Why the Boris and Cummings bbc hate?
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Maybe all the people complaining about paying for the BBC when they don’t watch it should just stop paying for it. You only have to pay for the licence fee if you watch live tv or BBC iPlayer. Loads of people on here who are against it don’t pay the licence fee, you don’t have to.
Cummings’ attacks on the bbc are because he feels they represent the liberal elite and establishment. like Angela Rayners threats to assimilate private schools into the state sector, it’s an ideological dislike but probably not popular enough with the public so it likely won’t amount to much.
Cummings’ attacks on the bbc are because he feels they represent the liberal elite and establishment. like Angela Rayners threats to assimilate private schools into the state sector, it’s an ideological dislike but probably not popular enough with the public so it likely won’t amount to much.
Murph7355 said:
Because we live in a free market and it's a non-essential service.
Look at the list from last night and highlight the "public service" content in there, readily differentiated from content available elsewhere....
Taxpayer's money should be used for essential services that are more efficiently provided centrally. And that should be it. The BBC sits outside both Venn circles
Hey Monday night is a cracking BBC night ! Look at the list from last night and highlight the "public service" content in there, readily differentiated from content available elsewhere....
Taxpayer's money should be used for essential services that are more efficiently provided centrally. And that should be it. The BBC sits outside both Venn circles
Mastermind, Only Connect and University Challenge all back to back are a weekly highlight and one of the few times we all actually sit together and watch live TV.
Then there was the Baddiel holocaust denial piece which was powerful and insightful while concurrently Panorama was doing a piece on how Amazon sucks up and manipulates personal data.
In all honesty I don’t think you could have picked a worse couple of hours to claim limited public service and intellectual value add.
El stovey said:
Maybe all the people complaining about paying for the BBC when they don’t watch it should just stop paying for it. You only have to pay for the licence fee if you watch live tv or BBC iPlayer. Loads of people on here who are against it don’t pay the licence fee, you don’t have to.
Clearly _all_ of the people complaining can't "just stop paying for it", because they want to watch live tv from another provider. And of those that can, they still have to put up with the threatening letters and visits from capita's goons. It's simply not good enough in this day and age.CrutyRammers said:
El stovey said:
Maybe all the people complaining about paying for the BBC when they don’t watch it should just stop paying for it. You only have to pay for the licence fee if you watch live tv or BBC iPlayer. Loads of people on here who are against it don’t pay the licence fee, you don’t have to.
Clearly _all_ of the people complaining can't "just stop paying for it", because they want to watch live tv from another provider. And of those that can, they still have to put up with the threatening letters and visits from capita's goons. It's simply not good enough in this day and age.amusingduck said:
CrutyRammers said:
El stovey said:
Maybe all the people complaining about paying for the BBC when they don’t watch it should just stop paying for it. You only have to pay for the licence fee if you watch live tv or BBC iPlayer. Loads of people on here who are against it don’t pay the licence fee, you don’t have to.
Clearly _all_ of the people complaining can't "just stop paying for it", because they want to watch live tv from another provider. And of those that can, they still have to put up with the threatening letters and visits from capita's goons. It's simply not good enough in this day and age.I realise that there is something of a paradox over the licence fee stuff. However, I like the BBC even though bits of it are annoying, and have done since I was a kid - even in my teens I hated Radio 1 as it churned out bland pap most of the time, so ended up with "The Archers" and Dr. Finlay's exploit in disease ridden Tannochbrae. There was also AFN and Luxembourg, not to mention pirate stations if the weather was right.
I'd far rather fork out for the BBC than be in thrall to Sky, Fox, Virgin et alia - can't imagine any of them doing Newsnight or documentaries like David Baddiel for example. If the BBC annoys some of the ghastly set of twerps in government, then that's fine - expose their hypocrisy. (Take a sniff on me)
I'd far rather fork out for the BBC than be in thrall to Sky, Fox, Virgin et alia - can't imagine any of them doing Newsnight or documentaries like David Baddiel for example. If the BBC annoys some of the ghastly set of twerps in government, then that's fine - expose their hypocrisy. (Take a sniff on me)
Murph7355 said:
Taxpayer's money should be used for essential services that are more efficiently provided centrally. And that should be it. The BBC sits outside both Venn circles
Are you equally annoyed that some of your council tax goes towards the upkeep of things like Libraries, Swimming pools, Theatres, Local Arts etc?You probably pay more towards them than you do the BBC
Its an attempt to dumb down the nation to appeal to the lowest common denominator - the BBC either needs to fall in line and be the UK Fox News or go full commercial and see if they can survive commercially.
The problem is that the thickies that are most in need of "unbiased"* news are the least likely to pay for the BBC and instead will swallow the garbage spewed out by the Mail and Sun, as they've spent most of the last 30 years hearing about how bad the BBC is and how hard done by they are by having to pay £2.50 a week
The problem is that the thickies that are most in need of "unbiased"* news are the least likely to pay for the BBC and instead will swallow the garbage spewed out by the Mail and Sun, as they've spent most of the last 30 years hearing about how bad the BBC is and how hard done by they are by having to pay £2.50 a week
- Right wing sees BBC as lefties, Lefties see the BBC as right wing - that says its doing a decent enough job being unbiased to me
CrutyRammers said:
amusingduck said:
CrutyRammers said:
El stovey said:
Maybe all the people complaining about paying for the BBC when they don’t watch it should just stop paying for it. You only have to pay for the licence fee if you watch live tv or BBC iPlayer. Loads of people on here who are against it don’t pay the licence fee, you don’t have to.
Clearly _all_ of the people complaining can't "just stop paying for it", because they want to watch live tv from another provider. And of those that can, they still have to put up with the threatening letters and visits from capita's goons. It's simply not good enough in this day and age.chrispmartha said:
Murph7355 said:
Taxpayer's money should be used for essential services that are more efficiently provided centrally. And that should be it. The BBC sits outside both Venn circles
Are you equally annoyed that some of your council tax goes towards the upkeep of things like Libraries, Swimming pools, Theatres, Local Arts etc?You probably pay more towards them than you do the BBC
Maybe we should all be able to say what we support and don’t support so when you get your tax letter it should say how much you’ve put toward stuff you approve of and not mention the other bits you don’t.
You might be really into cycling and it could show you how much you’ve helped improve the cycle network. Or maybe you’re into the military and it could show you how many bullets you’ve paid for or what percent of the new carrier you’ve contributed to? Maybe we could be told how much we’ve paid for some cancer treatments. People would be much happier.
The way it is now means that reactionaries find it easy to keep getting outraged at “paying for stuff they don’t use”. Maybe also if we saw how little their own individual tax goes towards paying for these things they’d be less upset? Some of them sound like they’re funding the BBC by themselves. Which is odd as lots seem to be retired.
If you have a look for the historic cost of the license its approx the same as it has always been adjusted for inflation.
Imagine what poor value it was when you had 2 low def channels with a test card on most of the day.
This whole thing is the government trying to get out of paying the over 75s licence fee.
Like a lot of things it should be means tested.
A lot of this stuff can just be deferred and then extracted from the deceased persons estate.
Imagine what poor value it was when you had 2 low def channels with a test card on most of the day.
This whole thing is the government trying to get out of paying the over 75s licence fee.
Like a lot of things it should be means tested.
A lot of this stuff can just be deferred and then extracted from the deceased persons estate.
Andeh1 said:
The right say the BBC is left, the left say the BBC is right.
Exactly this.We have the best broadcast oversight of any nation in OfCom with whom I've had many dealings with over the years who are effective in keeping the output balanced. The BBC 'workforce' may lean one way or the other but in truth, the output is normally very balanced.
To gain appreciation of this, spend some time absorbing the output of Fox or RT.
Bam89 said:
Its an attempt to dumb down the nation to appeal to the lowest common denominator - the BBC either needs to fall in line and be the UK Fox News or go full commercial and see if they can survive commercially.
The problem is that the thickies that are most in need of "unbiased"* news are the least likely to pay for the BBC and instead will swallow the garbage spewed out by the Mail and Sun, as they've spent most of the last 30 years hearing about how bad the BBC is and how hard done by they are by having to pay £2.50 a week
The problem is that the thickies that are most in need of "unbiased"* news are the least likely to pay for the BBC and instead will swallow the garbage spewed out by the Mail and Sun, as they've spent most of the last 30 years hearing about how bad the BBC is and how hard done by they are by having to pay £2.50 a week
- Right wing sees BBC as lefties, Lefties see the BBC as right wing - that says its doing a decent enough job being unbiased to me
All those wanting to see the back of the BBC, and see it funded on a commercial basis will see what you get when you go commercial - Love Island, Masked Singer and the s
te that is trowelled out in ITV. It won't be posh Netflix, it will be full on council telly.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I always though the BBC had a left wing bias, but their coverage of the election was very favourable to the Conservatives. Not only was the PM not held to account for his past record, several "mistakes" were made that positively bailed him out of his various calamities.
I don't think anyone was claiming they were competent lefties. 
chrispmartha said:
CrutyRammers said:
Same as I don't for any other provider of services I don't want.
Yes you do.If you're going to say council tax or national insurance, don't bother, we did that further up.
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