Caroline Flack
Discussion
turbobloke said:
La Liga said:
Oakey said:
La Liga said:
PH probably does fall under the definition of 'social media', but I there's social media and there's social media.
Twitter and Instagram are the preference for celebrities because of their format and scale. I imagine if you do something to upset the wonderful public - such as get charged for assaulting your boyfriend - the volume of nasty comments must be unreal.
Bit harder for that to occur on PH as 1) celebrities aren't using it and 2) hundreds of millions of people don't have a PH account.
That's not quite true, we've had a few! They usually have the sense to fTwitter and Instagram are the preference for celebrities because of their format and scale. I imagine if you do something to upset the wonderful public - such as get charged for assaulting your boyfriend - the volume of nasty comments must be unreal.
Bit harder for that to occur on PH as 1) celebrities aren't using it and 2) hundreds of millions of people don't have a PH account.
k off though (although in fairness I' don't think any were ever treated poorly) 
Think they'd avoid this place.
North West Tom said:
However, if someone (tabloids) said bad things about you to literally millions of people - that might affect you seriously. For them to continually hound you in the street with bright camera flashes, wait outside your house knowing full well they want to take your picture to plaster all over the nation's media humiliating you. Yeah that's significantly worse than a few mean tweets.
If someone in the public eye is accused of a serious assault, then the press surely have a right, and indeed a duty, to report that. Being in the public eye is a double edged sword. I doubt she would have objected to the media frenzy that might surround one of her shows winning an award, or any other positive thing that might have happened in the past. TwigtheWonderkid said:
North West Tom said:
However, if someone (tabloids) said bad things about you to literally millions of people - that might affect you seriously. For them to continually hound you in the street with bright camera flashes, wait outside your house knowing full well they want to take your picture to plaster all over the nation's media humiliating you. Yeah that's significantly worse than a few mean tweets.
If someone in the public eye is accused of a serious assault, then the press surely have a right, and indeed a duty, to report that. Being in the public eye is a double edged sword. I doubt she would have objected to the media frenzy that might surround one of her shows winning an award, or any other positive thing that might have happened in the past. 
deadslow said:
She had management, who ought to have been looking out for her. Notice they were straight out of the blocks to blame the CPS.
I wonder if those are the same people playing down this incident a year earlier?https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/25/caroline-flack-slam...
"However reps for Caroline have slammed the ‘ridiculous embellishment of a non-event’."
"‘While an ambulance was called to Caroline’s address at the beginning of November, it was entirely unnecessary and paramedics found her to be in perfect health. They confirmed there was no emergency or reason for any concern,’ the statement read."
"‘It was typical Andrew — he was creating unnecessary drama and made a drunken prank call."
It's beginning to bake my noodle.
Celebs using social media to blame social media for the death of their friend who all earn a living and prolong their celebrity life by using social media.
If they were all so pissed off about social media's roll in the death of a friend they would all have the integrity to delete their social media accounts, now.
The only way ttter, or instathing are going to change is if their profits are threatened.
No celebs on Twitter and joe public doesn't use it to follow celebs.
They hold the power.
Celebs using social media to blame social media for the death of their friend who all earn a living and prolong their celebrity life by using social media.
If they were all so pissed off about social media's roll in the death of a friend they would all have the integrity to delete their social media accounts, now.
The only way t
tter, or instathing are going to change is if their profits are threatened. No celebs on Twitter and joe public doesn't use it to follow celebs.
They hold the power.
turbobloke said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
North West Tom said:
However, if someone (tabloids) said bad things about you to literally millions of people - that might affect you seriously. For them to continually hound you in the street with bright camera flashes, wait outside your house knowing full well they want to take your picture to plaster all over the nation's media humiliating you. Yeah that's significantly worse than a few mean tweets.
If someone in the public eye is accused of a serious assault, then the press surely have a right, and indeed a duty, to report that. Being in the public eye is a double edged sword. I doubt she would have objected to the media frenzy that might surround one of her shows winning an award, or any other positive thing that might have happened in the past. Oakey said:
I agree with this. I know someone who has a sister so desperate for fame (which her mother has been complicit in) that she's been on one of these terrible reality TV shows and was recently in a tabloid with some nonsense story about how her boyfriend has to spend £2500 on her for valentine's day. Imagine being so fame hungry that you think this is something the world would care about.
AAAAAAHHH You have had dealings with dear Diane yourself then ?
She made a mistake in crossing my wife a couple of years ago.
Oakey said:
I wonder if those are the same people playing down this incident a year earlier?
https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/25/caroline-flack-slam...
"However reps for Caroline have slammed the ‘ridiculous embellishment of a non-event’."
"‘While an ambulance was called to Caroline’s address at the beginning of November, it was entirely unnecessary and paramedics found her to be in perfect health. They confirmed there was no emergency or reason for any concern,’ the statement read."
"‘It was typical Andrew — he was creating unnecessary drama and made a drunken prank call."
Call me cynical but they were simply mitigating the potential bad PR of news of one of their clients attempting suicide, which is a sick irony. https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/25/caroline-flack-slam...
"However reps for Caroline have slammed the ‘ridiculous embellishment of a non-event’."
"‘While an ambulance was called to Caroline’s address at the beginning of November, it was entirely unnecessary and paramedics found her to be in perfect health. They confirmed there was no emergency or reason for any concern,’ the statement read."
"‘It was typical Andrew — he was creating unnecessary drama and made a drunken prank call."
PurpleTurtle said:
Very much in agreement here.
It's tragic that she's killed herself, but I take one look at her Instagram account and all it screams is "LOOK AT MY AMAZINGLY GLAMOROUS LIFE!"
In every photo she is on a red carpet, at some premiere, on an amazing holiday, doing the "you've-caught me-laughing-as-if -this-is-au-naturel-but-in-reality-we-took-twenty-versions-of-it-to-get-my-best-angle".
It's all so FAKE. She was front woman of a programme that exists purely to make shallow, vacuous people famous. It promotes the cult of celebrity - young girls wanting to be 'a celebrity' as a career ambition, which has become a thing since the whole advent of 'reality' TV. It totally boils my piss. We live in a society where young people - girls especially - are suffering all sorts of mental health challenges, anxiety, eating disorders, all driven by this idea of what is acceptable, all driven by social media, with people like Caroline Flack front and centre of it. Did she really care about the place she was playing in that whole stupid game? I don't think she did.
I've seen all manner of hand-wringers on my Facebook posting if you can be anything in this world, be kind memes attributed to Ms Flack, which is all a very nice sentiment and all that, but I'm also sat there going "whoa .... how about not basing your entire existence on something so false, and smacking your sleeping boyfriend round the head with a lamp so much that he's had to all the Police allegedly in fear of his life.
Lots of shouts of 'her management/ITV should have protected her'. Really? She was a grown woman of 40 years of age, how about she showed some personal responsibility.
Did she smack the boyfriend about? Seems certain.
Should she have been prosecuted? Yes.
Would it have been the end of the world if found guilty? No.
People do far, far worse things in their lives and get on with them. She would have lost the Love Island gig as obviously a convicted perp of DV as a host isn't great for advertisers, but so what? She could have styled it out. Lay low for a while, reinvent yourself, as many badly-behaved celebrities have done in the past.
Everyone jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the media for hounding her over this really needs to remember that she was a keen and active player in the whole charade.
For balance: I lived with a girlfriend with mental health issues like this for 3 years. Despite her privileged upbringing and outwardly 'nice' life she was constantly jealous of other people, thinking everyone's life was better. It is unremittingly tiring to put up with. I stood by her through a lot of trying times, but the day she jogged on out of my life was a relief for my mental health. I've heard all the BS round this before and bored of it. If you feel the need to go through a boyfirend's phone whilst he is sleeping then he's probably not the bloke for you. Binbag him and find someone else, don't assault him so that you end up in court. Simple, eh?
Almost exactly how I feel about it It's tragic that she's killed herself, but I take one look at her Instagram account and all it screams is "LOOK AT MY AMAZINGLY GLAMOROUS LIFE!"
In every photo she is on a red carpet, at some premiere, on an amazing holiday, doing the "you've-caught me-laughing-as-if -this-is-au-naturel-but-in-reality-we-took-twenty-versions-of-it-to-get-my-best-angle".
It's all so FAKE. She was front woman of a programme that exists purely to make shallow, vacuous people famous. It promotes the cult of celebrity - young girls wanting to be 'a celebrity' as a career ambition, which has become a thing since the whole advent of 'reality' TV. It totally boils my piss. We live in a society where young people - girls especially - are suffering all sorts of mental health challenges, anxiety, eating disorders, all driven by this idea of what is acceptable, all driven by social media, with people like Caroline Flack front and centre of it. Did she really care about the place she was playing in that whole stupid game? I don't think she did.
I've seen all manner of hand-wringers on my Facebook posting if you can be anything in this world, be kind memes attributed to Ms Flack, which is all a very nice sentiment and all that, but I'm also sat there going "whoa .... how about not basing your entire existence on something so false, and smacking your sleeping boyfriend round the head with a lamp so much that he's had to all the Police allegedly in fear of his life.
Lots of shouts of 'her management/ITV should have protected her'. Really? She was a grown woman of 40 years of age, how about she showed some personal responsibility.
Did she smack the boyfriend about? Seems certain.
Should she have been prosecuted? Yes.
Would it have been the end of the world if found guilty? No.
People do far, far worse things in their lives and get on with them. She would have lost the Love Island gig as obviously a convicted perp of DV as a host isn't great for advertisers, but so what? She could have styled it out. Lay low for a while, reinvent yourself, as many badly-behaved celebrities have done in the past.
Everyone jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the media for hounding her over this really needs to remember that she was a keen and active player in the whole charade.
For balance: I lived with a girlfriend with mental health issues like this for 3 years. Despite her privileged upbringing and outwardly 'nice' life she was constantly jealous of other people, thinking everyone's life was better. It is unremittingly tiring to put up with. I stood by her through a lot of trying times, but the day she jogged on out of my life was a relief for my mental health. I've heard all the BS round this before and bored of it. If you feel the need to go through a boyfirend's phone whilst he is sleeping then he's probably not the bloke for you. Binbag him and find someone else, don't assault him so that you end up in court. Simple, eh?
V8covin said:
I can't believe Love Island hasn't been canned now 3 people associated with it have committed suicide.
Why should a bunch of other people lose their job because of her?She assaulted her boyfriend in London, not at work. The link between her death and the show is tenuous at best.
TPSA7514 said:
PurpleTurtle said:
Very much in agreement here.
It's tragic that she's killed herself, but I take one look at her Instagram account and all it screams is "LOOK AT MY AMAZINGLY GLAMOROUS LIFE!"
In every photo she is on a red carpet, at some premiere, on an amazing holiday, doing the "you've-caught me-laughing-as-if -this-is-au-naturel-but-in-reality-we-took-twenty-versions-of-it-to-get-my-best-angle".
It's all so FAKE. She was front woman of a programme that exists purely to make shallow, vacuous people famous. It promotes the cult of celebrity - young girls wanting to be 'a celebrity' as a career ambition, which has become a thing since the whole advent of 'reality' TV. It totally boils my piss. We live in a society where young people - girls especially - are suffering all sorts of mental health challenges, anxiety, eating disorders, all driven by this idea of what is acceptable, all driven by social media, with people like Caroline Flack front and centre of it. Did she really care about the place she was playing in that whole stupid game? I don't think she did.
I've seen all manner of hand-wringers on my Facebook posting if you can be anything in this world, be kind memes attributed to Ms Flack, which is all a very nice sentiment and all that, but I'm also sat there going "whoa .... how about not basing your entire existence on something so false, and smacking your sleeping boyfriend round the head with a lamp so much that he's had to all the Police allegedly in fear of his life.
Lots of shouts of 'her management/ITV should have protected her'. Really? She was a grown woman of 40 years of age, how about she showed some personal responsibility.
Did she smack the boyfriend about? Seems certain.
Should she have been prosecuted? Yes.
Would it have been the end of the world if found guilty? No.
People do far, far worse things in their lives and get on with them. She would have lost the Love Island gig as obviously a convicted perp of DV as a host isn't great for advertisers, but so what? She could have styled it out. Lay low for a while, reinvent yourself, as many badly-behaved celebrities have done in the past.
Everyone jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the media for hounding her over this really needs to remember that she was a keen and active player in the whole charade.
For balance: I lived with a girlfriend with mental health issues like this for 3 years. Despite her privileged upbringing and outwardly 'nice' life she was constantly jealous of other people, thinking everyone's life was better. It is unremittingly tiring to put up with. I stood by her through a lot of trying times, but the day she jogged on out of my life was a relief for my mental health. I've heard all the BS round this before and bored of it. If you feel the need to go through a boyfirend's phone whilst he is sleeping then he's probably not the bloke for you. Binbag him and find someone else, don't assault him so that you end up in court. Simple, eh?
Almost exactly how I feel about it It's tragic that she's killed herself, but I take one look at her Instagram account and all it screams is "LOOK AT MY AMAZINGLY GLAMOROUS LIFE!"
In every photo she is on a red carpet, at some premiere, on an amazing holiday, doing the "you've-caught me-laughing-as-if -this-is-au-naturel-but-in-reality-we-took-twenty-versions-of-it-to-get-my-best-angle".
It's all so FAKE. She was front woman of a programme that exists purely to make shallow, vacuous people famous. It promotes the cult of celebrity - young girls wanting to be 'a celebrity' as a career ambition, which has become a thing since the whole advent of 'reality' TV. It totally boils my piss. We live in a society where young people - girls especially - are suffering all sorts of mental health challenges, anxiety, eating disorders, all driven by this idea of what is acceptable, all driven by social media, with people like Caroline Flack front and centre of it. Did she really care about the place she was playing in that whole stupid game? I don't think she did.
I've seen all manner of hand-wringers on my Facebook posting if you can be anything in this world, be kind memes attributed to Ms Flack, which is all a very nice sentiment and all that, but I'm also sat there going "whoa .... how about not basing your entire existence on something so false, and smacking your sleeping boyfriend round the head with a lamp so much that he's had to all the Police allegedly in fear of his life.
Lots of shouts of 'her management/ITV should have protected her'. Really? She was a grown woman of 40 years of age, how about she showed some personal responsibility.
Did she smack the boyfriend about? Seems certain.
Should she have been prosecuted? Yes.
Would it have been the end of the world if found guilty? No.
People do far, far worse things in their lives and get on with them. She would have lost the Love Island gig as obviously a convicted perp of DV as a host isn't great for advertisers, but so what? She could have styled it out. Lay low for a while, reinvent yourself, as many badly-behaved celebrities have done in the past.
Everyone jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the media for hounding her over this really needs to remember that she was a keen and active player in the whole charade.
For balance: I lived with a girlfriend with mental health issues like this for 3 years. Despite her privileged upbringing and outwardly 'nice' life she was constantly jealous of other people, thinking everyone's life was better. It is unremittingly tiring to put up with. I stood by her through a lot of trying times, but the day she jogged on out of my life was a relief for my mental health. I've heard all the BS round this before and bored of it. If you feel the need to go through a boyfirend's phone whilst he is sleeping then he's probably not the bloke for you. Binbag him and find someone else, don't assault him so that you end up in court. Simple, eh?
Algarve said:
V8covin said:
I can't believe Love Island hasn't been canned now 3 people associated with it have committed suicide.
Why should a bunch of other people lose their job because of her?She assaulted her boyfriend in London, not at work. The link between her death and the show is tenuous at best.
The crew behind the camera will find new jobs.
Cold said:
This sort of comment is nonsense. Try popping in to the domestic violence forums on such sites as Mumsnet or Netmums and suggest that because their partners/husbands have never been found guilty then all of their claims of abuse are unfounded.
Then try and convince yourself that Savile was innocent too. After all, he was never found guilty of anything and died before facing any charges.
" now then , now then, young man (Jimmy Savile type vioce), you should not be bringing me into this, what you have to remember young man". Oooohoo!,"Is I have never been prosecuted or convicted of any offence, ever" never , ever. Only now I am dead and cannot defend myself am I accused" Ooohoo!Then try and convince yourself that Savile was innocent too. After all, he was never found guilty of anything and died before facing any charges.
Edited by kestral on Monday 17th February 16:29
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