alangla said:

Training courses before buying fireworks? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54795415

Really highlights how out of touch they are with rural Scotland. Some genuine anger about the proposals from friends and family here in Aberdeenshire.

Another nanny state SNP policy aimed at central belt scumbags interfering unnecessarily with the lives of the rest of us.

I'm sure they would like to ban them completely or bring in a license (tax) to use them.

[ant1973]

Leithen said:

Legal travel bans under consideration apparently.

After that it will be supermarket alcohol restrictions followed by full prohibition.

Ever feel like you've fallen asleep and woken up in Cold War USSR?

Need to find that still and start peeling potatoes.

Yup - look forward to checkpoint Charlie being installed on the roads and manned by the equivalent of Dad's Army.

How are they going to enforce it if you are going to work?

How are they going to force it on public transport. Maybe they should just ban ticket sales from one local authority to the next.

They are completely and utterly mad. Having given them a taste of this sort of micro-management you can be sure there will be years of similar nonsense post pandemic.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18846007.nicol...

[ant1973]

irc said:

ant1973 said:

Basically, she is now saying: "if cases are not falling, that is a reason to move you to level 4 and\or not to move you down a level"

Translation: "I want the furlough cash".

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18843120.coron...

Translation I can now give thousands of workers only a 20% wage cut when I close their workplace.

Though every shutdown increases the chances of businesses going bust.

Quite - and if the employer disappears under the weight of all the other costs which are not being subsidised it will all be an exercise in futility. Great PR, though...

2021 is going to make 2020 look like a walk in the park when we deal with the economic wreckage associated with this nightmare.

[Beato]

ant1973 said:

Leithen said:

Legal travel bans under consideration apparently.

After that it will be supermarket alcohol restrictions followed by full prohibition.

Ever feel like you've fallen asleep and woken up in Cold War USSR?

Need to find that still and start peeling potatoes.

Yup - look forward to checkpoint Charlie being installed on the roads and manned by the equivalent of Dad's Army.

How are they going to enforce it if you are going to work?

How are they going to force it on public transport. Maybe they should just ban ticket sales from one local authority to the next.

They are completely and utterly mad. Having given them a taste of this sort of micro-management you can be sure there will be years of similar nonsense post pandemic.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18846007.nicol...

I am surprised they haven't stopped North Bound traffic on the Queensferry crossing and at Kincardine to stop travel from Tier 3 to Tier 2! or indeed both ways
Be as well go the whole hog and destroy as much of the economy as possible.

[hutchst]

Oh dear. See that on the wall over there Nicola? And there?

That's the writing.

[amusingduck]

[sbarclay62]

snowandrocks said:

alangla said:

Training courses before buying fireworks? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54795415

Really highlights how out of touch they are with rural Scotland. Some genuine anger about the proposals from friends and family here in Aberdeenshire.

Another nanny state SNP policy aimed at central belt scumbags interfering unnecessarily with the lives of the rest of us.

Its a tough-one. Maybe councils should have the ability to ban them locally?

I'm in an Edinburgh council estate and they're a fking nightmare. Getting launched into stairways, shops, thrown at people etc not to mention getting set of at all times of day and night from start of October to mid November.

[ant1973]

hutchst said:

Oh dear. See that on the wall over there Nicola? And there?

That's the writing.

I was pissing myself laughing yesterday at her tweets lecturing the USA about democracy. Honestly, her lack of self awareness is matched only by her self -promotion.

[Evercross]

hutchst said:

Oh dear. See that on the wall over there Nicola? And there?

That's the writing.

Wee Pishtart was on Twitter trying to spin the two vote losses as a Tory plot against the SNP - the Nationalist grasp on democracy really has evaporated.

On another note - SNP party central went on record stating (accurately) that the votes were not binding. That does of course mean that their gerrymandered indyref 2 'mandate' vote is also non-binding......

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 5th November 12:36

[Leithen]

Furlough extended through to end of March.

Brace for Lockdown and incoming prohibition!

[Pastor Of Muppets]

hutchst said:

Oh dear. See that on the wall over there Nicola? And there?

That's the writing.

SNP Health Secretary Jeane Freeman argued the focus should be on dealing with the pandemic, well of course she would
wouldn't she, I mean why on earth would she want the focus to be on her and Sturgeons decision to send positive covid
patients straight into care homes?

[lothianJim]

Leithen said:

Furlough extended through to end of March.

Brace for Lockdown and incoming prohibition!

Does this make lockdown less likely in short term but more likely in the medium term?