Caroline Flack

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Dan_1981

17,402 posts

200 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Half of the posts on this thread demonstrate the very issue at question here.

The posters will of course deny this and mutter something about this not being social media, not knowing who she is, she probably brought it on herself or some equally low rent comment.

Ultimately a human being has been driven to the extreme of taking their own life.

Regardless of your view point on her talents that's a very very sad thing to happen.

mikebradford

2,523 posts

146 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Cold said:
Robertj21a said:
Mental health
Celebrity
Media

.......all contributors, and all need to improve.
You've missed off the very real potential of time in jail from your list.
It is unfortunate that someone gets in a position where suicide is an option.

But without knowing for certain, if she is as bad as the press have made out then she brought on much of her own misery.
She had the potential to live a life many would love to.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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slipstream 1985 said:
It's tv for fking morons.
Yep.

scottydoesntknow

860 posts

58 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Reverse the sexes. Brutal wife beater tops himself before GBH charge. Sympathy level changed?

Wacky Racer

38,178 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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North West Tom said:
Wacky Racer said:
Never heard of her.

Never heard of Love Island either.

Sounds like a pile of st.

RIP though, sad when anyone dies.
Never understood people who brag or think it's cool to not have an interest in popular things.
I just said I've never heard of her or the programme.

I'm sorry she died at such a young age though.


ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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bhstewie said:
Awful but honestly not a surprise.

There are times you see and read about people in the media where your every instinct is that the coverage really isn't doing them any favours.

The media don't learn sadly.
The Media didn't tell her to abuse & assault her boyfriend, also up until her abusing her boyfriend she got good coverage from the media.

It's sad she took her own life but that's not down to the media.

PSB1

3,698 posts

105 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Wacky Racer said:
Never heard of her.

Never heard of Love Island either.

Sounds like a pile of st.

RIP though, sad when anyone dies.
Yeah, but I’d never heard of her well before you’d never heard of her so I’m double hard.

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Very sad, in the same way that it’s very sad when anyone (I’m assuming, yet to be confirmed) takes their own life.


Taylor James

3,111 posts

62 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Dan_1981 said:
Half of the posts on this thread demonstrate the very issue at question here.

The posters will of course deny this and mutter something about this not being social media, not knowing who she is, she probably brought it on herself or some equally low rent comment.

Ultimately a human being has been driven to the extreme of taking their own life.

Regardless of your view point on her talents that's a very very sad thing to happen.
Quite so. Get near it, really near it to begin to understand the anguish someone is suffering to go through with suicide. You look at a rope or drugs and suddenly the solution to your pain is right infront of you. If your support network doesn't live up to their words it's another deep blow.

It can happen to anyone and if you can't see a way out, this becomes the choice.

Such a shame. Like most suicides her last days and hours must been moments of terrible and lonely dispair.

It can be a terrifying swift descent from success and happiness to bleak depression. I hope some people will get a call and be saved over the next few days. It would be one positive thing from a sad story.

Edited by Taylor James on Saturday 15th February 21:43


Edited by Taylor James on Saturday 15th February 21:48

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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The Sun newspaper all over her like a rash in the lead up to her death, I see

Absolutely disgraceful publication

Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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FN2TypeR said:
The Sun newspaper all over her like a rash in the lead up to her death, I see

Absolutely disgraceful publication
It appears they are now deleting those very same articles.

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Cold said:
ukaskew said:
Cold said:
Yep, it wasn't the media who smacked her sleeping boyfriend over the head with a lamp.
This post nicely highlights the problem, she hadn't even stood trial yet but the press absolutely destroyed her (and have now quickly removed the tens of stories published about her in recent months).
Well, don;t be a perpetrator of domestic abuse and you won't criticised for committing domestic abuse.

I can't help but think if the gender roles were reversed this would be a different conversation.
Is it really fair to label her a perpetrator of something before a court has convicted her of it?Trial by media imo. She’s innocent until proven guilty, at least that’s how it’s supposed to work.

Some of the flippant comments on here are quite disgusting yet sadly unsurprising. A significant minority of users on here are evidently horrible human beings.

Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
The Media didn't tell her to abuse & assault her boyfriend, also up until her abusing her boyfriend she got good coverage from the media.

It's sad she took her own life but that's not down to the media.
Media had a significant role. Take one look at the Daily Mail App and the Sun. They crucify anyone in the public eye, and yes I don't think she helped herself but constant barrage of bad stories is going to have an impact on your life.

The Media and Social Media play a huge role in today's society

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Challo said:
ZX10R NIN said:
The Media didn't tell her to abuse & assault her boyfriend, also up until her abusing her boyfriend she got good coverage from the media.

It's sad she took her own life but that's not down to the media.
Media had a significant role. Take one look at the Daily Mail App and the Sun. They crucify anyone in the public eye, and yes I don't think she helped herself but constant barrage of bad stories is going to have an impact on your life.

The Media and Social Media play a huge role in today's society
People kill themselves all the time. Mostly men, men who arn't ‘ hounded’ by the media.

So why is the media automatically blamed here? She is a domestic abuser should papers not report crime now in case the criminal commits suicide? Only time my friends husband was in the paper was because the M1 was shut for a day. He never got to blame anybody else, he had to take responsibility for that one, shame they couldn’t blame Twitter.


She committed suicide nobody else. Her actions why are we washing away personal responsibility
Because she was a celeb? She probably did it to avoid being convicted in court rather than the sun newspaper.

Edited by Pesty on Saturday 15th February 21:57

Budflicker

3,799 posts

185 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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scottydoesntknow said:
Reverse the sexes. Brutal wife beater tops himself before GBH charge. Sympathy level changed?
And that is a very pertinent point.

What if he smashed her in the head with a lamp?
Then topped himself?

Shame she felt suicide was the only option though.

Pity the tosser celebs outpouring their grief on Twitter tonight weren't Round her flat checking she was ok.

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Pesty said:
People kill themselves all the time. Mostly men, men who arn't ‘ hounded’ by the media.
People die all the time. Mostly without being murdered. Does that mean murderers aren’t responsible for their victims’ death?

Your logic is fundamentally flawed.

TPSA7514

741 posts

58 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Pesty said:
People kill themselves all the time. Mostly men, men who arn't ‘ hounded’ by the media.

So why is the media automatically blamed here? She is a domestic abuser should papers not report crime now in case the criminal commits suicide? Only time my friends husband was in the paper was because the M1 was shut for a day. He never got to blame anybody else, he had to take responsibility for that one, shame they couldn’t blame Twitter.
I'm confused by this post. It's non of my business. I hope that you don't mean your friend did something that caused the closure of the motorway by doing something harmful. If so I'm sorry

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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markyb_lcy said:
People die all the time. Mostly without being murdered. Does that mean murderers aren’t responsible for their victims’ death?

Your logic is fundamentally flawed.
Yes that’s exactly the same, I’m sure.

Nothing to do with loss of career through her own actions, or criminal convictions or regret or remorse or mental issues.

Papers just the papers they held a gun to her head, she is absolved of all responsibility. We should never ever report domestic abuse again lest we force somebody to commit suicide.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Challo said:
FN2TypeR said:
The Sun newspaper all over her like a rash in the lead up to her death, I see

Absolutely disgraceful publication
It appears they are now deleting those very same articles.
Lowest of the low

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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TPSA7514 said:
I'm confused by this post. It's non of my business. I hope that you don't mean your friend did something that caused the closure of the motorway by doing something harmful. If so I'm sorry
I’ve not written it very well. Yes he jumped in front of a truck and killed himself.

His children suffered the most. The whole family suffered greatly and still are suffering. There have been and still are issues many years later. Lives taken different turns that they probably wouldn’t have.