Caroline Flack
Discussion
Vandenberg said:
Mojooo said:
I'm not convinced her career would have recovered.
We live in the modern age, she would forever have been held up as an example of a female domestic abuser
Lets not forget a former boyfriend insinuated she had done similar things (maybe not physical but emotional).
Am not so convinced, I reckon she would have been back on primetime telly in no time at all, after a brief stint in prison, she could have paid her showbiz penance by doing a documentary/ campaign about wimmens rights in prison combined with some therapy on self reflection carried out on social media.We live in the modern age, she would forever have been held up as an example of a female domestic abuser
Lets not forget a former boyfriend insinuated she had done similar things (maybe not physical but emotional).
Then back to normal and her past glossed over.
Gecko1978 said:
her career would have likely recovered, examples include, Cheryl as mentioned, Ant Mcpartland (Drink driving crashed into a car with a child inside), Richard Bacon, blue peter career over due to cocaine now works in the US, Johnny Vaughn did time for drug dealing as did Tim Allen, Paris Hilton went to jail (i forget what for). Lots of celebs do bad things and its all forgotten if they are popular.
I'd forgotten about him. I believe that it was actually drug trafficking of a seriously large amount of cocaine. Think he was looking at (or maybe sentenced to) multiple decades of incarceration until he turned State's evidence on the rest of the gang. PurpleTurtle said:
Gecko1978 said:
her career would have likely recovered, examples include, Cheryl as mentioned, Ant Mcpartland (Drink driving crashed into a car with a child inside), Richard Bacon, blue peter career over due to cocaine now works in the US, Johnny Vaughn did time for drug dealing as did Tim Allen, Paris Hilton went to jail (i forget what for). Lots of celebs do bad things and its all forgotten if they are popular.
... add in Gemma Collins, barred from being a Company Director for three years this week for her Ltd Co being liquidated owing over £70K in VAT, at a time where she was making huge drawings from it. Basically stealing from the public purse. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8021...
Yet she goes completely unpunished (that ban will have zero effect) because she claims she "doesn't understand money"
On your telly all the time showing off her "talent"
Edited by PurpleTurtle on Thursday 20th February 15:09
Gecko1978 said:
her career would have likely recovered, examples include, Cheryl as mentioned, Ant Mcpartland (Drink driving crashed into a car with a child inside), Richard Bacon, blue peter career over due to cocaine now works in the US, Johnny Vaughn did time for drug dealing as did Tim Allen, Paris Hilton went to jail (i forget what for). Lots of celebs do bad things and its all forgotten if they are popular.
Denise Welch (coronation street and Loose Women) abused her hubby, although it was couched in terms of fighting each other, he apparently never hit her according to herself:“ Speaking about the violent clashes with her ex, she said: “I’ve whacked him over the head with a lampshade before. And a hair-dryer.
"I once pushed him and he slipped in some milk and put his arm through the door and nearly severed his arm.
“We had some humdingers, we really did, fuelled by excess. Always. They were scrappy and physical, but he’s never hit me in his life.”
AJL308 said:
PurpleTurtle said:
Gecko1978 said:
her career would have likely recovered, examples include, Cheryl as mentioned, Ant Mcpartland (Drink driving crashed into a car with a child inside), Richard Bacon, blue peter career over due to cocaine now works in the US, Johnny Vaughn did time for drug dealing as did Tim Allen, Paris Hilton went to jail (i forget what for). Lots of celebs do bad things and its all forgotten if they are popular.
... add in Gemma Collins, barred from being a Company Director for three years this week for her Ltd Co being liquidated owing over £70K in VAT, at a time where she was making huge drawings from it. Basically stealing from the public purse. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8021...
Yet she goes completely unpunished (that ban will have zero effect) because she claims she "doesn't understand money"
On your telly all the time showing off her "talent"
Edited by PurpleTurtle on Thursday 20th February 15:09
PurpleTurtle said:
... add in Gemma Collins, barred from being a Company Director for three years this week for her Ltd Co being liquidated owing over £70K in VAT, at a time where she was making huge drawings from it. Basically stealing from the public purse.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8021...
Yet she goes completely unpunished (that ban will have zero effect) because she claims she "doesn't understand money"
On your telly all the time showing off her "talent"
Got to be honest I dont understand tax and money either and I'm self employed. That's why I pay an accountant a small fortune every year to sort it for me. On the money she's probably on, theres no excuse.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8021...
Yet she goes completely unpunished (that ban will have zero effect) because she claims she "doesn't understand money"
On your telly all the time showing off her "talent"
Edited by PurpleTurtle on Thursday 20th February 15:09
Cheryl and some of the others committed their crimes before the world of social media. Someone like Flack would be constantly reminded about it (if she were found guilty)
No point comparing her to Ant - he seemed to get a free pass because
a) he is so well liked by the public
b) and difficult for ITV to drop someone that big in their schedule
If this bodycam footage exists and was released then no doubt everything would be 10x worse.
No point comparing her to Ant - he seemed to get a free pass because
a) he is so well liked by the public
b) and difficult for ITV to drop someone that big in their schedule
If this bodycam footage exists and was released then no doubt everything would be 10x worse.
JD66 said:
Got to be honest I dont understand tax and money either and I'm self employed. That's why I pay an accountant a small fortune every year to sort it for me. On the money she's probably on, theres no excuse.
There's no excuse full stop.If you're the director, the buck stops with you.
Sounds like accountant was filing the returns for her (and probably telling her what, when and how to pay). Her part was easy and she failed to do it. Being banned from being a Director is never going to a sufficient enough punishment for someone like her. Probably decided to take HMRC for all she could.
markyb_lcy said:
JD66 said:
Got to be honest I dont understand tax and money either and I'm self employed. That's why I pay an accountant a small fortune every year to sort it for me. On the money she's probably on, theres no excuse.
There's no excuse full stop.If you're the director, the buck stops with you.
Sounds like accountant was filing the returns for her (and probably telling her what, when and how to pay). Her part was easy and she failed to do it. Being banned from being a Director is never going to a sufficient enough punishment for someone like her. Probably decided to take HMRC for all she could.
“ 'By failing to ensure it submitted returns and made payments as required for VAT so that as at liquidation, Boutique had an outstanding liability of at least £71,745.04 in respect of VAT.
'[The] boutique's first return for 08/13, due for submission and payment by 7 October 2013 at the latest, was submitted on 16 March 2015 with a sum due of £5,692. No payment was made in respect of this return.”
Im amazed the HMRC didn’t act sooner with field force TBH
Digga said:
RaymondVanDerDon said:
Melanie Sykes got arrested and cautioned in 2013 for assaulting her then husband and she still gets tv work.
And Father Ted kept his job after kicking Bishop Brennan up the arse.Oh, hang on, I think I'm getting confused between real and imaginary now.
Mojooo said:
Cheryl and some of the others committed their crimes before the world of social media. Someone like Flack would be constantly reminded about it (if she were found guilty)
No point comparing her to Ant - he seemed to get a free pass because
a) he is so well liked by the public
b) and difficult for ITV to drop someone that big in their schedule
If this bodycam footage exists and was released then no doubt everything would be 10x worse.
Agree because a) she wasn't dropped and b) he's part of a duo which makes him doubly valuable and dilutes his offence.No point comparing her to Ant - he seemed to get a free pass because
a) he is so well liked by the public
b) and difficult for ITV to drop someone that big in their schedule
If this bodycam footage exists and was released then no doubt everything would be 10x worse.
markyb_lcy said:
JD66 said:
Got to be honest I dont understand tax and money either and I'm self employed. That's why I pay an accountant a small fortune every year to sort it for me. On the money she's probably on, theres no excuse.
There's no excuse full stop.If you're the director, the buck stops with you.
Have to admit, I'm a director and I don't understand it all. I can be in the right ballpark, but when the accountant starts talking about the percentage asset depreciation in year three I start to lose the will to live.
I wouldn't have paid my VAT either except that I'd figured out enough to register for it, then HMRC eventually sent me a red letter and at that point I went running to an accountant.
768 said:
Have to admit, I'm a director and I don't understand it all.
Are you powerfully built? Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
IAMA director too, FWIW. I pay for some online software and an accountant. The software generates the vat returns, I send the output to the accountant. He verifies it and tells me what to pay, when by and how to pay. I’m on the flat rate scheme which does make it infinitely easier.
Mojooo said:
Cheryl and some of the others committed their crimes before the world of social media. Someone like Flack would be constantly reminded about it (if she were found guilty)
No point comparing her to Ant - he seemed to get a free pass because
a) he is so well liked by the public
b) and difficult for ITV to drop someone that big in their schedule
If this bodycam footage exists and was released then no doubt everything would be 10x worse.
There is no point in comparing them because their crimes were totally different. You need to compare the treatment to other celebrities accused of domestic violence.No point comparing her to Ant - he seemed to get a free pass because
a) he is so well liked by the public
b) and difficult for ITV to drop someone that big in their schedule
If this bodycam footage exists and was released then no doubt everything would be 10x worse.
markyb_lcy said:
768 said:
Have to admit, I'm a director and I don't understand it all.
Are you powerfully built? Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
IAMA director too, FWIW. I pay for some online software and an accountant. The software generates the vat returns, I send the output to the accountant. He verifies it and tells me what to pay, when by and how to pay. I’m on the flat rate scheme which does make it infinitely easier.
The flat rate scheme is another case in point - my accountant told me I'd be better off moving off it. So I did, couldn't tell you what the calculations were to figure that out. I send them a spreadsheet of my expenses at the end of the year and they tell me what adjustments to make in which box numbers on the next VAT return. It's like painting by numbers for me, I don't really know what box 7 is.
People weren't quite so forgiving of Justin Lee Collins were they?
I see there was some bint moaning about a South African pap taking her picture, before then chasing him through the airport videoing him. I mean she's in mourning for goodness sake! Have these people no shame? *please like my insta story where I tell you how tough my life is*
I see there was some bint moaning about a South African pap taking her picture, before then chasing him through the airport videoing him. I mean she's in mourning for goodness sake! Have these people no shame? *please like my insta story where I tell you how tough my life is*
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