Why the Boris and Cummings bbc hate?

[deadslow]

Fundoreen said:

The 2 show all the signs of seeking revenge for past slights.
Boris due to the BBC being full of people that probably looked down on his buffonery over the years.
Cummings probably also made to feel inferior in the company of the highbrow BBC upper echelons.
Maybe many applications for a job ignored.
It could even be something like revenge for the mess they have made of Doctor Who.
The sort of show you imagine a young cummings being a fan of. Probably made a life size dalek and everything.
Along with Trump they certainly have a pied piper appeal.
Not suggesting their vast amount of followers are a load of rats or anything lol.

shouldn't all this be on the Political Bias at The BBC tory-boy cry-baby thread?

[anonymous-user]

Murph7355 said:

BBC1	BBC2	BBC4
Breakfast	Wanted down under revisited	Beyond 100 days
Animal Park	Flog it	Francescos Mediterranean voyage
Homes under the hammer	Best home cook	New Zealand Earths Mythical islands (repeat)
Wanted down under revisited	This week in parliament	80s with dominic sandbrook
Defenders uk	News	Storyville
Bargain hunt	Victoria Derbyshire	Art of Germany
News	News	Elizabeth 1s child actors
Doctors	Walks of life	Rams principles of good design
Shakespeare and Hathaway	Super cute animals	New Zealand Earths Mythical islands (repeat of earlier)
Escape to the country	Flog it
Farmers country showdown	Osmans house of games
Antiques road trip	Great Asian railway journeys
Pointless	Twinstitute
News	Mastermind
One show	Only connect
Inside out London	University challenge
Eastenders	Confronting holocaust denial
Panorama	Inside no9
Mrs Browns boys	Newsnight
News	Weather
This country	Hospital
Don’t scream	Farmers country showdown
Graham Norton (repeat)	Countryfile (repeat)
Weather	Secrets of the museum
News

World class! And only 5bn quid a year. Bargain. W. T. F. !

[chrispmartha]

fblm said:

Murph7355 said:

BBC1	BBC2	BBC4
Breakfast	Wanted down under revisited	Beyond 100 days
Animal Park	Flog it	Francescos Mediterranean voyage
Homes under the hammer	Best home cook	New Zealand Earths Mythical islands (repeat)
Wanted down under revisited	This week in parliament	80s with dominic sandbrook
Defenders uk	News	Storyville
Bargain hunt	Victoria Derbyshire	Art of Germany
News	News	Elizabeth 1s child actors
Doctors	Walks of life	Rams principles of good design
Shakespeare and Hathaway	Super cute animals	New Zealand Earths Mythical islands (repeat of earlier)
Escape to the country	Flog it
Farmers country showdown	Osmans house of games
Antiques road trip	Great Asian railway journeys
Pointless	Twinstitute
News	Mastermind
One show	Only connect
Inside out London	University challenge
Eastenders	Confronting holocaust denial
Panorama	Inside no9
Mrs Browns boys	Newsnight
News	Weather
This country	Hospital
Don’t scream	Farmers country showdown
Graham Norton (repeat)	Countryfile (repeat)
Weather	Secrets of the museum
News

World class! And only 5bn quid a year. Bargain. W. T. F. !

WTF indeed, you've taken a snapshot of one day from 3 channels, which, by the way has some good programmes on there.

What exactly is your point? is it that yesterday they didn't have any programmes you wanted to watch so the whole of the BBC is pointless?

[TTwiggy]

Mastermind, University Challenge and a doc on Holocaust denial all on one night. I can't see ITV doing that. But I guess if vacuous wannabes having sex on camera is more your thing, you're not going to find much to watch.

[chrispmartha]

TTwiggy said:

Mastermind, University Challenge and a doc on Holocaust denial all on one night. I can't see ITV doing that. But I guess if vacuous wannabes having sex on camera is more your thing, you're not going to find much to watch.

Can you imagine ITV/channel 5 or even channel 4 for that mater showing any of those programmes on BBC 4 on any of their channels?

If anything his list seems to prove that the BBC shows some good content.

[Fundoreen]

Not a bad lineup yesterday and there is also iplayer which has masses of content now .

[anonymous-user]

That's great if you like that kind of thing but you've failed to make the case that everyone else should pay for it. I can see a very good case to have a centrally funded but largely independent, centerist-ish, impartial-ish, news and current affairs offering like the BBC *mostly* produces but a compulsory multibillion pound schedule of dubious ''entertainment'' tacked on? How is that essential? The BBC is bloated by an order of magnitude IMO

[chrispmartha]

fblm said:

That's great if you like that kind of thing but you've failed to make the case that everyone else should pay for it. I can see a very good case to have a centrally funded but largely independent, centerist-ish, impartial-ish, news and current affairs offering like the BBC *mostly* produces but a compulsory multibillion pound schedule of dubious ''entertainment'' tacked on? How is that essential? The BBC is bloated by an order of magnitude IMO

Theres plenty on there that I don't like but I'm happy to pay the small fee for it, I don't think anyone has said it's essential.

The case for everyone paying in for it is that we get a very good National broadcaster that is advert free and without the constraints of ultimately chasing ratings means that we get programmes made on both the TV and the radio that wouldn't usually get made if ratings were the total driving factor. One of the things Britain is known for is it's high quality output within the arts, whether that is Music, TV programmes or Radio and personally I think that is in part to institutions like the BBC that is able to push boundaries and also give a platform to artists, musicians and TV programme makers that wouldn't necessarily get to have that platform and in turn it enriches society as a whole.

Is the BBC perfect, no, of course it isn't but are we better off as a country with it, yes. IMHO of course.

[Pesty]

TTwiggy said:

Mastermind, University Challenge and a doc on Holocaust denial all on one night. I can't see ITV doing that. But I guess if vacuous wannabes having sex on camera is more your thing, you're not going to find much to watch.

Ahh the old Tropes are coming out.

In other words I don’t have a reasonable explanation why I think other people should pay for my entertainment or go to gaol with no choice if they want to watch Australian football on satellite and pay even if they never watch BBC so I’ll just insinuate they are unsophisticated dullards.

[Andeh1]

Put it this is way, remove the BBC and the "middle ground" masses will turn to what remains. The left will go the guardian, independent & huff post... The right will go to The Sun and Daily Mail.

People will then become even more entrenched in their political views & will probably become even more polarised.

Profit driven news HAS to attract people to view the adverts. Bad news, click bait, gotcha journalism, opinion peices etc will grow & flourish to draw in viewers, and THAT ALONE is worthy of the BBC being maintained.

Edited by Andeh1 on Tuesday 18th February 20:57

[A Winner Is You]

chrispmartha said:

CrutyRammers said:

Same as I don't for any other provider of services I don't want.

Yes you do.

I don't go fishing, I don't need to prove to the government that I have no need for a Rod Fishing Licence.

[Piha]

A Winner Is You said:

I don't go fishing, I don't need to prove to the government that I have no need for a Rod Fishing Licence.

A gentleman or woman doesn't require a rod licence if one is fishing in the briny.

[anonymous-user]

If BoJo and DomCum are playing cat and mouse with the Beeb then the best the Beeb can do is keep its journos on the straight and narrow and out of the fight. Last night's Newsnight was an example of a failure to do that with so much pantomime and drama, painting DomCum as some kind of mastermind villain with regards that fella that got sacked off.

[Pesty]

Andeh1 said:

Put it this is way, remove the BBC and the "middle ground" masses will turn to what remains. The left will go the guardian, independent & huff post... The right will go to The Sun and Daily Mail.

People will then become even more entrenched in their political views & will probably become even more polarised.

Profit driven news HAS to attract people to view the adverts. Bad news, click bait, gotcha journalism, opinion peices etc will grow & flourish to draw in viewers, and THAT ALONE is worthy of the BBC being maintained.

Edited by Andeh1 on Tuesday 18th February 20:57

Well at least that’s a new contrived argument for me paying for what you like.

Pay for the bbc because people must not only like what I like, they must also not be allowed their own individual political views.

Nice one comrade. You’ve got me convinced.

Somehow watching only connect prevents civil war I assume.

[Murph7355]

chrispmartha said:

WTF indeed, you've taken a snapshot of one day from 3 channels, which, by the way has some good programmes on there.

What exactly is your point? is it that yesterday they didn't have any programmes you wanted to watch so the whole of the BBC is pointless?

No. I noted it was a one day snapshot.

But I am pretty sure if I did that snapshot every day, apart from maybe Fri-Sun you would see the same pattern repeated (literally. Several times).

I don't think they have more live channels, only streaming ones. And frankly anything even remotely half decent with a following on those is quickly added to the repertoire.

I covered radio....

I am not denying there isn't some stuff that's watchable. They do come up with some decent material. But it ain't three live channels and a dozen radio stations' worth. And all the genuinely good stuff gets sold outside the UK. So to think it wouldn't get made at all if we had no license fee is bogus.

There was a time in the early days of TV where a national broadcaster could possibly have been argued to be necessary. But the world has moved on soooooo far now, that time has gone.

This is not a critical service. Central govt should not be being used to demand money with menaces for it.

Next charter, either drop it back so we get no repeats and ditch the st, or put it out of its misery and let the genuinely good ones within it fend for themselves. They'll do well.

[A Winner Is You]

But just imagine missing out on quality journalism like this

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/122993967966503...

[CrutyRammers]

Andeh1 said:

Put it this is way, remove the BBC and the "middle ground" masses will turn to what remains. The left will go the guardian, independent & huff post... The right will go to The Sun and Daily Mail.

People will then become even more entrenched in their political views & will probably become even more polarised.

Profit driven news HAS to attract people to view the adverts. Bad news, click bait, gotcha journalism, opinion peices etc will grow & flourish to draw in viewers, and THAT ALONE is worthy of the BBC being maintained.

Edited by Andeh1 on Tuesday 18th February 20:57

No, it's an argument for maintaining the news bit of it, which is imo the only bit which can really be argued to be a useful and necessary public service. Leaving aside the arguments of bias in its own output.

[amusingduck]

A Winner Is You said:

But just imagine missing out on quality journalism like this

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/122993967966503...

Thanks for sharing, it's good to get my daily preventative dose of anti-polarising BBC early in the morning. I can go about my day safe in the knowledge that the BBC's existence, and my consumption of it, has tethered me to the centre-ground for another day

[biggles330d]

In the era of Brexit Britain, where we're supposed to be re-establishing our national pride and standing in the world, there's a fabulous irony that perhaps one of the few truly internally respected UK institutions - the BBC - held high around the world for its standards, authority, balance, neutrality and trust is becoming one of the first that Boris/Cummings wants to tear down and replace with who knows what foreign owned, commercially driven fragmented alternative sold off to the highest bidder.

Yep, really proud to be part of this brave new world. We've flogged off to the highest bidder over the last 30 years or so, so many of the things in which we can be proud of, what is there left for us to build this apparently great new nation on?

Trim it a bit, fair enough. Who needs asian network, Radio 3, Radio 1 and some of the sport coverage other than for the most significant stuff but almost every day I use the BBC News Website, listen to R2, 4 and 6 music, BBC1, BBC2 and BBC4. I can't bear the ste that gets pumped out on most commercial channels, the rubbish adverts. Leave the films to netflix and sport to Sky and flog off BBC 5 live and its interminable football chat. If you want that, pay for it.

[A Winner Is You]

amusingduck said:

A Winner Is You said:

But just imagine missing out on quality journalism like this

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/122993967966503...

Thanks for sharing, it's good to get my daily preventative dose of anti-polarising BBC early in the morning. I can go about my day safe in the knowledge that the BBC's existence, and my consumption of it, has tethered me to the centre-ground for another day

Have a bonus one for tomorrow as well

https://twitter.com/bbcthesocial/status/1224664146...