This a*se should be arrested
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And these are the brave fols going to save him
https://www.facebook.com/dave.corben.1/videos/1015...
https://www.facebook.com/dave.corben.1/videos/1015...
Electro1980 said:
How is this any different to all the people who crash “going for a hoon”, run out of ability and go through a hedge?
Mainly because he put himself into an environment he could not control. If you decide not to hoon and pull over the your world is ok. If you go into a sea that is dangerous the environment is a danger not the action.Sorry, I disagree with most who've responded here, yes the guy ended up biting off a bit more than he could chew' but hundreds of people engage in dangerous sports every day. Are they all wrong?
Every week people(including me) ski, surf, sail, kayak, climb mountains and many other 'dangerous' sports, pushing themselves to the limits of their abilities.
I have friends and family in both the life boat service and in mountain rescue. Ask them whether they think people shouldn't participate in these activities, I'm pretty sure they'd be horrified at the suggestion..
Someone successfully rows across the Atlantic in a bathtub, they're hailed as a hero, pushing the limits of man's endeavour, they fail and have to be rescued, do they suddenly become an idiot?
There is always a point where adventurous becomes foolhardy, just not easy to see that point in advance.
Every week people(including me) ski, surf, sail, kayak, climb mountains and many other 'dangerous' sports, pushing themselves to the limits of their abilities.
I have friends and family in both the life boat service and in mountain rescue. Ask them whether they think people shouldn't participate in these activities, I'm pretty sure they'd be horrified at the suggestion..
Someone successfully rows across the Atlantic in a bathtub, they're hailed as a hero, pushing the limits of man's endeavour, they fail and have to be rescued, do they suddenly become an idiot?
There is always a point where adventurous becomes foolhardy, just not easy to see that point in advance.
Desiderata said:
Sorry, I disagree with most who've responded here, yes the guy ended up biting off a bit more than he could chew' but hundreds of people engage in dangerous sports every day. Are they all wrong?
Every week people(including me) ski, surf, sail, kayak, climb mountains and many other 'dangerous' sports, pushing themselves to the limits of their abilities.
I have friends and family in both the life boat service and in mountain rescue. Ask them whether they think people shouldn't participate in these activities, I'm pretty sure they'd be horrified at the suggestion..
Someone successfully rows across the Atlantic in a bathtub, they're hailed as a hero, pushing the limits of man's endeavour, they fail and have to be rescued, do they suddenly become an idiot?
There is always a point where adventurous becomes foolhardy, just not easy to see that point in advance.
Calculated risk us one thing. Every week people(including me) ski, surf, sail, kayak, climb mountains and many other 'dangerous' sports, pushing themselves to the limits of their abilities.
I have friends and family in both the life boat service and in mountain rescue. Ask them whether they think people shouldn't participate in these activities, I'm pretty sure they'd be horrified at the suggestion..
Someone successfully rows across the Atlantic in a bathtub, they're hailed as a hero, pushing the limits of man's endeavour, they fail and have to be rescued, do they suddenly become an idiot?
There is always a point where adventurous becomes foolhardy, just not easy to see that point in advance.
Surfing? Today? He’s an idiot.
Desiderata said:
Sorry, I disagree with most who've responded here, yes the guy ended up biting off a bit more than he could chew' but hundreds of people engage in dangerous sports every day. Are they all wrong?
Every week people(including me) ski, surf, sail, kayak, climb mountains and many other 'dangerous' sports, pushing themselves to the limits of their abilities.
I have friends and family in both the life boat service and in mountain rescue. Ask them whether they think people shouldn't participate in these activities, I'm pretty sure they'd be horrified at the suggestion..
Someone successfully rows across the Atlantic in a bathtub, they're hailed as a hero, pushing the limits of man's endeavour, they fail and have to be rescued, do they suddenly become an idiot?
There is always a point where adventurous becomes foolhardy, just not easy to see that point in advance.
Agree but, surfing can be dangerous in clean surf, throw in a storm and it's actually worse for surfing. Waves generated by wind whipping up the water produce fairly weak waves that are near on impossible to surf. If wind pushes the water over a reef then it can produce a powerful wave. To my knowledge Hastings does not have much of a natural surf.Every week people(including me) ski, surf, sail, kayak, climb mountains and many other 'dangerous' sports, pushing themselves to the limits of their abilities.
I have friends and family in both the life boat service and in mountain rescue. Ask them whether they think people shouldn't participate in these activities, I'm pretty sure they'd be horrified at the suggestion..
Someone successfully rows across the Atlantic in a bathtub, they're hailed as a hero, pushing the limits of man's endeavour, they fail and have to be rescued, do they suddenly become an idiot?
There is always a point where adventurous becomes foolhardy, just not easy to see that point in advance.
This the RNLI launch on twitter were the boat ends up on its side trying to get through the surf?
https://twitter.com/upshot11/status/12265184542677...
https://twitter.com/upshot11/status/12265184542677...
Edited by Zirconia on Sunday 9th February 18:44
To those defending him, a parallel seems to be those people who try and climb Ben Nevis or Snowdonia wearing flip flops and a tee shirt.
I'm sure to some that will be a poor parallel and perhaps it is, I don't surf, but my point is that even if you can't work out how to define it on a piece of paper, it's pretty obvious when someone is taking the piss and putting others safety at risk unnecessarily.
I'm sure to some that will be a poor parallel and perhaps it is, I don't surf, but my point is that even if you can't work out how to define it on a piece of paper, it's pretty obvious when someone is taking the piss and putting others safety at risk unnecessarily.
troika said:
One thing you must never, ever underestimate is the sea. He’s an utter fool. Why the hell he thinks he deserves to put other lives at risk beggars belief. Leave it to Darwinism.
Absolutely what Troika says. I was surfing off North Devon on a sunny warm day, smallish waves 2-4ft everything looked just right. Got caught in a rip, luckily had been speaking with a local sufer the previous day and knew exactly what to do. I am a strong swimmer, completed open water (inc Sea) triathlons and was really shaken by this. First rule of nature, don't f*#k with the sea.Edited by tribalsurfer on Sunday 9th February 19:54
TeamD said:
So everyone has to risk their lives to save him from his own selfish stupidity?
Excuse my ignorance but isn't this what the volunteer RNLI crews sign up and train extensively for, you know, putting out to sea in dangerous conditions to rescue someone in danger and that sort of thing?Andy20vt said:
TeamD said:
So everyone has to risk their lives to save him from his own selfish stupidity?
Excuse my ignorance but isn't this what the volunteer RNLI crews sign up and train extensively for, you know, putting out to sea in dangerous conditions to rescue someone in danger and that sort of thing?You think it's fair for people to go out and take unnecessary, unreasonable and plain stupid risks as you have a right to expect other people to risk their lives to bail you out?
That's some logic lacking of any responsibility.
Edited by Driver101 on Sunday 9th February 22:41
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