Mansion Tax and Raid on Pensions
Discussion
poo at Paul's said:
Boris is falling into the same trap as Cameron, trying to appease and curry favour with non traditional conservative voters.
It will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
Not if the alternative is RLB it won’tIt will end in a disaster at the polls next time imo.
I’m surprised by the suggestion of these taxes but whilst labour is so far to the left, the Tories are still the lesser of 2 evils IMHO
foliedouce said:
Not if the alternative is RLB it won’t
I’m surprised by the suggestion of these taxes but whilst labour is so far to the left, the Tories are still the lesser of 2 evils IMHO
But the Labour Party isn’t stupid, Blair will be in their consulting, and they’ll be much more central next time, having realised that staying militant gets you nowhere but out on your arse. I’m surprised by the suggestion of these taxes but whilst labour is so far to the left, the Tories are still the lesser of 2 evils IMHO
5 years is a long time in politics, and Boris needs to stop f
king it up pdqDepends entirely on how he does it.
If he adds some council tax bands so that people with “very expensive houses” pay more than people with merely “expensive” houses that’s probably fine, but won’t raise much money. If it’s some Corbyn-seque “soak the moderately wealthy”, there will be trouble.
Anyone who messes with pensions is a fool, they’ve been one of the great successes of this country....
If he adds some council tax bands so that people with “very expensive houses” pay more than people with merely “expensive” houses that’s probably fine, but won’t raise much money. If it’s some Corbyn-seque “soak the moderately wealthy”, there will be trouble.
Anyone who messes with pensions is a fool, they’ve been one of the great successes of this country....
Piha said:
After a decade of tory financial mismanagement is it any surprise that the current tory government would introduce money generating measures to fund it's empty promises.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
U ok Hun?Piha said:
After a decade of tory financial mismanagement is it any surprise that the current tory government would introduce money generating measures to fund it's empty promises.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Ahh yes, the torys ruined the economy. The Labour government from 1997-2010 managed the economy so well all was rosy when the torys got in. The country was awash with cash.Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
wisbech said:
Other way round, as 5 years is a long time, best to get all the unpopular stuff out early, and hope that at next election, no longer top of mind
I see your point, but I thinks he’s upsetting the wrong audience. The people, he’s trying to appease have very short memories and will be swayed by the slightest nonsense Thrown towards them at election time. The ones he’s pissing off have long memories. Wilmslowboy said:
mike9009 said:
Why are my taxes paying for people in the North? I think we should leave the North and call it Sexit....
So you claim to live in a country with good music, great football teams and half decent performance in the Olympics. 
Anyone into the higher rates of tax should be afraid. They are going to be financially raped.
He needs to generate billions for all his promises, and cant do that from basic rate tax payers as it will upset the borrowed voters up north. Economic growth won't assist as there isn't going to be any of note.
He needs to generate billions for all his promises, and cant do that from basic rate tax payers as it will upset the borrowed voters up north. Economic growth won't assist as there isn't going to be any of note.
nikaiyo2 said:
Piha said:
After a decade of tory financial mismanagement is it any surprise that the current tory government would introduce money generating measures to fund it's empty promises.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Ahh yes, the torys ruined the economy. The Labour government from 1997-2010 managed the economy so well all was rosy when the torys got in. The country was awash with cash.Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Die hard Remain/Labour voter who thinks everything not Labour/remain is the worst thing to ever happen and that they're all the fault of everyone but Labour/remain
PHuzzy said:
Piha said:
After a decade of tory financial mismanagement is it any surprise that the current tory government would introduce money generating measures to fund it's empty promises.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
U ok Hun?PHuzzy said:
nikaiyo2 said:
Piha said:
After a decade of tory financial mismanagement is it any surprise that the current tory government would introduce money generating measures to fund it's empty promises.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Ahh yes, the torys ruined the economy. The Labour government from 1997-2010 managed the economy so well all was rosy when the torys got in. The country was awash with cash.Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Die hard Remain/Labour voter who thinks everything not Labour/remain is the worst thing to ever happen and that they're all the fault of everyone but Labour/remain
Thankyou4calling said:
There’s not going to be a “Mansion tax”
We all know that.
It gets people all flustered but it’s not going to happen.
Move on.
Correct.We all know that.
It gets people all flustered but it’s not going to happen.
Move on.
This is standard practice. What will happen is there will be some minor increase in tax, but since everyone has been primed for it to be a major increase, people will breath a huge sigh of relief because it was no where near as bad as they had been led to believe.
Tell people you are going to steal all their money, then when you only steal half it of, they thank you for it.
snuffy said:
Correct.
This is standard practice. What will happen is there will be some minor increase in tax, but since everyone has been primed for it to be a major increase, people will breath a huge sigh of relief because it was no where near as bad as they had been led to believe.
Tell people you are going to steal all their money, then when you only steal half it of, they thank you for it.
Because people are stupid.This is standard practice. What will happen is there will be some minor increase in tax, but since everyone has been primed for it to be a major increase, people will breath a huge sigh of relief because it was no where near as bad as they had been led to believe.
Tell people you are going to steal all their money, then when you only steal half it of, they thank you for it.
nikaiyo2 said:
Piha said:
After a decade of tory financial mismanagement is it any surprise that the current tory government would introduce money generating measures to fund it's empty promises.
Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
Ahh yes, the torys ruined the economy. The Labour government from 1997-2010 managed the economy so well all was rosy when the torys got in. The country was awash with cash.Anyone that voted for this shambolic lying government has given them the green light to do whatever they choose.
The only reason boris and the tories got their majority was the borrowed votes by long standing labour members and people leaving labour in droves if in the next 5 years the wealthy continue to grow while those same loaned voters don't feel any benefit they wont vote tory again and we be back with a hung government or worse a labour one.
Boris will have to be seen to make those that leant their vote to them have made a worth while difference in the next 5 years all bets are of if that doesn't happen. So yes the very wealthy will have to pay more in some way or at least look like they are paying more.
Boris will have to be seen to make those that leant their vote to them have made a worth while difference in the next 5 years all bets are of if that doesn't happen. So yes the very wealthy will have to pay more in some way or at least look like they are paying more.
snuffy said:
Correct.
This is standard practice. What will happen is there will be some minor increase in tax, but since everyone has been primed for it to be a major increase, people will breath a huge sigh of relief because it was no where near as bad as they had been led to believe.
Tell people you are going to steal all their money, then when you only steal half it of, they thank you for it.
Exactly. This is standard practice. What will happen is there will be some minor increase in tax, but since everyone has been primed for it to be a major increase, people will breath a huge sigh of relief because it was no where near as bad as they had been led to believe.
Tell people you are going to steal all their money, then when you only steal half it of, they thank you for it.
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