45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 8)
Discussion
Carl_Manchester said:
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The Democrats have not even debated the immigration issue properly this time around, we don’t know where the Democrats stand.
The assumption is that unless Democrat policy is clarified, the Democrats stand for more Mexican immigration where there has already been a disproportionate percentage and that won’t help with swing voters.
At some point the Democrats need to debate where they stand and declare what they are going to do about the issues surrounding what is happening in South America.
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An article comparing the viewsThe Democrats have not even debated the immigration issue properly this time around, we don’t know where the Democrats stand.
The assumption is that unless Democrat policy is clarified, the Democrats stand for more Mexican immigration where there has already been a disproportionate percentage and that won’t help with swing voters.
At some point the Democrats need to debate where they stand and declare what they are going to do about the issues surrounding what is happening in South America.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/20...
BTW Jimbeaux,have you had a chance to consider how the 3 policies I mentioned help the US, regardless of the man?
And I've remembered the 4th..
4. How does having the government pay his hotels $millions for his golfing (& at over the going rate IIRC) help Americans? Especially when he was"too busy to play golf"
anonymous said:
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Mexico has a 1 Trillion dollar gdp.they, the Mexican government, should be stopping all this nonsense at their end, the U.S voter should not even have to make a choice regarding this.
Vilification of the American voter is not what should be happening, it’s the Illegals running the gauntlet with their kids that should be called out as In the wrong, along with the tin ear Mexican government.
Trumps strategy: grab the Mexican government by the balls and their ears will follow. Democrat strategy: missing in action.
anonymous said:
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Trumps administration did do this, it’s what the American voter were forced to vote for and they will, in all probability, vote for it again. The measures, which include the wall and the perceived cruelty of the border runners will remain, trump will campaign on it and he won’t lose votes over it. The message the USA is sending to Mexico is one that should have been sent years ago and Trump has given the American public a voice on the issue .
The democrats need to offer a better solution, it can be voted on, we don’t know what that solution is because it has not been debated properly yet. I am sure the American public will be keen to know what it is.
You won’t see any squirrel on trumps strategy with Mexico, it has been direct and Continual, as per the expectations of his voter base.
kowalski655 said:
An article comparing the views
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/20...
BTW Jimbeaux,have you had a chance to consider how the 3 policies I mentioned help the US, regardless of the man?
And I've remembered the 4th..
4. How does having the government pay his hotels $millions for his golfing (& at over the going rate IIRC) help Americans? Especially when he was"too busy to play golf"
Again, I am concerned with how the nation is doing; the crookedness of politicians regarding their money is old old news. They ALL do it. You track those details to your heart’s extent. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/20...
BTW Jimbeaux,have you had a chance to consider how the 3 policies I mentioned help the US, regardless of the man?
And I've remembered the 4th..
4. How does having the government pay his hotels $millions for his golfing (& at over the going rate IIRC) help Americans? Especially when he was"too busy to play golf"
Carl_Manchester said:
Mexico has a 1 Trillion dollar gdp.
they, the Mexican government, should be stopping all this nonsense at their end, the U.S voter should not even have to make a choice regarding this.
Vilification of the American voter is not what should be happening, it’s the Illegals running the gauntlet with their kids that should be called out as In the wrong, along with the tin ear Mexican government.
Trumps strategy: grab the Mexican government by the balls and their ears will follow. Democrat strategy: missing in action.
That has already begun Carl and it’s working. Illegal border crossings are at an all time low. Once Mexico was threatened with additional tariffs they began almost immediately policing their own side opposed to just passing them through with a wave. they, the Mexican government, should be stopping all this nonsense at their end, the U.S voter should not even have to make a choice regarding this.
Vilification of the American voter is not what should be happening, it’s the Illegals running the gauntlet with their kids that should be called out as In the wrong, along with the tin ear Mexican government.
Trumps strategy: grab the Mexican government by the balls and their ears will follow. Democrat strategy: missing in action.
vonuber said:
Quite amusing blaming Mexico given the US meddling in their internal affairs over the years.
Yes, they were complicit. They are doing better now. Took some persuading for them to control who crossed their territory and passed their northern border like they should have done in the first place. Jimbeaux said:
The crookedness of politicians regarding their money is old old news. They ALL do it.
I suppose your view is that we should be grateful that Trump is so transparent about (or too incompetent to conceal) his wrongdoings. 
Trump apologists approve of his behaviour because it makes them feel it's OK to indulge in the same kind of selfishness. 
Blackpuddin said:
I suppose your view is that we should be grateful that Trump is so transparent about (or too incompetent to conceal) his wrongdoings. Trump apologists approve of his behaviour because it makes them feel it's OK to indulge in the same kind of selfishness.
As has been pointed out, I vote for the policies not the person’s personal behavior. Oh and I’m not a Trump apologist, I’m a Trump supporter. Trump apologists approve of his behaviour because it makes them feel it's OK to indulge in the same kind of selfishness. 
Jimbeaux said:
Again, I am concerned with how the nation is doing; the crookedness of politicians regarding their money is old old news. They ALL do it. You track those details to your heart’s extent.
But the millions paid to have Trump golf is NOT his money! You, the American taxpayer,are shovelling $$$ into his company, in direct violation of the emoluments clause.But you say his crookedness is still OK, even in office?
Anyway,that's No.4,how about the other 3?
kowalski655 said:
But the millions paid to have Trump golf is NOT his money! You, the American taxpayer,are shovelling $$$ into his company, in direct violation of the emoluments clause.
But you say his crookedness is still OK, even in office?
Anyway,that's No.4,how about the other 3?
As I said before, if it does not effect the economy, National defense, or international trade deals, I am really not concerned. But you say his crookedness is still OK, even in office?
Anyway,that's No.4,how about the other 3?
Jimbeaux said:
As I said before, if it does not effect the economy, National defense, or international trade deals, I am really not concerned.
So.. you're fine with no proper functioning government, foreigners choosing your politicians, people who aren't you literally dieing for lack of care, and a crook in charge grifting money from you, but as long as you've got yours, f
k 'em!OK, got you now
Blackpuddin said:
Thankfully not everyone is as self-interested as this poster. I wonder if he has children, and if so, whether he has thought about life ahead for them as they try to make their way in his 'up yours, I'm all right Jack' world.
It's a good thing some are "willing to fight as hard for someone they don't know as for yourself"Obligatory link to filthy commie
https://youtu.be/3mu-K6da4Os
Edited by kowalski655 on Sunday 23 February 19:05
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